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By the way, Frankfooter said that if I responded to his questions about the "racist state" idiocy, he would produce a quote from a Palestinian leader that shows explicit acceptance of the Jewish state.

I responded to Frankfooter's questions. So, where's the quote?
 

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Because it was (despite you ridiculous lies about there being no map).

I see you are still unwilling to explain why Abbas didn't just propose his own map if that was his only objection.
You'd make a great real estate salesman.
I can see it going like this.

Yes, I've got a great cottage property for you, its the deal of the century.
How many acres is it?
Oh, lots.
Can I see the map?
No, you don't need that, its the deal of the century!
I need to know where it is.
No problem, here's some paper, why don't you draw your own map!

Its really comedy gold this 'deal of the century' but no, you can't see the map business.
 

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By the way, Frankfooter said that if I responded to his questions about the "racist state" idiocy, he would produce a quote from a Palestinian leader that shows explicit acceptance of the Jewish state.

I responded to Frankfooter's questions. So, where's the quote?
That request has been made by many here, for months,... and still no quote(s).

So just chalk it up as another lie.
 

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That request has been made by many here, for months,... and still no quote(s).

So just chalk it up as another lie.
Are you guys still waiting for a statement from Palestinians saying that they accept that Israel is racist and that's ok with them?
Ever since Phil has admitted that Israel is apartheid, your arguments are getting funny.

You also support Israeli apartheid, right FAST?
 

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Don't hold your breath,...

And still no quote from Anti-Semitic terrorist supporters,.. quoting a statement form Palestine,... that they would accept Israel as a state,... in ANY proposed two state solution.

But not surprising,... as that is something the that would never be agreed to, by states bent on Israel's destruction.
 

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And still no quote from Anti-Semitic terrorist supporters,.. quoting a statement form Palestine,... that they would accept Israel as a state,... in ANY proposed two state solution.

But not surprising,... as that is something the that would never be agreed to, by states bent on Israel's destruction.
I've already given you statements showing that Palestinians would accept the two state solution.
But you won't find a statement saying that they approve of the idea of accepting Israel as a racist, Jewish state.

But keep pretending you're ignoring these posts, its entertaining.

Meanwhile, I note that you are cowardly refusing to answer this question.
South Africa has stated that Israel is the only apartheid country in the world, so do you, like Phil, back Israel as an apartheid state?
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/2...l-is-only-apartheid-state-in-the-world-today/
 

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I've already given you statements showing that Palestinians would accept the two state solution.
But you won't find a statement saying that they approve of the idea of accepting Israel as a racist, Jewish state.

But keep pretending you're ignoring these posts, its entertaining.

Meanwhile, I note that you are cowardly refusing to answer this question.
South Africa has stated that Israel is the only apartheid country in the world, so do you, like Phil, back Israel as an apartheid state?
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/2...l-is-only-apartheid-state-in-the-world-today/
And still nothing from Anti-Semitic terrorist supporters,.. quoting a statement from a Palestine government,... that they would accept Israel as a state,... in ANY proposed two state solution.

But not surprising,... as that is something the that would never be agreed to, by terrorist supporters , and states bent on Israel's destruction.

Also not surprising,... if those who claim said quote exists,... suffers from Hunting's Disease, semantic satiation,... and self inflicted cowardis,... said non existent quote is not going to be posted anytime soon.

But what will be posted,... is the same incorrect term,... repeated over and over and over again,... ad infinitum.
 

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Now we have one political party in Israel saying that Israel is apartheid.
Zahava Gal-On, the leader of left-wing Israeli party Meretz, described the Israeli measures in the occupied Palestinian territories as “apartheid”, Quds Press reported yesterday.

During her speech at the annual conference of the Israeli Institute of National Security Studies (INSS), Gal-On said: “The occupation must be a temporary solution. We turned it to a permanent solution. There is one name for this: apartheid.”
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/2...easures-in-palestinian-territories-apartheid/


The time for arguing what kind of state Palestinians said they'd agree to is way over, now its time to figure out how to end apartheid.
Apartheid is a war crime only one notch less evil then genocide.

Stop supporting Israeli apartheid.
Bring in the ICC and equal rights.
 

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Sounds like something the desperate NDP would pull.

But the real point is,... there is NO apartheid in Israel.

For anybody to claim that,... is truly stupid,... would be similar to calling Quebec apartheid,... or the US apartheid,... since it is on the same continent as Canada.

The citizens of Israel are all treated as equal,... to state other wise,... is lie.

To this day,... the UN, even with 18 Arab states a members, no bias there,... or the useless ICC,...has yet to accuse Israel of applying apartheid to its citizens,... why, because they can't.

Since Israel citizens are all treated as equals,... and therefor NOTHING like what the conditions in South Africa under apartheid rule,... are we no going to here that Israel is applying a new version dreamed up by terrorist supporters ,... maybe a version,... called Paliapart,... which would be fitting,... as Palestinians are not Israelis.
 

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Sounds like something the desperate NDP would pull.

But the real point is,... there is NO apartheid in Israel.

