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Frankfooter

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I would characterize myself as definitely left of centre but I am by no means an ideologue. There are definitely issues in which I skew to the right. As I've said before, just as no individual is always correct the same applies to every ism or political stripe. I look at any issue and make up my own mind, not because a leftie or a rightie or whatever is supposed to think a certain way.

As to my stance on Israel, my posts are mainly intended as debate aimed at Geno's incessant lying about and constant demonizing of Israel and what's happening in the war as opposed to blindly supporting Israel. As such, when he spews his incessant hate speech about Jews, Israel, Zionism and on and on and justifying Hamas' terrorist acts, I do not let his lies pass unchallenged. TBH, if he wasn't so vile with his repugnant claims and phony charts and pictures of mutilated babies, I can honestly tell you that you'd probably hardly here a peep out of me regarding Israel. But I refuse to let his lies pass. If he stopped lying and stopped debating so disingenuously I would not be so vehement in my comments.

I am refuting Geno more than supporting Israel. But since most of his lies are about Israel and I argue back, I can understand why you have that opinion of my posting. I'm hoping you accept my explanation because it is the truth. And if you don't, I can live with that too.

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82 accusations of lying, 46 intentional misquotes (straw man arguments) - 0 proof
4 intentional lies about views

You are very sad, you accuse everyone of lying.
The UN, ICC, ICJ, HRW, Amnesty, B'tselem and anyone critical of Israel.

 

shack

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You keep lying about my views,
If you think so, just tell us your view instead of keeping it hidden.

I claim that you believe, that it is your view that 100% of Israeli Jews are Zionists but you are afraid to say so. If my view is wrong, you can very simply clear up this misunderstanding and enlighten us by telling us what %age of Israeli Jews do you believe are Zionists. Not what the actual number is, just your belief or, in your own words, what is your view?

Until such time, the 100% claim will remain duly noted.
 
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Frankfooter

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If you think so, just tell us your view instead of keeping it hidden.

I claim that you believe, that it is your view that 100% of Israeli Jews are Zionists but you are afraid to say so. If my view is wrong, you can very simply clear up this misunderstanding and enlighten us by telling us what %age of Israeli Jews do you believe are Zionists. Not what the actual number is, just your belief or, in your own words, what is your view?

Until such time, the 100% claim will remain duly noted.
I've repeatedly told you. It doesn't matter what I say you will lie regardless.

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shack

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I've repeatedly told you. It doesn't matter what I say you will lie regardless.
All you do is run away. You are afraid to voice your opinion.

Once again, by not providing your opinion on what percentage of Israeli Jews are Zionists, you are:

1)unable to call me a liar if I don't know what the truth is
2)giving tacit approval to my statement that you believe that 100% of Israeli Jews are Zionists, as the record will continue to show.

As well, it gives me carte blanche to say that whenever I want. You do not argue against my claim.
 

shack

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Honest question...Which issues would you skew to the right?
Don't think I can give anything close to a comprehensive answer off the top of my head. If I leave stuff out, feel free to ask me about any particular issue.

Trans in sports.
Bike lanes.
Israel.
Support for the police.
Old school values.
Anti-woke.
Old school education. Teach them proper readin' and writin' and deduct marks for spellin'. I don't know whether it's more embarrassing or painful to read written word composition. And learn your fucking times tables without a calculator. I was 6 years old when my dad made me memorize the times table from 1x1 to 12x12. I caught hell if I made a mistake. Kids who work at checkout can't even make proper change, let alone figure out what the change should be on their own.
Discipline
Respect for authority.

That's better than I thought I'd do. LOL. But as I said, ask away if you are so inclined.
 

Frankfooter

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All you do is run away. You are afraid to voice your opinion.

Once again, by not providing your opinion on what percentage of Israeli Jews are Zionists, you are:

1)unable to call me a liar if I don't know what the truth is
2)giving tacit approval to my statement that you believe that 100% of Israeli Jews are Zionists, as the record will continue to show.

As well, it gives me carte blanche to say that whenever I want. You do not argue against my claim.
Like I said, it doesn't matter what I say, you will just lie anyways.

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85 accusations of lying, 46 intentional misquotes (straw man arguments) - 0 proof
7 intentional lies about views
 
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shack

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Like I said, it doesn't matter what I say, you will just lie anyways.
You've repeatedly agreed that you feel 100% of Israeli Jews are Zionists. You've never challenged that number when I say that is what you believe. It's obvious why you don't want to answer. You're afraid to admit that you want every Jew in Israel exterminated.

