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shack

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Shack went further and inferred it was sexual preference, that's disgusting.
Too funny. So when NAD is referring to an accepted term such as "Food Porn" it means that people want to fuck their food? LOL.

Using "porn" in reference to food or dead children is a metaphor, Geno. It infers an unhealthy obsession. Anybody can see that. You are obsessed with posting these sorts of images over and over. You should stop.
 

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.,...and yet there are many more making the accusations that these organizations are politically (anti-sematic, anti-western etc..) motivated and it's not genocide. Because it's clear that it's not. If the Israeli's wanted a genocide, you would KNOW it. They're not incompetent boobs like the Arabs.

Weird how the ICC has only looked into two huh?

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Now you're at the point where you are trying to argue that its genocide, but just not a big one.

Its clear that Israel is working hard so we don't know the numbers.
They've killed more journalists than any real war over the last 100 years to stop news getting out.
Which is why you still think the number of dead is around 45,000, despite being at about 40,000 for almost a year of bombing and starvation.

In the past Israel worked hard to not kill so many that the world would be outraged, this time they are only caring about the US and its support.
So sure, they could kill more but would even Biden and Harris back them if the did?

If the Lancet numbers are close, you're looking at about 200,000-300,000 which would put the Gaza genocide second only to Rwanda.
Which is why the WHO, Amnesty and all human rights organizations also aren't allowed into Gaza. They would count the dead as well.

 

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And claiming people hold fake views?
Such as the hundreds of times that you falsely claim people are supporting genocide for no other reason than they disagree with you on some secondary issue.

You put words into other people's on a daily basis.
 

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But what you actually do do repeatedly and consistently is to post the most disgusting and horrid pictures of mutilated, disfigured, bleeding children. It's sickening and crosses the lines of acceptability. And those pictures are not even verifiable of being current or even from Gaza. You do not have a reputation for honesty, so how can anybody believe that they are what you claim they are without verification. And BTW, it was not I who coined that term of your pics. I don't know who it was but I conscripted it and it was at least 6 months ago and so why the sudden outrage now?

Delete all those pictures, don't post any more of them and there will be no more need for that term to be used again. And I'm not even asking for an apology.
What is disgusting is that you continue to support Israel through genocide.
If you don't want to see the photos call for a ceasefire.
Israel has killed enough kids that if one were to post the photo of one a day it would take 40 years to post them all, even based on just the Health Ministry numbers.

 

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Such as the hundreds of times that you falsely claim people are supporting genocide for no other reason than they disagree with you on some secondary issue.

You put words into other people's on a daily basis.
Its not a false accusation.
The ICC has issued warrants, the reports are clear and well documented and willful ignorance is not a defence.

45% of Canada believes Israel is committing genocide.
Only 23% disagree.

terb politics forum slants more right than Canada.
Half of Canada backs the claim, that beats out your 'dozens and dozens and dozens'.

 

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Settlers commit terrorism on Palestinians as part of state policy
Which act did the Knesset pass to make it state policy. They can't make it policy without passing such an act.

That's largely because you refuse to admit that the illegal occupation of Palestine is still the real source of the strife,
The actual source is the refusal of Arab leaders' to accept the existence of an Israeli state since even before 1948.

that both Hamas and Hezbollah are responding to the continuation of a 76 year long, illegal occupation. That puts Israel as the instigator, which you won't accept.
It's "interesting" (I could use a different term) that you repeatedly claim to be against terrorism on both sides, but when it comes to the Oct.7 terrorist attack by Hamas, here is a perfect example of you attempting to justify it.

All of that, yet not a single word uttered admitting that Hezbollah and Hamas' are terrorists. It's all one-sided to you.
 

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If you're against terrorism you should be advocating Gazans to reject Hamas, Lebanon to reject Hezbollah. I advocate for Israel to punish settlers who commit violence against Palestinians. You don't.
There are so many holes in his claims of being objective. One could almost think that there is a teeny weeny bit of hypocrisy in there. (I didn't want to say a teenie weenie.)
 
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Which act did the Knesset pass to make it state policy. They can't make it policy without passing such an act.
You think Rwanda had a policy paper on genocide? I posted the B'tselem link, read it and tell me where its wrong.
Otherwise you're posting from ignorance, again.

The actual source is the refusal of Arab leaders' to accept the existence of an Israeli state since even before 1948.
No, the source is your own definition of zionism that states they would take Palestine and create a country called 'Israel' on that land.


It's "interesting" (I could use a different term) that you repeatedly claim to be against terrorism on both sides, but when it comes to the Oct.7 terrorist attack by Hamas, here is a perfect example of you attempting to justify it.

All of that, yet not a single word uttered admitting that Hezbollah and Hamas' are terrorists. It's all one-sided to you.
Palestinians have the right to self defence against an illegal occupation, including the use of violence.
That is their right, but they do not have the right to target civilians, neither does Israel.

Which is why I keep backing taking both sides to the law.
You still refuse to admit that the occupation of Palestine was and is wrong and that the ICJ and UN have ordered Israel to end it.

