Israel at war
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So ISIS confirmed they were responsible for the twin blasts in Iran yesterday.
If it wasn't for Hamas, Israel could just sit back and watch the show, while the Islamic radicals kill each other...
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And if it wasn’t for Israel’s racism, apartheid, ethnic cleansing and occupation, tens of thousands of people would still be alive.
This is also not complicated.
Please give us a list of all the countries in the world that give non-citizens the right to vote, let alone have ALL of the same rights as actual citizens.
Hey fringe fanatic, get this. Puerto Ricans are considered American citizens yet they ARE NOT allowed to vote in American elections.
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Voting rights of United States citizens who live in Puerto Rico, like the voting rights of residents of other United States territories, differ from those of United States citizens in each of the fifty states and the District of Columbia. Residents of Puerto Rico and other U.S. territories do not have voting representation in the United States Congress, and are not entitled to electoral votes for president. The United States Constitution grants congressional voting representation to U.S. states, which Puerto Rico and other U.S. territories are not, specifying that members of Congress shall be elected by direct popular vote and that the president and the vice president shall be elected by electors chosen by the states.
It's time to start your campaign against American apartheid. You've been silent on this serious issue. Some citizens are being discriminated against. Why have you not spoken out? Why do you only complain about Israel?
Yet you want Israel to give full rights and the vote to non-citizens? No wonder that everybody mocks you and nobody takes you seriously. You are one funny joke.
I'll wait for that list. Until then you can....
Israel continues to crumble from the inside out. You can’t put Humpty Dumpty back together again.
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You might as well call for a leprechaun, unicorn and mermaid all together at once. You know there will be no ceasefire while Israel holds the upper hand.
It's a Hamas surrender or genocide.
Once more you have proven that you are calling for the deaths of 500,000 Palestinians. That is your stated position.
This is not what I posted. It is what you fabricated:
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It said 30,034 dead.
So I only need another 469,966 dead Palestinians until I'm happy.
Here's my post, directed to you. In this thread, post #12,978. Proving once again that when you are losing a debate you have no compunction to resort to lying.
The purpose of the poll was to compare support for Hamas on the West Bank vs. support for Hamas in Gaza. The support in Gaza was significantly lower than in the WB.
Now please try to stay on topic Little Johnny. You always stray. Why do you think that Hamas has less support in Gaza than in the WB?
If there were no resistance they would not have been moving at the current pace, you are contradicting yourself.
Its simple, war is expensive, israel is small. If they could they would want to finish this in two weeks, which is what i think their original plan was.
Do you think what's happening now is better than the status quo?
So in your mind, it sounds like the current death toll and suffering is worth those accomplishments.
Thanks. I shall endeavor to remember.
LOL. You got me.
Israel’s changing of tactic is precisely due to their inability to root out hamas by occupying all critical grounds. Now the strain on logistics and economy is too much to carry on, they go for a more frugal approach. The so called precision is simply assassinating high ranking hamas leaders, which doesnt work because hamas is not organized like that. Heck israel killed the founder of hamas and it didnt do any damage to the organization.
You are afraid to answer, so you deflect instead. You need to answer before you ask a question.
Do you think that Oct. 7 was a smart thing to do?
Vs the choice of 4m Pali refugees from the Israeli genocide? Seriously? Of course they would
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Because this way, it will take so long that you still get to see 500,000 Palestinians die.
All of your suggestions are idiotic. All of them result in more deaths in gaza.
Israel will not agree to a ceasefire at this point.
So the only two realistic options are, Hamas keeps fighting and the violence goes on indefinitely or Hamas surrenders.
Thus far your choice has always meant that you endorse the deaths of 500,000 Palestinians.
That is impossible no matter how often you want to repeat it. Hamas controls everything in Gaza. Most importantly to them, is that they control the message.
Something else you can repeat as often as you like.
That only proves that the numbers are so close because they accept the numbers given to them by Hamas Health at face value.
You can be dismissive, as you usually are when you don't want to answer something, but there must be a reason for the discrepancy. That was the point of the poll.
The reason is because Gazans are getting sick and tired of what Hamas is putting them through. Poverty, oppression, misappropriated aid and war and death.
They are being lead by Hamas................right down the garden path.
Gazans are fed up with Hamas. Actually speaking out against Hamas is a first and bold step. There is more chance of insurrection than a Hamas victory.
That is the meaning of the poll.
This is what Kadish actually retweets and it says nothing except that Israel will distribute supplies through local authorities that are clan based - which appears a perfectly good idea.
So being pro-Palestinian and not pro-Israel is neutral? Whatever you're selling, nobody is buying. That was an insane comment.
And if you are anti-terror and Hamas is terror and you hate Hamas, surely you want them to surrender. Getting rid of Hamas and thereby ending the war is the best outcome for someone pro-Palestinian.
