Joe Biden ruled as too incompetent to face charges

WyattEarp

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I agree with you that neither of us will not have a say either way but I disagree with you on the outcome. The only chance he has is to stall and hope that he can actually win in a general election so he can move on to be the dictator in chief as he aspires to.
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No, but I think there are practical limits to pursuing political candidates especially a former President. If the documents case isn't really moving public opinion, you might say it doesn't matter what public opinion is he broke the law. On the other hand, one can say public opinion is the biggest jury in the world.

I thought Hillary should have been hit with a fine, but Comey did a little dance in 2016 that didn't make either side happy. I would have to say that Biden should have been hit with a fine. Remember they were in junior roles to the President of the United States. They had less authority over how they handled classified documents.

I know people like yourself have continued to look for the "big crime". I'm sorry I don't see it in the documents case. I'm not sure others are going to be persuaded to see it. If Trump wasn't running for office, I wouldn't care what the DOJ did with this case.
Trump installed judge Cannon is stalling the documents case.
Its not that nobody cares, its that everyone sees what is happening and wonders how long until the case hits trial and whether Cannon will be turfed over the issue.

Its not like there isn't a steady stream of court cases to last the year anyways.
 

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Trump installed judge Cannon is stalling the documents case.
Its not that nobody cares, its that everyone sees what is happening and wonders how long until the case hits trial and whether Cannon will be turfed over the issue.

Its not like there isn't a steady stream of court cases to last the year anyways.
Yes, I forgot about the Crooked Cannon factor. That is why Wyatt is over confident Trumpy will beat this case.
 

WyattEarp

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Glad we agree.

On a side note, it seems many Repugs are jumping ship.

Did you watch the entire video and see that more Democrats here leaving the House than Republicans? The commentator says that House members are leaving earlier than ever. That could simply be because the primary season has compressed into an earlier and earlier time frame.

I'm guessing a lot of moderates on both sides are leaving and that's not good in my opinion. There is a contradiction though that many people say they want term limits then they react negatively to news like this.

I will admit it is interesting that Republican Committee Chairs are leaving. However, Democrats aren't currently committee chairs so there's no comparison. If prominent Republican Committee Chairs are leaving because their power and influence has been diminished, Americans generally don't spill tears over the dispersion of power and influence.
 

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Did you watch the entire video and see that more Democrats here leaving the House than Republicans? The commentator says that House members are leaving earlier than ever. That could simply be because the primary season has compressed into an earlier and earlier time frame.

I'm guessing a lot of moderates on both sides are leaving and that's not good in my opinion. There is a contradiction though that many people say they want term limits than they react negatively to news like this.

I will admit it is interesting that Republican Committee Chairs are leaving. However, Democrats aren't currently committee chairs so there's no comparison. If prominent Republican Committee Chairs are leaving because their power and influence has been diminished, Americans generally don't spill tears over the dispersion of power and influence.
It is the moderate Republicans leaving that is concerning thus turning the Republican party into more and more maga asshats.
 

WyattEarp

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It is the moderate Republicans leaving that is concerning thus turning the Republican party into more and more maga asshats.
You do realize there is a Democratic House member running for California Senate on a platform of a $50 minimum wage. I couldn't make this up. In a Democracy, there are plenty of asshats from both political persuasions.

The fact that people hear more about the right wing asshats than left wing asshats is just the way it works. Be on the look out for it and consider it.
 

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A 3rd party is long overdue.
Ask Clucker Tarlson to start the "I love Putin Party" with you. Your slogan can be "A gulag for every family and a bullet for every Dad!"
 
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Joe Biden’s never had main character energy. He’s spent his career plagiarizing from the main characters. The cries for Biden to step down have never been louder and Joe’s up against father time- he can’t improve. The man falls asleep at funerals and shakes hands with ghosts. The coalition’s cracking, but Biden’s the most stubborn man in Washington.
 

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Ask Clucker Tarlson to start the "I love Putin Party" with you. Your slogan can be "A gulag for every family and a bullet for every Dad!"
I thought it was "Better a Russian than a Democrat"? Both, I guess...
 

y2kmark

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You do realize there is a Democratic House member running for California Senate on a platform of a $50 minimum wage. I couldn't make this up. In a Democracy, there are plenty of asshats from both political persuasions.

The fact that people hear more about the right wing asshats than left wing asshats is just the way it works. Be on the look out for it and consider it.
Always the champion (🎶Brave courageous and bold!🎶) of "one side is just as bad as the other". There is bad on both "sides", but an order of magnitude difference, maybe several orders of magnitude...
 
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mandrill

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You do realize there is a Democratic House member running for California Senate on a platform of a $50 minimum wage. I couldn't make this up. In a Democracy, there are plenty of asshats from both political persuasions.

The fact that people hear more about the right wing asshats than left wing asshats is just the way it works. Be on the look out for it and consider it.
Another installment of "Whatabouty".

Yes, there are fringe wackadoodles of all descriptions around. But the GOP is run by them - Gaetz, Marge, Johnson, etc. The Dems are run by the centrist mainstream.
 

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You do realize there is a Democratic House member running for California Senate on a platform of a $50 minimum wage. I couldn't make this up. In a Democracy, there are plenty of asshats from both political persuasions.

The fact that people hear more about the right wing asshats than left wing asshats is just the way it works. Be on the look out for it and consider it.
The reality is Newsom signed off on only $20 minimum wage but sure use the wish of one member to paint all the Dems as asking for a $50 hike. LOL
 

WyattEarp

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Another installment of "Whatabouty".

Yes, there are fringe wackadoodles of all descriptions around. But the GOP is run by them - Gaetz, Marge, Johnson, etc. The Dems are run by the centrist mainstream.
mandrill, thanks again for your expert analysis. Of course, two party politics is a "whatabout" exercise. Every Biden is too old thread triggers a chorus of Trump is too old.

The Biden Administration and the Dems have been strongly pulled to the left by their progressive base. If the Democratic centrists were running things, Trump would not be pulling so strong. I will say that in recent years the Dems have had more party cohesion. I am curious how the anti-Israel crowd is going to behave at the convention.
 

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mandrill, thanks again for your expert analysis. Of course, two party politics is a "whatabout" exercise. Every Biden is too old thread triggers a chorus of Trump is too old.

The Biden Administration and the Dems have been strongly pulled to the left by their progressive base. If the Democratic centrists were running things, Trump would not be pulling so strong. I will say that in recent years the Dems have had more party cohesion. I am curious how the anti-Israel crowd is going to behave at the convention.
I'm wondering if its going to be 1968 all over again.
 
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