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Frankfooter

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You've repeatedly agreed that you feel 100% of Israeli Jews are Zionists. You've never challenged that number when I say that is what you believe. It's obvious why you don't want to answer. You're afraid to admit that you want every Jew in Israel exterminated.

shack counter:
87 accusations of lying, 47 intentional misquotes (straw man arguments) - 0 proof
8 intentional lies about views

Stick to defending calling every Palestinian 'Hamas', as you did earlier today.
 

shack

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Nobody cares how many fingers and toes you have.

It is you who is the one that's been marginalized by your lies and deceit. My rep is intact and, in fact, it has been enhanced by exposing your lies. People who agree with me and, shall we say, have a lesser opinion of you:

whynot888
Bucksnort
leimonis
Gerry B
mitchell
Phil C McNasty
andrei boris
Mandrill
Goodboy
Schlong Connery
NotaDcotor
squeezer
richaceg
Gameboy 27
basketcase
Butler 1000
canada-man
wyzemc2
uwauwa
princekwekua
vinson
wyattearp
jsanchez
Conil
Skoob
Peteeey
bazokajoe
RZG
Bob4430
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Bggolfingmaniac
Operative Ferm
xyphy
Tasting You
Pete Osborne
kherg 007
shack
WLKF1
Looking4UTonight
Operative Fern
Shapeup1
 

Frankfooter

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Nobody cares how many fingers and toes you have.

It is you who is the one that's been marginalized by your lies and deceit. My rep is intact and, in fact, it has been enhanced by exposing your lies. People who agree with me and, shall we say, have a lesser opinion of you:

whynot888
Bucksnort
leimonis
Gerry B
mitchell
Phil C McNasty
andrei boris
Mandrill
Goodboy
Schlong Connery
NotaDcotor
squeezer
richaceg
Gameboy 27
basketcase
Butler 1000
canada-man
wyzemc2
uwauwa
princekwekua
vinson
wyattearp
jsanchez
Conil
Skoob
Peteeey
bazokajoe
RZG
Bob4430
Speaker Controls
Bggolfingmaniac
Operative Ferm
xyphy
Tasting You
Pete Osborne
kherg 007
shack
WLKF1
Looking4UTonight
Operative Fern
Shapeup1
I'd like to see permission from everyone you've named on this list that they are ok with you saying you speak for them.
Go to it, you wouldn't want to be found to be bullshitting about people again, would you?

Please start a poll asking they back you and your support of war criminal Netanyahu in his genocide and are willing to have you speak for them.

 

wigglee

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war is a nasty business
The innocent population always suffer the greatest
The people of Germany suffered greatly for allowing the NAZI Mafioso to gain power
The people of Japan suffered greatly for for allowing their Mafioso to gain power (KABOOM)
The people of Russia and China suffered greatly for allowing the Communist Mafioso to gain power (possibly 50 to 100 million people dead murdered, enslaved / worked to death and starved)
the destruction of infrastructure and starvation always happens in a war

&
The Palestinians have & will suffer greatly for allowing the Hamas Mafioso to gain power

"the elimination of Israel" as your objective is a genocidal objective
And the root cause of this war
Two facts you allow yourself to ignore

I am not a supporter of Israel as you imply.
I just point out the facts of the matter

and once again you have allowed yourself to ignore the facts of the matter
Fact is, it isn't even a war. It is over year of collective mass punishment of an oppressed people who have lived in a prison camp for years and are now being bombed into the pre-stone age by a rich and powerful foe. Yes, Oct 7 was foolish and wrong, but what has happened since is brutal, inhumane and genocide ( with just enough restraint so they can claim it's not)... but it is. Tell me , how many Israelis have died in the "war " since Oct. 14th, 2023? That is not a war, but YOU choose to ignore that fact.
 
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wigglee

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Nobody cares how many fingers and toes you have.

It is you who is the one that's been marginalized by your lies and deceit. My rep is intact and, in fact, it has been enhanced by exposing your lies. People who agree with me and, shall we say, have a lesser opinion of you:

whynot888
Bucksnort
leimonis
Gerry B
mitchell
Phil C McNasty
andrei boris
Mandrill
Goodboy
Schlong Connery
NotaDcotor
squeezer
richaceg
Gameboy 27
basketcase
Butler 1000
canada-man
wyzemc2
uwauwa
princekwekua
vinson
wyattearp
jsanchez
Conil
Skoob
Peteeey
bazokajoe
RZG
Bob4430
Speaker Controls
Bggolfingmaniac
Operative Ferm
xyphy
Tasting You
Pete Osborne
kherg 007
shack
WLKF1
Looking4UTonight
Operative Fern
Shapeup1
That also happens to be the membership list of the Terb rightwing redneck club who still pine for the Coach's Corner. ( with the possible exception of Basketcase who is more like Shack, an otherwise lefty with a hard on for Netanyahoo)
 