Do you want Hamas to surrender?
Israeli defence minister outlines new phase in Gaza war (msn.com)
CAIRO/GAZA/JERUSALEM (Reuters) -Defence Minister Yoav Gallant on Thursday outlined a new stage of Israel's war in Gaza: a more targeted approach in the north and further pursuit of Hamas leaders in the south while Israel seeks to free remaining hostages held by Hamas.
Under international pressure to shift to less intense combat operations and in the face of economic challenges, Israel has been drawing down its forces in Gaza to allow thousands of reservists to return to their jobs.
Gallant said in a statement that operations in the north would include raids, demolishing tunnels, air and ground strikes, and special forces operations.
In the south, where most of Gaza's 2.3 million population now live in tents and other temporary shelters, the focus would be on wiping out Hamas leaders and rescuing some 130 Israeli hostages remaining of some 240 abducted on Oct. 7.
After the war Hamas would no longer control Gaza, Gallant said, adding that the enclave would be run by Palestinian bodies so long as there was no threat to Israel.
Aiming to help prevent the conflict from expanding, U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken was set to travel on Thursday to the Middle East for a week of diplomacy, the State Department said.
Earlier on Thursday Israeli shelling of the Gaza Strip killed more than 20 Palestinians, including 16 in Khan Younis in a southern coastal area packed with people who had fled from other parts of the enclave, Gaza health officials said.
Among the dead were nine children, they said. Separately five Palestinians were killed in an Israeli airstrike on a car in Al-Nusseirat refugee camp, health officials told Reuters. Gaza residents said Israeli planes and tanks had also bombarded two other refugee camps, prompting many to head south.
Israel's war against Hamas is nearing the three-month mark amid international concern that the conflict is spreading beyond Gaza, drawing in the Israeli-occupied West Bank, Hezbollah forces on the Lebanon-Israel border, and Red Sea shipping lanes.
The concern grew after a drone strike on Tuesday killed Hamas deputy leader Saleh al-Arouri in Lebanon's capital Beirut. He was buried in the Palestinian camp of Shatila in the city on Thursday, amid throngs of mourners launching volleys of gunfire.
Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah vowed on Wednesday that his powerful Iran-backed Shi'ite militia "cannot be silent" following the killing, but he made no concrete threats to act against Israel in support of Hamas.
Hezbollah has been embroiled in nearly daily exchanges of shelling with Israel across Lebanon's southern border since the Gaza war began.
Israel neither confirmed nor denied assassinating Arouri. It has promised to annihilate Hamas following the Islamist group's assault in southern Israel on Oct. 7 in which Israel says 1,200 people were killed.
Israel's ground and air blitz has laid waste to Gaza. The total recorded Palestinian death toll had reached 22,438 by Thursday - almost 1% of its 2.3 million population, the Gaza health ministry said.
Israel has said it has killed 8,000 fighters in Gaza.
Adding to the violence in the region, two explosions on Wednesday killed nearly 100 people during a memorial ceremony for the late Iranian General Qasem Soleimani at the cemetery in southeastern Iran where he is buried. The militant Sunni Muslim group Islamic State claimed responsibility.
In Thursday's reported strike in Al-Mawasi on the western side of Khan Younis, Israeli shells landed near tents erected in the area by displaced people, health ministry officials said.
Hezbollah affiliated civil defence member sprays water at a damaged site in the aftermath of what security sources said was an Israeli drone strike in Beirut's southern suburbs of Dahiyeh, Lebanon January 3, 2024. REUTERS/Mohamed Azakir© Thomson Reuters
Footage on Palestinian media showed several bodies wrapped in blankets inside a hospital morgue in Khan Younis.
"Nowhere is safe in Gaza. Wherever you go, there are strikes. In the country, next to the camps, in Al-Mawasi. There is no safe space," said Bahaa Abu Hatab, the brother of one of the dead.
The Palestinian Red Crescent said its headquarters in Khan Younis was hit, killing one person and wounding others.
In its daily briefing, the Israeli military said Israeli warplanes killed three Hamas militants who had tried to detonate explosive next to ground troops, and Israeli soldiers killed two more.
Later the military said soldiers had destroyed an underground military compound on the Gaza Strip coast with a weapons cache including mortars, grenades, and RPG missiles.
MUD ADDS TO MISERY
Israeli bombardments have flattened much of the densely populated enclave and created a humanitarian disaster. Most Gazans have been left homeless, with food shortages threatening famine.
On Thursday, people poured out of Al-Bureij, Al-Maghazi and Al-Nusseirat refugee camps following attacks, with some families riding on donkey carts loaded with mattresses, luggage and children. Rain has turned earth to mud, adding to the misery.
Over the course of the war, the Israeli military has expressed regret for civilian deaths but it accuses Hamas of operating in densely populated areas and using civilians as human shields, a charge the group denies.
