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Being transferred out of the occupied territories to Israel is a crime against humanity. 7000 Palestinians are in Israeli jails.
No, contrary to your inane bleating, putting criminals in prison isn't a crime against humanity. That's just fucking stupid and typical of the dumb things you say. In a subsequent post you tried denying that Palestinians attack Israelis.

You really are delusional.
 

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No, contrary to your inane bleating, putting criminals in prison isn't a crime against humanity. That's just fucking stupid and typical of the dumb things you say. In a subsequent post you tried denying that Palestinians attack Israelis.

You really are delusional.
I'm only quoting the Geneva Convention. You can check it yourself if you wish.

Palestinians out of the occupied territories:

"Individual or mass forcible transfers and deportations of the civilian
population from occupied territory are prohibited."

7000 Palestinians are in Israeli prisons. This a violation of the Geneva Convention.
 

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I'm only quoting the Geneva Convention. You can check it yourself if you wish.

Palestinians out of the occupied territories:

"Individual or mass forcible transfers and deportations of the civilian
population from occupied territory are prohibited."

7000 Palestinians are in Israeli prisons. This a violation of the Geneva Convention.
That does not apply to criminals in prisons. What a fucking stupid claim! They will return when their sentences are up. They lost their rights by being criminal.
 

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That does not apply to criminals in prisons. What a fucking stupid claim! They will return when their sentences are up. They lost their rights by being criminal.
Unless you have a source providing that language in the Geneva Convention, that is false.
 

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Unless you have a source providing that language in the Geneva Convention, that is false.
Are they returned to the Palestinian territories at the end of their sentences? If so that's not population transfer.

You lack any common sense and no one need take anything you post seriously if this is the kind of nonsense you post.
 

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Are they returned to the Palestinian territories at the end of their sentences? If so that's not population transfer.

You lack any common sense and no one need take anything you post seriously if this is the kind of nonsense you post.
When you can provide something I'll review it. Until then we are left with the explicit language and direction of the Geneva Convention.
 

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When you can provide something I'll review it. Until then we are left with the explicit language and direction of the Geneva Convention.
All I'm going to do is laugh at your dumb fucking claim that incarcerating criminals violates the Geneva convention. You say really stupid things. You have made yourself into a clown
 

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Now that you've stated you accept the work of B'teselem, are you also prepared to accept their findings on Israeli actions?...
Are you willing to accept their view that settlers and zionists are not legitimate targets?

Of course you won't because that would mean you would have to admit that many Palestinian attacks (including the ones on Jews in the Mandate) are terrorism.
 

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This is addressed by the Geneva conventions:...
So are you still pretending that a huge proportion of Palestinian attacks are against civilian targets and illegal under the GC and all other international law?
 

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Being transferred out of the occupied territories to Israel is a crime against humanity. 7000 Palestinians are in Israeli jails.
Sorry but that has to be the most retarded argument I've ever seen (and I've read franky's posts).


The GC talks about DEPORTATIONS, not about jail sentences. All of the prisoners will be released to their homes in the West Bank or Gaza once their sentences are up.
 

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Are you willing to accept their view that settlers and zionists are not legitimate targets?
As long as they act as civilians, not militants, they are not legitimate targets for violence even though they are all illegally displacing Palestinians.

For instance, if a settler is part of a CSC, its not at all clear if they are any longer a civilian.
Under Israeli military law, CSCs are settlers armed and trained by the military to protect their settlements on behalf of the army. While CSCs are given policing powers and work in coordination with army forces, they are appointed by fellow settlers and directly employed by settlements.

However, according to Yesh Din's chronology and analysis, the Israeli military's declared goal of employing CSCs to protect Israeli civilians conceals a more important function the CSCs serve: expanding Israel's borders.

"Not only do they [CSCs] harass these Palestinian farmers, but they also seek to expand the areas under their control and annex as much of that land as possible," Pasovsky told Al Jazeera.
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/10/israel-army-expanding-illegal-settlements-161012071618171.html

They are even paid by the Israeli military.
The Ministry of Defence, which gives money to settlements to pay CSC salaries, was not able to provide the current number of CSCs, nor was the Israeli army.
Would you agree?
 

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Does that mean that you are going to admit that many Palestinian attacks target civilians and are therefore acts of terrorism?
Would you also agree that Palestinian civilians are killed about 10 times as often as Israeli civilians, yet you only ever complain about Israeli's being attacked?
 

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Sorry but that has to be the most retarded argument I've ever seen (and I've read franky's posts).


The GC talks about DEPORTATIONS, not about jail sentences. All of the prisoners will be released to their homes in the West Bank or Gaza once their sentences are up.
Incorrect. The language specifically states "forced transfers and deportations". Not simply deportation. 7000 Palestinians forcibly transferred to Israel in violation of the Geneva Convention.
 

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Incorrect. The language specifically states "forced transfers and deportations". Not simply deportation. 7000 Palestinians forcibly transferred to Israel in violation of the Geneva Convention.
^^^^ refuted spam from a troll

That clearly doesn't apply to criminals who are incarcerated and who will be released back to the West Bank upon completion of their sentences.

You have lost ALL credibility spamming this garbage.
 

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^^^^ refuted spam from a troll

That clearly doesn't apply to criminals who are incarcerated and who will be released back to the West Bank upon completion of their sentences.

You have lost ALL credibility spamming this garbage.
When you provide this "clear" language I will review it. Until then we are left with the precise language of the Geneva Convention that prohibits the forced transfer or deportation.
 

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When you provide this "clear" language I will review it. Until then we are left with the precise language of the Geneva Convention that prohibits the forced transfer or deportation.
You are not an authority on the Convention, your OPINION that incarcerating someone is population transfer is laughable, and you have made a fool of yourself.

You are a time wasting troll and from these idiotic posts we can conclude that you should in all cases be ignored.
 

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You are not an authority on the Convention, your OPINION that incarcerating someone is population transfer is laughable, and you have made a fool of yourself.

You are a time wasting troll and from these idiotic posts we can conclude that you should in all cases be ignored.


This is the Geneva Convention verbatim:

Palestinians out of the occupied territories:

"Individual or mass forcible transfers and deportations of the civilian
population from occupied territory are prohibited."

7000 Palestinians are in Israeli prisons. This a violation of the Geneva Convention.

As is abundantly clear, no exceptions are listed.
 

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This is the Geneva Convention verbatim:

Palestinians out of the occupied territories:

"Individual or mass forcible transfers and deportations of the civilian
population from occupied territory are prohibited."

7000 Palestinians are in Israeli prisons. This a violation of the Geneva Convention.

As is abundantly clear, no exceptions are listed.
Sorry but a prison sentence is not "deportation". You are simply making a fool of yourself.
 

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As long as they act as civilians, not militants, they are not legitimate targets for violence even though they are all illegally displacing Palestinians....
Funny but you said:

Frankfooter said:
Palestinians should have confined their violence only to Zionists
And the rest of your post is just justification for terrorism (as usual). You clearly identified that the CSCs are security guards for settlements. You are also going directly against what B'Tselem says about the civilian status of settlers.
 
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