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shack

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You are now running away.

You accused me of getting off on 'kiddie death porn' and now you are running away.
I said I didn't want zionist circle jerk porn posted on terb, you replied that you think my preference is 'kiddie death porn'.

Its a bit like this.
Not running at all. I respond to over 90% of posts you direct at me. But when you post nonsense, it does not worthy of a response. I'm not going down your rabbit holes. As the saying goes, don't argue with an idiot as they'll only drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

As far as running away, I claim that you believe that 100% of Israeli Jews are Zionists. If I am wrong, what is the correct percentage. If you cannot provide an alternate percentage it means that you accept my claim at face value.

Seeing as how much death and destruction has come to Gaza since the attack of Oct. 7, do you believe that that attack was a smart thing to do?

They are simple questions and only require your opinion and it does not need to be factual, so knowledge or lack thereof is not a factor. Don't run awaaaay.
 
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Not running at all. I respond to over 90% of posts you direct at me. But when you post nonsense, it does not worthy of a response. I'm not going down your rabbit holes. As the saying goes, don't argue with an idiot as they'll only drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

As far as running away, I claim that you believe that 100% of Israeli Jews are Zionists. If I am wrong, what is the correct percentage. If you cannot provide an alternate percentage it means that you accept my claim at face value.

Seeing as how much death and destruction has come to Gaza since the attack of Oct. 7, do you believe that that attack was a smart thing to do?

They are simple questions and only require your opinion and it does not need to be factual, so knowledge or lack thereof is not a factor. Don't run awaaaay.
Do you think turning Israel into a pariah state lead by a wanted war criminal committing genocide was smart?

 

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Do you think turning Israel into a pariah state lead by a wanted war criminal committing genocide was smart?
Well, there's 2 more questions you just ran away from after accusing me of running away.

Every accusation you make turns out to be a confession. It's pathetic. This is why you have zero credibility here.

So you are sticking with your belief that 100% of Israeli Jews are Zionists. Duly noted. LOL. No problem. I knew I was right.
 
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Hypocrisy amongst left wingers ??
and coming from Louie "the loon" Lefty himself

are the rattlesnakes finally turning on each other ?

you ignore facts and rationality all the time
it is standard operating procedure for you

case in point: you are ignoring the root cause of the conflict, Hamas' stated objective "The elimination of Israel"
a genocidal objective

but so easy and convenient for you to ignore
I certainly was not referring to John Attila the Hun LaRue as a left winger. ..LOL, but Shack is ( other than his Israel can do no wrong" stance). I am well aware of the "Hamas is bad" excuse given by the supporters of the Gazan genocide. I agree that Hamas is bad , but that does not justify the total destruction of Gaza's infrastructure or the killing of 48000 Palestinians and the "starving as a weapon of war" tactic.
 
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I certainly was not referring to John Attila the Hun LaRue as a left winger. ..LOL, but Shack is ( other than his Israel can do no wrong" stance). I am well aware of the "Hamas is bad" excuse given by the supporters of the Gazan genocide. I agree that Hamas is bad , but that does not justify the total destruction of Gaza's infrastructure or the killing of 48000 Palestinians and the "starving as a weapon of war" tactic.
I would characterize myself as definitely left of centre but I am by no means an ideologue. There are definitely issues in which I skew to the right. As I've said before, just as no individual is always correct the same applies to every ism or political stripe. I look at any issue and make up my own mind, not because a leftie or a rightie or whatever is supposed to think a certain way.

As to my stance on Israel, my posts are mainly intended as debate aimed at Geno's incessant lying about and constant demonizing of Israel and what's happening in the war as opposed to blindly supporting Israel. As such, when he spews his incessant hate speech about Jews, Israel, Zionism and on and on and justifying Hamas' terrorist acts, I do not let his lies pass unchallenged. TBH, if he wasn't so vile with his repugnant claims and phony charts and pictures of mutilated babies, I can honestly tell you that you'd probably hardly here a peep out of me regarding Israel. But I refuse to let his lies pass. If he stopped lying and stopped debating so disingenuously I would not be so vehement in my comments.

