Jewish Influence Declining

Pokerdude87

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I dont think it is anti-semitic to point out the obvious that the Israeli lobby is exceptionally powerful, with lots of financial, political and media backing. It is just what it is. This antisemitic accusation is used to guilt trip and distract people from the obvious, so the lobby can operate out in the open, without any resistance or question. I however dont think their power is fading though. They are just as influential as they were earlier.
WOW!! Racist much!! Reread what you just wrote, its shameful and I don‘t even have a dog in the race but even I could smell the reek of racism!
 

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Except when it comes to Jews.
I've heard people issue broad, sweeping statements like "Asians are smart" and can't understand when I point out that that is a racist comment. I understand that it was meant as a compliment, but it is racist none the less.
 
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Frankfooter

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So, only Zionist Jews are rich? LOL.
I have no idea, maybe its just zionists, christian and Jew, want to spend money to bring about armeggedon.
Religious wackos are religious wackos, they are fine as long as they keep their ideas and practices to themselves.
Once they use it to justify apartheid and genocide......

They clearly aren't very popular.

 

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I'll tell you what is racist. It is racist to get your panties in a bunch over someone calling out rich industrialists, bankers and powerful politicians for being in bed with the Israel lobby, that is trying to influence the government to make policy decisions that are beneficial to a foreign state, while at the same time gloating, jeering and actively promoting mass murder of poor and powerless people, by that same state while stealing their land, because they belong to a certain religion.

As I said before, antisemitism today is an overused meaningless word. Jews are neither the most oppressed people in the west, nor is antisemitism the "highest form of racism" as some "good white people" seem to think. Anti-black attitudes, being against BLM, denying systemic racism, Islamophobia, being anti-immigrant - these are bigger and more compelling issues than antisemitism. This is not the 1930s after all.
It is only overused in the minds of antisemites.

and it is the height of racism and antisemitism to suggest that the only reason that people support oppose Hamas and support Israel is because they are in bed with the Israel lobby and thereby deny the possibility that they are making principled decisions based upon their own beliefs.

But keep digging. You are only getting in deeper and demonstrating your own racism and antisemitism.
 

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It is only overused in the minds of antisemites.

and it is the height of racism and antisemitism to suggest that the only reason that people support oppose Hamas and support Israel is because they are in bed with the Israel lobby and thereby deny the possibility that they are making principled decisions based upon their own beliefs.

But keep digging. You are only getting in deeper and demonstrating your own racism and antisemitism.
If that's what they said I'd agree that its racist.

Instead you've got the world protesting against genocide and apartheid.
And there is no way you can argue that its antisemitic to be against genocide and apartheid.
 
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Leimonis

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I've heard people issue broad, sweeping statements like "Asians are smart" and can't understand when I point out that that is a racist comment. I understand that it was meant as a compliment, but it is racist none the less.
 

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The fact that you consider it "principled" to gloat, jeer, cheerlead and fund the Israeli mass murder and violent dispossession of the Palestinians is the height of racism.

People's justified hatred for it, on the other hand, is not. It is just normal human disgust towards something so appallingly violent, unjust and hateful.
You are just proving my point.
 

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In all of this self-righteous indignation of the Israeli people, I am floored by the hypocrisy here.

We (whites) have been illegally occupying aboriginal lands since the 16th century and we have been just as brutal and just as uncaring...even now.

I do believe that Israel will win this war too. I'm not picking sides when I say this. They are really serious about eliminating Hamas...and they likely will this time.

However, we should not be trying to shame Israel, when we are occupiers ourselves....very hypocritical at best.....
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Frankfooter

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In all of this self-righteous indignation of the Israeli people, I am floored by the hypocrisy here.

We (whites) have been illegally occupying aboriginal lands since the 16th century and we have been just as brutal and just as uncaring...even now.

I do believe that Israel will win this war too. I'm not picking sides when I say this. They are really serious about eliminating Hamas...and they likely will this time.

However, we should not be trying to shame Israel, when we are occupiers ourselves....very hypocritical at best.....
Hypocrisy?

Not at all. Canada is in a process, remember truth and reconciliation?
Indigenous only were given the right to vote in the 60's, remember, its a process.

Its not about Canada having to have a clean slate to criticize other country's human rights abuses, its about trying to fix what is systematic and wrong here AND calling out bigger abuses elsewhere.

