An Israeli ceasefire isn't worth printing on paper.
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See here's the problem with you.... I'm stating Lebanese Civilians and Gazans civilians are better off not catering to Hamas and Hezbollah... I'm not against civilians franky, I'm against terrorists. I'm also against settlers who commit violence on Palestinians and Lebanese.... in my eyes they're no different from terrorists....you on the other hand is Hamas and Hezbollah are ok...Israelis are not...
good one
you busted me on the border
spelling has never been my strong suit and i type quickly
normally i am not impressed with internet spelling police, however your response was clever / funny
Settlers commit terrorism on Palestinians as part of state policy, as B'tselem has detailed for years.
Israeli commits terrorism in Gaza, the West Bank, Lebanon and Syria, deliberately targeting civilians.
If you were really against terrorism you'd join me in calling for both sides to be held to the law.
You'd be supporting ICC and ICJ charges on both sides and UN resolutions demanding action from both sides.
But you don't, then you declare you think you're not biased.
That's largely because you refuse to admit that the illegal occupation of Palestine is still the real source of the strife, that both Hamas and Hezbollah are responding to the continuation of a 76 year long, illegal occupation. That puts Israel as the instigator, which you won't accept.
If you're against terrorism you should be advocating Gazans to reject Hamas, Lebanon to reject Hezbollah. I advocate for Israel to punish settlers who commit violence against Palestinians. You don't.
Israel doesn't punish settlers who commit terrorism, its state policy to aid them. The IDF quite regularly backs up their attacks.
Settler Violence = State Violence
Since occupying the West Bank in 1967, Israel has misappropriated more than 2 million dunams of land there for its own purposes, including building and expanding settlements and paving roads for settlers. Some areas have been officially taken over by the state, others through daily acts of...
You want Palestinians to reject Hamas and Hezbollah but don't want Israel to reject their war criminal leadership?
If you back the law, back both sides being held to it, like I do.
Why do you refuse to admit the illegal occupation of Palestine is the problem?
No it's not. You get into more arguments (and more nasty ones) than anybody else. Do you not think that when you accuse dozens and dozens and dozens of people of supporting genocide that they are not going to be offended and push back. Of course they are going to and that is why when I say that you foment discord and are a shit disturber I am correct. It's a clear fact.
You act like its me making the accusations of genocide, not the UN, ICC and ICJ.
But what you actually do do repeatedly and consistently is to post the most disgusting and horrid pictures of mutilated, disfigured, bleeding children. It's sickening and crosses the lines of acceptability. And those pictures are not even verifiable of being current or even from Gaza. You do not have a reputation for honesty, so how can anybody believe that they are what you claim they are without verification. And BTW, it was not I who coined that term of your pics. I don't know who it was but I conscripted it and it was at least 6 months ago and so why the sudden outrage now?
Delete all those pictures, don't post any more of them and there will be no more need for that term to be used again. And I'm not even asking for an apology.
Too funny. So when NAD is referring to an accepted term such as "Food Porn" it means that people want to fuck their food? LOL.
Using "porn" in reference to food or dead children is a metaphor, Geno. It infers an unhealthy obsession. Anybody can see that. You are obsessed with posting these sorts of images over and over. You should stop.
Now you're at the point where you are trying to argue that its genocide, but just not a big one.
Its clear that Israel is working hard so we don't know the numbers.
They've killed more journalists than any real war over the last 100 years to stop news getting out.
Which is why you still think the number of dead is around 45,000, despite being at about 40,000 for almost a year of bombing and starvation.
In the past Israel worked hard to not kill so many that the world would be outraged, this time they are only caring about the US and its support.
So sure, they could kill more but would even Biden and Harris back them if the did?
If the Lancet numbers are close, you're looking at about 200,000-300,000 which would put the Gaza genocide second only to Rwanda.
Which is why the WHO, Amnesty and all human rights organizations also aren't allowed into Gaza. They would count the dead as well.
Such as the hundreds of times that you falsely claim people are supporting genocide for no other reason than they disagree with you on some secondary issue.
You put words into other people's on a daily basis.
What is disgusting is that you continue to support Israel through genocide.
If you don't want to see the photos call for a ceasefire.
Israel has killed enough kids that if one were to post the photo of one a day it would take 40 years to post them all, even based on just the Health Ministry numbers.
Its not a false accusation.
The ICC has issued warrants, the reports are clear and well documented and willful ignorance is not a defence.
45% of Canada believes Israel is committing genocide.
Only 23% disagree.
terb politics forum slants more right than Canada.
Half of Canada backs the claim, that beats out your 'dozens and dozens and dozens'.
Which act did the Knesset pass to make it state policy. They can't make it policy without passing such an act.
The actual source is the refusal of Arab leaders' to accept the existence of an Israeli state since even before 1948.
It's "interesting" (I could use a different term) that you repeatedly claim to be against terrorism on both sides, but when it comes to the Oct.7 terrorist attack by Hamas, here is a perfect example of you attempting to justify it.
All of that, yet not a single word uttered admitting that Hezbollah and Hamas' are terrorists. It's all one-sided to you.
Hypocritical. What has the gov't of Gaza done to punish the Hamas terrorists of Oct.7?
You think Rwanda had a policy paper on genocide? I posted the B'tselem link, read it and tell me where its wrong.
Otherwise you're posting from ignorance, again.
No, the source is your own definition of zionism that states they would take Palestine and create a country called 'Israel' on that land.
Palestinians have the right to self defence against an illegal occupation, including the use of violence.
That is their right, but they do not have the right to target civilians, neither does Israel.
Which is why I keep backing taking both sides to the law.
You still refuse to admit that the occupation of Palestine was and is wrong and that the ICJ and UN have ordered Israel to end it.
Why do you back clear war crimes whenever Israel commits them?