I am refuting Geno more than supporting Israel. But since most of his lies are about Israel and I argue back, I can understand why you have that opinion of my posting. I'm hoping you accept my explanation because it is the truth. And if you don't, I can live with that too.
 
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I would characterize myself as definitely left of centre but I am by no means an ideologue. There are definitely issues in which I skew to the right. As I've said before, just as no individual is always correct the same applies to every ism or political stripe. I look at any issue and make up my own mind, not because a leftie or a rightie or whatever is supposed to think a certain way.

As to my stance on Israel, my posts are mainly intended as debate aimed at Geno's incessant lying about and constant demonizing of Israel and what's happening in the war as opposed to blindly supporting Israel. As such, when he spews his incessant hate speech about Jews, Israel, Zionism and on and on and justifying Hamas' terrorist acts, I do not let his lies pass unchallenged. TBH, if he wasn't so vile with his repugnant claims and phony charts and pictures of mutilated babies, I can honestly tell you that you'd probably hardly here a peep out of me regarding Israel. But I refuse to let his lies pass. If he stopped lying and stopped debating so disingenuously I would not be so vehement in my comments.

I am refuting Geno more than supporting Israel. But since most of his lies are about Israel and I argue back, I can understand why you have that opinion of my posting. I'm hoping you accept my explanation because it is the truth. And if you don't, I can live with that too.
Translation: You are obsessed with Frankfooter. As soon as you came back from your suspension, you started this thread about him. It’s creepy.
 
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I certainly was not referring to John Attila the Hun LaRue as a left winger. ..LOL, but Shack is ( other than his Israel can do no wrong" stance). I am well aware of the "Hamas is bad" excuse given by the supporters of the Gazan genocide. I agree that Hamas is bad , but that does not justify the total destruction of Gaza's infrastructure or the killing of 48000 Palestinians and the "starving as a weapon of war" tactic.
war is a nasty business
The innocent population always suffer the greatest
The people of Germany suffered greatly for allowing the NAZI Mafioso to gain power
The people of Japan suffered greatly for for allowing their Mafioso to gain power (KABOOM)
The people of Russia and China suffered greatly for allowing the Communist Mafioso to gain power (possibly 50 to 100 million people dead murdered, enslaved / worked to death and starved)
the destruction of infrastructure and starvation always happens in a war

&
The Palestinians have & will suffer greatly for allowing the Hamas Mafioso to gain power

"the elimination of Israel" as your objective is a genocidal objective
And the root cause of this war
Two facts you allow yourself to ignore

I am not a supporter of Israel as you imply.
I just point out the facts of the matter

and once again you have allowed yourself to ignore the facts of the matter
 
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Well, there's 2 more questions you just ran away from after accusing me of running away.

Every accusation you make turns out to be a confession. It's pathetic. This is why you have zero credibility here.

So you are sticking with your belief that 100% of Israeli Jews are Zionists. Duly noted. LOL. No problem. I knew I was right.
You keep lying about my views, I'm going to have to update the counter.

shack counter:
81 accusations of lying, 46 intentional misquotes (straw man arguments) - 0 proof
3 intentional lies about views

Here's one poll I found that I'm sure you'll enjoy.
41% of Jewish American teens say Israel is committing genocide.
Bodes well for the future of zionism, doesn't it?

 

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I would characterize myself as definitely left of centre but I am by no means an ideologue. There are definitely issues in which I skew to the right. As I've said before, just as no individual is always correct the same applies to every ism or political stripe. I look at any issue and make up my own mind, not because a leftie or a rightie or whatever is supposed to think a certain way.

As to my stance on Israel, my posts are mainly intended as debate aimed at Geno's incessant lying about and constant demonizing of Israel and what's happening in the war as opposed to blindly supporting Israel. As such, when he spews his incessant hate speech about Jews, Israel, Zionism and on and on and justifying Hamas' terrorist acts, I do not let his lies pass unchallenged. TBH, if he wasn't so vile with his repugnant claims and phony charts and pictures of mutilated babies, I can honestly tell you that you'd probably hardly here a peep out of me regarding Israel. But I refuse to let his lies pass. If he stopped lying and stopped debating so disingenuously I would not be so vehement in my comments.