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JohnLarue

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Fact is, it isn't even a war. It is over year of collective mass punishment of an oppressed people who have lived in a prison camp for years and are now being bombed into the pre-stone age by a rich and powerful foe. Yes, Oct 7 was foolish and wrong, but what has happened since is brutal, inhumane and genocide ( with just enough restraint so they can claim it's not)... but it is. Tell me , how many Israelis have died in the "war " since Oct. 14th, 2023? That is not a war, but YOU choose to ignore that fact.
Declaring the ''elimination of a sovereign state'' as your objective is as clear a declaration of war as one can possibly make
Fact is, its a war .

on Oct 7 Hamas attacked, raped and murdered un-armed Israeli citizens in Israel
not only was that foolish and wrong, it was an act of war
you want to justify your deranged support of the blood thirty murdering lunatic Hamas Mafioso by trying to redefine what WAR is
do not be ridiculous

Japan's attack on Peral Harbour was foolish and wrong
Hitlers attack on Russia was foolish and wrong
Iraq's attack on Kuwait was foolish and wrong

each wound up losing and precipitating death and destruction on their own population

Tell me , how many Israelis have died in the "war " since Oct. 14th, 2023?
The fact your preferred side is losing does not absolve them of guilt

again with your foolish and wrong ideal that a ridiculous death score cards determines right vs wrong
Germany suffered far less causalities than Russia but still ended up losing
Germany was deemed to be the aggressor and the evil party
Quite a feat considering the victim and victor were the evil communists
how did you mark up your ridiculous balanced scorecard of death for that little rumble?

now get this through your head
war is a nasty business
The innocent population always suffer the greatest

The Palestinians can end this war by giving up the Hamas Mafioso

you backed the genocidal lunatics Hamas Mafioso and are appalled they have precipitated death and destruction.
you refuse to acknowledge the surrender / destruction of Hamas Mafioso is the only pathway to peace.

That makes you a damn fool.
unless of course your unconditional support for the Hamas Mafioso is driven by your religious intolerance of Jews
 
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JohnLarue

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What's stopping you from asking them?

They've all made posts critical of you and/or your views.

is Frankfooter still oblivious to the fact he is universally viewed as untrustworthy comic relief ?

rule of thumb: If one finds himself aligned with Frankfooter , one should stop and re-evaluate ones position
 

Frankfooter

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Declaring the ''elimination of a sovereign state'' as your objective is as clear a declaration of war as one can possibly make
Fact is, its a war .

on Oct 7 Hamas attacked, raped and murdered un-armed Israeli citizens in Israel
not only was that foolish and wrong, it was an act of war
you want to justify your deranged support of the blood thirty murdering lunatic Hamas Mafioso by trying to redefine what WAR is
do not be ridiculous

Japan's attack on Peral Harbour was foolish and wrong
Hitlers attack on Russia was foolish and wrong
Iraq's attack on Kuwait was foolish and wrong

each wound up losing and precipitating death and destruction on their own population


The fact your preferred side is losing does not absolve them of guilt

again with your foolish and wrong ideal that a ridiculous death score cards determines right vs wrong
Germany suffered far less causalities than Russia but still ended up losing
Germany was deemed to be the aggressor and the evil party
Quite a feat considering the victim and victor were the evil communists
how did you mark up your ridiculous balanced scorecard of death for that little rumble?

now get this through your head
war is a nasty business
The innocent population always suffer the greatest

The Palestinians can end this war by giving up the Hamas Mafioso

you backed the genocidal lunatics Hamas Mafioso and are appalled they have precipitated death and destruction.
you refuse to acknowledge the surrender / destruction of Hamas Mafioso is the only pathway to peace.

That makes you a damn fool.
unless of course your unconditional support for the Hamas Mafioso is driven by your religious intolerance of Jews
Factually wrong.
1) All the rape allegations by Hamas have been debunked, check out the last notadoctor arguments. While there are multiple cases of rape by Israelis including a national poll saying 47% of Israelis think its ok to rape Palestinian prisoners when their hands are tied.
2) Its not a war, Gaza is part of the Occupied Territory of Palestine and is illegally occupied. You can't declare war against a people you are occupying according to international law.
3) You're now backing a wanted war criminal leadership that will be charged for genocide.

Stupid wars and killings like this will continue until people start pushing for rules based governance instead of this tribal, might is right, colonial shite.
 
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