For anybody to claim that,... is truly stupid,... would be similar to calling Quebec apartheid,... or the US apartheid,... since it is on the same continent as Canada.

The citizens of Israel are all treated as equal,... to state other wise,... is lie.

To this day,... the UN, even with 18 Arab states a members, no bias there,... or the useless ICC,...has yet to accuse Israel of applying apartheid to its citizens,... why, because they can't.

Since Israel citizens are all treated as equals,... and therefor NOTHING like what the conditions in South Africa under apartheid rule,... are we no going to here that Israel is applying a new version dreamed up by terrorist supporters ,... maybe a version,... called Paliapart,... which would be fitting,... as Palestinians are not Israelis.
Nope.
You've got an Israeli government party calling Israel apartheid.
The UN says Israel is apartheid.
South Africa says Israel is apartheid.
Phil McNasty says Israel is apartheid.

You've lost this battle and now you're stuck backing an evil and very racist policy.
Which makes you a racist.
 

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The UN accuses Israel of apartheid lie,...

More cowardly terrorist supporter lies.

"A report, which was published by the U.N. Economic and Social Commission for Western Asia (ESCWA).

ESCWA comprises 18 Arab states in Western Asia and aims to support economic and social development in member states, according to its website. The report was prepared at the request of member states, Khalaf said.

U.N. spokesman Stephane Dujarric told reporters in New York that the report was published without any prior consultation with the U.N. secretariat."


And still nothing quotable from a Palestinian government stating that Israel would be allowed to exist in a two state solution.

Just continual lie after lie.
 

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You'd make a great real estate salesman.....
Thank you.

The problem with your arguments is that Abbas admits he was shown a detailed map. If he didn't like that map he could have easily brought back his own map.

The facts show Abbas' rejection wasn't about real estate; I can't help him with his refusal to accept living beside Jews.
 

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Are you guys still waiting for a statement from Palestinians saying that they accept that Israel is racist and that's ok with them?...
Strange. You take issue with Israel defining itself as the homeland as the Jewish people but have no problem with the Palestinians defining themselves as an Islamic State ruled by Islamic law.
 

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Nope.
You've got an Israeli government party calling Israel apartheid.
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The laughable part of this argument is it just reinforces that Israel is a state based on legal rights and freedoms. Whenever someone in the West Bank makes a public statement against Abbas he gets arrested while someone in Gaza criticizing Hamas gets lynched.
 

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More cowardly terrorist supporter lies.

"A report, which was published by the U.N. Economic and Social Commission for Western Asia (ESCWA).

ESCWA comprises 18 Arab states in Western Asia and aims to support economic and social development in member states, according to its website. The report was prepared at the request of member states, Khalaf said.

U.N. spokesman Stephane Dujarric told reporters in New York that the report was published without any prior consultation with the U.N. secretariat."


And still nothing quotable from a Palestinian government stating that Israel would be allowed to exist in a two state solution.

Just continual lie after lie.
Not to mention that report was rejected by the UN and appears nowhere on any UN website.

Fraudfooter is happy to accept some rejected statement by a fringe group of human rights abusers but refuses to listen to the UN when they say Two States as the only possible path forward and that terrorism from Palestinian militants is not productive.
 

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Palestinians have 'accepted' the Jewish state years ago, it didn't change anything.
(Y)ou won't find a statement saying that they approve of the idea of accepting Israel as a racist, Jewish state.
Finally, Frankfooter acknowledges that his claim that Palestinians "'accepted' the Jewish state years ago" was total B.S.

They have never accepted it. That's why they continue to be wards of the U.N. and don't have their own sovereign state.
 

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I've already given you statements showing that Palestinians would accept the two state solution.
But you won't find a statement saying that they approve of the idea of accepting Israel as a racist, Jewish state.
The two sentences quoted above contradict each other.

Until the Palestinians agree to accept Israel's existence as a Jewish state, there is no two-state solution. The only thing that is left is the status quo.
 

Frankfooter

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Thank you.

The problem with your arguments is that Abbas admits he was shown a detailed map.
The word 'detailed' is not in the reports.
Abbas was shown a map but wasn't allowed to get a copy, the idea being he had to agree and then Israel would really draw the map out later, to their advantage.

Its like making a deal with a contractor and he says, 'yes, here's the contract. But you don't get a copy'
That's a deal for a sucker.
 

Frankfooter

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Strange. You take issue with Israel defining itself as the homeland as the Jewish people but have no problem with the Palestinians defining themselves as an Islamic State ruled by Islamic law.
Strange, you are making shit up again and claiming I said it.
Must be because you lost the apartheid argument so badly.
 

Frankfooter

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The two sentences quoted above contradict each other.

Until the Palestinians agree to accept Israel's existence as a Jewish state, there is no two-state solution. The only thing that is left is the status quo.
They accepted Israel's existence, why do they need to also accept whether its racist or not?
That's up for Israel to decide, like say, the way they implemented racist apartheid right now.
Do you think Palestinians need to accept apartheid?
 
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