I am refuting Geno more than supporting Israel. But since most of his lies are about Israel and I argue back, I can understand why you have that opinion of my posting. I'm hoping you accept my explanation because it is the truth. And if you don't, I can live with that too.

shack counter:
82 accusations of lying, 46 intentional misquotes (straw man arguments) - 0 proof
4 intentional lies about views

You are very sad, you accuse everyone of lying.
The UN, ICC, ICJ, HRW, Amnesty, B'tselem and anyone critical of Israel.

 

shack

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You keep lying about my views,
If you think so, just tell us your view instead of keeping it hidden.

I claim that you believe, that it is your view that 100% of Israeli Jews are Zionists but you are afraid to say so. If my view is wrong, you can very simply clear up this misunderstanding and enlighten us by telling us what %age of Israeli Jews do you believe are Zionists. Not what the actual number is, just your belief or, in your own words, what is your view?

Until such time, the 100% claim will remain duly noted.
 
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If you think so, just tell us your view instead of keeping it hidden.

I claim that you believe, that it is your view that 100% of Israeli Jews are Zionists but you are afraid to say so. If my view is wrong, you can very simply clear up this misunderstanding and enlighten us by telling us what %age of Israeli Jews do you believe are Zionists. Not what the actual number is, just your belief or, in your own words, what is your view?

Until such time, the 100% claim will remain duly noted.
I've repeatedly told you. It doesn't matter what I say you will lie regardless.

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5 intentional lies about views
 

shack

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I've repeatedly told you. It doesn't matter what I say you will lie regardless.
All you do is run away. You are afraid to voice your opinion.

Once again, by not providing your opinion on what percentage of Israeli Jews are Zionists, you are:

1)unable to call me a liar if I don't know what the truth is
2)giving tacit approval to my statement that you believe that 100% of Israeli Jews are Zionists, as the record will continue to show.

As well, it gives me carte blanche to say that whenever I want. You do not argue against my claim.
 

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Honest question...Which issues would you skew to the right?
Don't think I can give anything close to a comprehensive answer off the top of my head. If I leave stuff out, feel free to ask me about any particular issue.

Trans in sports.
Bike lanes.
Israel.
Support for the police.
Old school values.
Anti-woke.
Old school education. Teach them proper readin' and writin' and deduct marks for spellin'. I don't know whether it's more embarrassing or painful to read written word composition. And learn your fucking times tables without a calculator. I was 6 years old when my dad made me memorize the times table from 1x1 to 12x12. I caught hell if I made a mistake. Kids who work at checkout can't even make proper change, let alone figure out what the change should be on their own.
Discipline
Respect for authority.

That's better than I thought I'd do. LOL. But as I said, ask away if you are so inclined.
 

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All you do is run away. You are afraid to voice your opinion.

Once again, by not providing your opinion on what percentage of Israeli Jews are Zionists, you are:

1)unable to call me a liar if I don't know what the truth is
2)giving tacit approval to my statement that you believe that 100% of Israeli Jews are Zionists, as the record will continue to show.

As well, it gives me carte blanche to say that whenever I want. You do not argue against my claim.
Like I said, it doesn't matter what I say, you will just lie anyways.

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7 intentional lies about views
 
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Like I said, it doesn't matter what I say, you will just lie anyways.
You've repeatedly agreed that you feel 100% of Israeli Jews are Zionists. You've never challenged that number when I say that is what you believe. It's obvious why you don't want to answer. You're afraid to admit that you want every Jew in Israel exterminated.

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You've repeatedly agreed that you feel 100% of Israeli Jews are Zionists. You've never challenged that number when I say that is what you believe. It's obvious why you don't want to answer. You're afraid to admit that you want every Jew in Israel exterminated.

shack counter:
87 accusations of lying, 47 intentional misquotes (straw man arguments) - 0 proof
8 intentional lies about views

Stick to defending calling every Palestinian 'Hamas', as you did earlier today.
 
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