Besides, this issue already is linked to indigenous rights globally, now you're just trying to push your own views and tell indigenous people what you think they are allowed to support.

 

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I'll tell you what is racist. It is racist to get your panties in a bunch over someone calling out rich industrialists, bankers and powerful politicians for being in bed with the Israel lobby, that is trying to influence the government to make policy decisions that are beneficial to a foreign state, while at the same time gloating, jeering and actively promoting mass murder of poor and powerless people, by that same state while stealing their land, because they belong to a certain religion.

As I said before, antisemitism today is an overused meaningless word. Jews are neither the most oppressed people in the west, nor is antisemitism the "highest form of racism" as some "good white people" seem to think. Anti-black attitudes, being against BLM, denying systemic racism, Islamophobia, being anti-immigrant - these are bigger and more compelling issues than antisemitism. This is not the 1930s after all.
I will end this discourse regardless of what you write back after I post this.
You are ridiculous, uninformed, antisemitic, anti-white, and most likely woke.
Luckily, I never ever have to meet you because it would be a complete waste of 10 min in my life.
Go back to thinking your antiquated thoughts and actually think that Jews, Christians and whites have not been absorbing a ton of “oppressor vs oppressed” BS mentality. I’m sure you show up for every single visible minority but god forbid you ever acknowledge that this woke mentality is a cancer in our society.
Goodbye and good riddance!!
 

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I will end this discourse regardless of what you write back after I post this.
You are ridiculous, uninformed, antisemitic, anti-white, and most likely woke.
Luckily, I never ever have to meet you because it would be a complete waste of 10 min in my life.
Go back to thinking your antiquated thoughts and actually think that Jews, Christians and whites have not been absorbing a ton of “oppressor vs oppressed” BS mentality. I’m sure you show up for every single visible minority but god forbid you ever acknowledge that this woke mentality is a cancer in our society.
Goodbye and good riddance!!
Thanks for dropping by.
You make a good spokesman for zionism.
 
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All three nations that signed the joint statement have experienced a demographic shift over the past thirty years.

Muslims outnumber Jews by multiples in Canada. They may not have the money to buy politicians, but they're a large vote bank.
Just maybe the shift in Canadians opinion has less to do with a demographic change than with Israel bombing hospitals and UN schools.
 

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Hypocrisy?

Not at all. Canada is in a process, remember truth and reconciliation?
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You outright reject the Jewish presence in the Middle East even though half of Israeli Jews are indigenous to former Ottoman lands but are quite happy to live on stolen lands from which they were ethnically cleansed.

Obviously your support of human rights stops when it inconveniences you.
 

Frankfooter

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You outright reject the Jewish presence in the Middle East
Bullshit, I have never said anything and for you to repeats such obvious and blatant lies makes you look like a POS like shack.
I support the end of apartheid so that everyone living there, Jews, Christians and Palestinians can learn how to live together with equal rights.
Nobody has to move out of the country, maybe just out of illegal settlements and stolen land/homes, but not out of the country.

Reports are that Netanyahu is in talks about returning hostages which means a ceasefire.
Sounds like killing three hostages waving white flags has really turned the public against him.
But not for killing 10,000 children.

 

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"Of the 2016 and 2020 presidential candidates, many front runners were either married to Jews, had children who were married to Jews, or were Jewish themselves. Presidential candidates Bernie Sanders, Michael Bloomberg, and Marianne Williamson are Jewish. Michael Bennet's mother is Jewish. Beto O'Rourke and Kamala Harris are married to Jews. Donald Trump's daughter Ivanka converted to Judaism and married the Jewish real estate developer Jared Kushner. Both were active in Trump's administration. Bill and Hillary Clinton's daughter Chelsea Clinton married the Jewish investor Marc Mezvinsky, the son of U.S. Representative and felon Edward Mezvinsky. Lastly, all three of Joe Biden's children who lived into adulthood married Jews.[13]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Jews_in_politics
 

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Like when you call them 'vermin' or vaguely talk about how nukes are a great way to end a war?
Provide the the threads that I said those things, the posts themselves and the post numbers.

You celebrate every Gazan death and want the war to continue. Your support of a negotiated ceasefire and BDS sanctions prove those accusations.
 
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