Why do you back clear war crimes whenever Israel commits them?

 

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You act like its me making the accusations of genocide, not the UN, ICC and ICJ.
I refer to the fact that neither the UNGA or UNSC have passed any such resolutions. And you were claiming "genocide" months and months prior to any IC even considering it.
 

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Now you're at the point where you are trying to argue that its genocide, but just not a big one.
Thank you for providing proof of your fallacious use of the term "genocide".

A genocide can only be massive. Deaths on a smaller scale are casualties of war not a genocide as you just tried to argue right here.
 

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Thank you for providing proof of your fallacious use of the term "genocide".

A genocide can only be massive. Deaths on a smaller scale are casualties of war not a genocide as you just tried to argue right here.
Your own chart posted genocides with smaller numbers.
You defeated your own argument.

Half the country thinks Israel is committing genocide, an argument backed up by charges and reports.
You think denial is an excuse?

You have forgotten every part of 'never again', including how your argument didn't hold water at the Nuremberg Trials.
All you do is make yourself sound like Zundel.


Denial is not a defence.
 

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Your own chart posted genocides with smaller numbers.
You defeated your own argument.
I didn't post any charts. What are you talking about?

Half the country thinks Israel is committing genocide, an argument backed up by charges and reports.
Then you think that trump was the best candidate. Over half of Americans voted for him.

Plus, the stats and polls that you post have been discredited. You reference a one-man polling company whose ambition is to be a video gamer and charges an extra $50 if he has to wear a suit. You never post any valid sources. This is why you have no credibility.


You have forgotten every part of 'never again', including how your argument didn't hold water at the Nuremberg Trials.
Which argument is that?
All you do is make yourself sound like Zundel.
Your hero.

Denial is not a defence.
Of what?
 

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Now you're at the point where you are trying to argue that its genocide, but just not a big one.

Its clear that Israel is working hard so we don't know the numbers.
They've killed more journalists than any real war over the last 100 years to stop news getting out.
Which is why you still think the number of dead is around 45,000, despite being at about 40,000 for almost a year of bombing and starvation.

In the past Israel worked hard to not kill so many that the world would be outraged, this time they are only caring about the US and its support.
So sure, they could kill more but would even Biden and Harris back them if the did?

If the Lancet numbers are close, you're looking at about 200,000-300,000 which would put the Gaza genocide second only to Rwanda.
Which is why the WHO, Amnesty and all human rights organizations also aren't allowed into Gaza. They would count the dead as well.

…and yet there’s been no starvation, no genocide (wars cause civilian casualties duh), and Hamas is doing it to their own population. The palis never learn, fuck around and find out.

Good thing there are always useful idiots that are anti-women, anti-west, anti-democratic people like you to shill for them huh?
 

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But what you actually do do repeatedly and consistently is to post the most disgusting and horrid pictures of mutilated, disfigured, bleeding children. It's sickening and crosses the lines of acceptability. And those pictures are not even verifiable of being current or even from Gaza. You do not have a reputation for honesty, so how can anybody believe that they are what you claim they are without verification. And BTW, it was not I who coined that term of your pics. I don't know who it was but I conscripted it and it was at least 6 months ago and so why the sudden outrage now?

Delete all those pictures, don't post any more of them and there will be no more need for that term to be used again. And I'm not even asking for an apology.
franki is an exhibitionist, the most coercive paraphilias of all. That’s why he’s doing it. Forcing you to look cause it’s a thing with him perhaps.
 

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I didn't post any charts. What are you talking about?
My bad, it was speakercontrol, the knob guy, who posted this chart listing Gaza as a genocide as proof it wasn't a genocide.



Then you think that trump was the best candidate. Over half of Americans voted for him.
Never ever state what you claim I'm thinking.
Every single time you are wrong.

Plus, the stats and polls that you post have been discredited. You reference a one-man polling company whose ambition is to be a video gamer and charges an extra $50 if he has to wear a suit. You never post any valid sources. This is why you have no credibility.
Wrong, that poll was from Leger. The logo is in the image.

Which argument is that?
That your denial of a holocaust is a defence.

Your hero.
Your role model as a holocaust denier now.

Short term memory loss is something you should check with your doctor.

 

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Which act did the Knesset pass to make it state policy. They can't make it policy without passing such an act.


The actual source is the refusal of Arab leaders' to accept the existence of an Israeli state since even before 1948.


It's "interesting" (I could use a different term) that you repeatedly claim to be against terrorism on both sides, but when it comes to the Oct.7 terrorist attack by Hamas, here is a perfect example of you attempting to justify it.

All of that, yet not a single word uttered admitting that Hezbollah and Hamas' are terrorists. It's all one-sided to you.
Poorly educated. Brainwashed from birth.
 

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…and yet there’s been no starvation, no genocide (wars cause civilian casualties duh), and Hamas is doing it to their own population. The palis never learn, fuck around and find out.

Good thing there are always useful idiots that are anti-women, anti-west, anti-democratic people like you to shill for them huh?
Racism
 
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