Israel at war

[GerryB]

Is that like shack coming over and saying he had to steal your home because you insulted him here?
Nobody has to invade and occupy any other country.

Are you ignoring the fact that Israel was attacked by multiple armies multiple times ?
Check the map of Europe after WWII and aftermath of German invasions ....they
lost a lot of land...same applies here...Israel got attacked - attackers lost land, no
occupation, all according to the international law

 

[GerryB]

Territory that was not Israel. It is a violation of Article 49 of the 4th Geneva Convention. Hence illegal per international law.
"The Occupying Power shall not deport or transfer parts of its own civilian population into the territory it occupies."

The territory was under Jordanian occupation, they lost. The land is under Israel control now. All clear to me.

 

[GerryB]

Territory that was not Israel. It is a violation of Article 49 of the 4th Geneva Convention. Hence illegal per international law.
"The Occupying Power shall not deport or transfer parts of its own civilian population into the territory it occupies."

Check Kaliningrad and tell me who's land it is now and who's land it was before WWII

 

[Klatuu]

The territory was under Jordanian occupation, they lost. The land is under Israel control now. All clear to me.

Ignorance is bliss for cowardly Ziontogists. Make Aliyah. Don’t be a wannabe and windbag Ziontologist.

 

[Leimonis]

Check Kaliningrad and tell me who's land it is now and who's land it was before WWII

And who had enough brains to get on with their life and never complain about it.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

The territory was under Jordanian occupation, they lost. The land is under Israel control now. All clear to me.

That is why I cited Article 49 of the 4th Geneva Convention. An occupying force moving its civilian population into occupied territory or displacing the local population in occupied territory is illegal.

 

[GerryB]

Ignorance is bliss for cowardly Ziontogists. Make Aliyah. Don’t be a wannabe and windbag Ziontologist.

Why you don't make Aliya to the country of your origin ? I mean, you live on the occupied land now, how can you sleep at night ?

 

[Frankfooter]

Israel did not but accepted partition plan, Arabs did not and started the war .....now they cry that they lost every single time

Cool story but not accurate and not relevant to the situation today.
Zionism's goal was always all of Palestine, from river to sea.

So you admit that now that Israel has attacked every country in the neighbourhood they should never expect peace from them, correct?
What do you think Israel's endgame really is here?

 

[Frankfooter]

Are you ignoring the fact that Israel was attacked by multiple armies multiple times ?
Check the map of Europe after WWII and aftermath of German invasions ....they
lost a lot of land...same applies here...Israel got attacked - attackers lost land, no
occupation, all according to the international law

Are you ignoring that Palestine has been attacked multiple times, along with how many other countries Israel has attacked over the years?
The international community agreed to borders after WWII the same way they just told Israel to get the fuck out of Palestine.

Do you think Israel is above the law and that they will only answer to violence now?

 

[GerryB]

That is why I cited Article 49 of the 4th Geneva Convention. An occupying force moving its civilian population into occupied territory or displacing the local population in occupied territory is illegal.

And how are they displaced exactly ? What I see they are all in the same places they were before 1967 ? None of their cities and villages on the West Bank were displaced or shut down

 

[GerryB]

Cool story but not accurate and not relevant to the situation today.
Zionism's goal was always all of Palestine, from river to sea.

So you admit that now that Israel has attacked every country in the neighbourhood they should never expect peace from them, correct?
What do you think Israel's endgame really is here?

I see more slogans. You have tendency to get everything in REVERSE. Israel was the one attacked by multiple Arab armies not the
other way around.

The end game is that Israel is on its ancestral land and will stay there to the end, whatever it may be.

 

[Frankfooter]

And how are they displaced exactly ? What I see they are all in the same places they were before 1967 ? None of their cities and villages on the West Bank were displaced or shut down

If you back aliyah you must also back Palestinian refugees having this same right to return to their ancestral homelands.
Correct?

 

[Frankfooter]

I see more slogans. You have tendency to get everything in REVERSE. Israel was the one attacked by multiple Arab armies not the
other way around.

The end game is that Israel is on its ancestral land and will stay there to the end, whatever it may be.

How could Israel be attacked even before they were a country?
It was Palestine that was attacked and colonized.

 

[GerryB]

Are you ignoring that Palestine has been attacked multiple times, along with how many other countries Israel has attacked over the years?
- There is no country Palestine to be attacked. That is a territory that was divided with accordance to partition plan. I keep repeating that
and you keep missing it.

The international community agreed to borders after WWII the same way they just told Israel to get the fuck out of Palestine.
- No such thing "to get a f#$% out of Palestine". international community came up with partition plan. jews accepted, Arabs
did not and declared war instead, it is pretty simple if you remove your Jew hatred from a picture for a minute or two

Do you think Israel is above the law and that they will only answer to violence now?
- What law ? Israel is not in violation of international law. These statements from UN are purely political
ones.

 

[mandrill]

That is why I cited Article 49 of the 4th Geneva Convention. An occupying force moving its civilian population into occupied territory or displacing the local population in occupied territory is illegal.

No.

Because Britain was the mandatory power and allowed the Jews to legally immigrate to "Palestine".

It was perfectly legal immigration.

Then Britain left and offered to divide "Palestine" between Jews and Arabs. The Jews accepted. So they were the legal owners because the previous legal owner - Britain - gave the Jews legal status.

 

[danmand]

The end game is that Israel is on its ancestral land and will stay there to the end, whatever it may be.

It would be wonderful, if they could live in peace and harmony with their neighbors.

Unfortunately, currently bombing four of it's neighbors and soon one more is not a recipe for peace and harmony, and will, I fear, tragically make life untenable in Israel. Large amount of dual citizens have already left (I was on a fully packed plane out of there oct 10 last year), and GDP is dropping fast.

 

[GerryB]

How could Israel be attacked even before they were a country?
It was Palestine that was attacked and colonized.

Israel got attacked on its inception and then many times after. Well documented.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

And how are they displaced exactly ? What I see they are all in the same places they were before 1967 ? None of their cities and villages on the West Bank were displaced or shut down

They are being evicted from their homes and land is being confiscated. All of this is illegal. It is one of the two. If it is Israeli sovereign borders, then they are citizens. But they do not have the right to vote. So it is not Israeli borders, it is occupied territory. So the 4th Geneva convention rules apply.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

No.

Because Britain was the mandatory power and allowed the Jews to legally immigrate to "Palestine".

It was perfectly legal immigration.

Then Britain left and offered to divide "Palestine" between Jews and Arabs. The Jews accepted. So they were the legal owners because the previous legal owner - Britain - gave the Jews legal status.

This has nothing to do with what I said. The West Bank and Golan Heights are occupied territory and building settlements in occupied territory is in violation of international law.

 

[GerryB]

If you back aliyah you must also back Palestinian refugees having this same right to return to their ancestral homelands.
Correct?

Israel DID NOT force them out, their Arab compatriots from invading Arab countries encouraged them to leave so they can finish off
the Jews quickly (well documented). But that didn't come to fruition.