Israel at war

mandrill

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What does that look like to you?

Is that the current leadership surrendering?
How much of it?
Who counts as "leadership"?
Is that everyone who has expressed support for Hamas surrendering?
How much support is enough support to count here?
Most of the in situ leadership will be trapped in Gaza and killed. If they're in the tunnels, the tunnels will be blown in, so there's no egress. Some will undoubtedly disguise themselves and slip out.

The hostages will be murdered by Hamas and will not be rescued.

The Hamas leadership outside Gaza will be betrayed and assassinated 1 by 1 by the Mossad. They'll still be dying now and again 10 years from now.

The entire enclave of Gaza has been brainwashed to support Hamas and hate Israel. Some will change horses after the Israelis stop fighting. Others will silently hate. Like all defeated peoples. It would take a whole generation - maybe 2 or 3 - to change their opinions.
What happens to Palestine after that?
Are there elections?
Does Israel rule it directly again?
Do they install a puppet government?
Best damn question in this entire 12k post thread. No one anywhere has a decent answer. Maybe because there truly isn't one.
I think for some at least, this is the issue with the "Israel is only in there to defeat Hamas" narrative?
It's unclear what people mean by that. (And I suspect different people mean very different things.)
A dumb question: -

The IDF is going to kill Hamas until there's no one left alive or outside captivity. They're about halfway there and they have time and resources to finish the work.
 

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Most of the in situ leadership will be trapped in Gaza and killed. If they're in the tunnels, the tunnels will be blown in, so there's no egress. Some will undoubtedly disguise themselves and slip out.

The hostages will be murdered by Hamas and will not be rescued.

The Hamas leadership outside Gaza will be betrayed and assassinated 1 by 1 by the Mossad. They'll still be dying now and again 10 years from now.

The entire enclave of Gaza has been brainwashed to support Hamas and hate Israel. Some will change horses after the Israelis stop fighting. Others will silently hate. Like all defeated peoples. It would take a whole generation - maybe 2 or 3 - to change their opinions.


Best damn question in this entire 12k post thread. No one anywhere has a decent answer. Maybe because there truly isn't one.

A dumb question: -

The IDF is going to kill Hamas until there's no one left alive or outside captivity. They're about halfway there and they have time and resources to finish the work.
Sorry dont see that happening. Israels offensive seems to be running out of steam. Israel can certainly transition to just assassinating leadership, but i doubt Hamas works that way. Time will tell, if Israel makes no more significant progress on the ground in Gaza, they are in trouble.
 
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That is the greatest non-answer gibberish if there ever was one.

Of the 22000+ how many are Hamas? If you dont have a number then you are pretty much committing genocide, in the hopes that a few Hamas people will die in the process. You dont even know how many you are killing and you are talking about measuring Hamas' ability to commit attacks? How exactly would you do that?
Of course you reject the answer because your question is bullshit and disingenuous.

But since you're so amazing and intelligent you can really share your knowledge. If you were in charge of Israel, how would you respond to Hamas' atrocities on the 7th?
 
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Sorry dont see that happening. Israels offensive seems to be running out of steam. Israel can certainly transition to just assassinating leadership, but i doubt Hamas works that way. Time will tell, if Israel makes no more significant progress on the ground in Gaza, they are in trouble.
Running out of steam? Interesting interpretation to Israel becoming more precise in their strikes.
 
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Most of the in situ leadership will be trapped in Gaza and killed. If they're in the tunnels, the tunnels will be blown in, so there's no egress. Some will undoubtedly disguise themselves and slip out.

The hostages will be murdered by Hamas and will not be rescued.

The Hamas leadership outside Gaza will be betrayed and assassinated 1 by 1 by the Mossad. They'll still be dying now and again 10 years from now.

The entire enclave of Gaza has been brainwashed to support Hamas and hate Israel. Some will change horses after the Israelis stop fighting. Others will silently hate. Like all defeated peoples. It would take a whole generation - maybe 2 or 3 - to change their opinions.


Best damn question in this entire 12k post thread. No one anywhere has a decent answer. Maybe because there truly isn't one.

A dumb question: -

The IDF is going to kill Hamas until there's no one left alive or outside captivity. They're about halfway there and they have time and resources to finish the work.
Delusional.
 

mandrill

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Sorry dont see that happening. Israels offensive seems to be running out of steam. Israel can certainly transition to just assassinating leadership, but i doubt Hamas works that way. Time will tell, if Israel makes no more significant progress on the ground in Gaza, they are in trouble.
No. They're still churning. Hamas can never win this type of war. The Israelis have artillery, tac air and tanks. Hamas has fat fucks with AK's.

The end is predictable. Israel predicts that it will take a long time because they are going to go through Gaza house by house looking for contraband and Hamas guys and that's pretty time consuming.
 

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How do these wackos make in the country?

Video- Torrance, California Imam Mohammad S. Ahmed During Friday Sermon: The Children Of Israel Have A Long History Of Wickedness, Murder, And

Occupation; Bursts Into Tears: What Have We Done Wrong To Make Allah Not Choose Us To Be Martyrs Like The Palestinians?


 
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How do these wackos make in the country?

Video- Torrance, California Imam Mohammad S. Ahmed During Friday Sermon: The Children Of Israel Have A Long History Of Wickedness, Murder, And

Occupation; Bursts Into Tears: What Have We Done Wrong To Make Allah Not Choose Us To Be Martyrs Like The Palestinians?


What a meshuggener! :LOL:
 
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