CAIRO/GAZA/JERUSALEM (Reuters) -Defence Minister Yoav Gallant on Thursday outlined a new stage of Israel's war in Gaza: a more targeted approach in the north and further pursuit of Hamas leaders in the south while Israel seeks to free remaining hostages held by Hamas.
Under international pressure to shift to less intense combat operations and in the face of economic challenges, Israel has been drawing down its forces in Gaza to allow thousands of reservists to return to their jobs.
Gallant said in a statement that operations in the north would include raids, demolishing tunnels, air and ground strikes, and special forces operations.
In the south, where most of Gaza's 2.3 million population now live in tents and other temporary shelters, the focus would be on wiping out Hamas leaders and rescuing some 130 Israeli hostages remaining of some 240 abducted on Oct. 7.
After the war Hamas would no longer control Gaza, Gallant said, adding that the enclave would be run by Palestinian bodies so long as there was no threat to Israel.
Aiming to help prevent the conflict from expanding, U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken was set to travel on Thursday to the Middle East for a week of diplomacy, the State Department said.
Earlier on Thursday Israeli shelling of the Gaza Strip killed more than 20 Palestinians, including 16 in Khan Younis in a southern coastal area packed with people who had fled from other parts of the enclave, Gaza health officials said.
Among the dead were nine children, they said. Separately five Palestinians were killed in an Israeli airstrike on a car in Al-Nusseirat refugee camp, health officials told Reuters. Gaza residents said Israeli planes and tanks had also bombarded two other refugee camps, prompting many to head south.
Israel's war against Hamas is nearing the three-month mark amid international concern that the conflict is spreading beyond Gaza, drawing in the Israeli-occupied West Bank, Hezbollah forces on the Lebanon-Israel border, and Red Sea shipping lanes.
The concern grew after a drone strike on Tuesday killed Hamas deputy leader Saleh al-Arouri in Lebanon's capital Beirut. He was buried in the Palestinian camp of Shatila in the city on Thursday, amid throngs of mourners launching volleys of gunfire.
Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah vowed on Wednesday that his powerful Iran-backed Shi'ite militia "cannot be silent" following the killing, but he made no concrete threats to act against Israel in support of Hamas.
Hezbollah has been embroiled in nearly daily exchanges of shelling with Israel across Lebanon's southern border since the Gaza war began.
Israel neither confirmed nor denied assassinating Arouri. It has promised to annihilate Hamas following the Islamist group's assault in southern Israel on Oct. 7 in which Israel says 1,200 people were killed.
Israel's ground and air blitz has laid waste to Gaza. The total recorded Palestinian death toll had reached 22,438 by Thursday - almost 1% of its 2.3 million population, the Gaza health ministry said.
Israel has said it has killed 8,000 fighters in Gaza.
Adding to the violence in the region, two explosions on Wednesday killed nearly 100 people during a memorial ceremony for the late Iranian General Qasem Soleimani at the cemetery in southeastern Iran where he is buried. The militant Sunni Muslim group Islamic State claimed responsibility.
In Thursday's reported strike in Al-Mawasi on the western side of Khan Younis, Israeli shells landed near tents erected in the area by displaced people, health ministry officials said.
Hezbollah affiliated civil defence member sprays water at a damaged site in the aftermath of what security sources said was an Israeli drone strike in Beirut's southern suburbs of Dahiyeh, Lebanon January 3, 2024. REUTERS/Mohamed Azakir© Thomson Reuters
Footage on Palestinian media showed several bodies wrapped in blankets inside a hospital morgue in Khan Younis.
"Nowhere is safe in Gaza. Wherever you go, there are strikes. In the country, next to the camps, in Al-Mawasi. There is no safe space," said Bahaa Abu Hatab, the brother of one of the dead.
The Palestinian Red Crescent said its headquarters in Khan Younis was hit, killing one person and wounding others.
In its daily briefing, the Israeli military said Israeli warplanes killed three Hamas militants who had tried to detonate explosive next to ground troops, and Israeli soldiers killed two more.
Later the military said soldiers had destroyed an underground military compound on the Gaza Strip coast with a weapons cache including mortars, grenades, and RPG missiles.
MUD ADDS TO MISERY
Israeli bombardments have flattened much of the densely populated enclave and created a humanitarian disaster. Most Gazans have been left homeless, with food shortages threatening famine.
On Thursday, people poured out of Al-Bureij, Al-Maghazi and Al-Nusseirat refugee camps following attacks, with some families riding on donkey carts loaded with mattresses, luggage and children. Rain has turned earth to mud, adding to the misery.
Over the course of the war, the Israeli military has expressed regret for civilian deaths but it accuses Hamas of operating in densely populated areas and using civilians as human shields, a charge the group denies.
