Israel at war

WyattEarp

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We've been to Israel twice. It is like an armed camp. Guess it has to be when surrounded by 250mm enemies.
I understand the image you are painting and it's real.

However, I think most of those 250 mm Muslims go about their business with little regard for Israel. The problem for a long time has been governments financing unemployable young men to carry out violence against Israel.
 

mandrill

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He's a loudmouth and more arrogant than most (or all) politicians. I just think arrogance goes with the territory.
He's also senile, not the smartest, a narcissist and has little government experience, aside from the 4 year dysfunctional freak show of his presidency.
 
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mandrill

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I understand the image you are painting and it's real.

However, I think most of those 250 mm Muslims go about their business with little regard for Israel. The problem for a long time has been governments financing unemployable young men to carry out violence against Israel.
My understanding is that Hamas runs Gaza as an armed ideological dictatorship and suppresses opposition ruthlessly.

And Hamas survives through financial backing from Iran and other shit disturbers.

And the Gazans cannot leave Gaza. They are trapped.

So Gaza is a permanent threat to Israel. And yes, most Gazans would probably want to move to Cairo and start a deli or a shoe store there and forget the entire mess. But they can't.
 

WyattEarp

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Well, at least I cannot disagree entirely with you on this post except that I don't believe arrogance comes with the territory and yes, there has been some arrogant POTUS but not all.
No offense to Canada, but I never met a person who entered their family's legacy business who didn't believe they had some special talents conferred at birth. In the business of politics, the trick is to make it look like you don't believe that.
 

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mandrill

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This is where the nasty business of negotiating cash for hostages could become problematic. Some might object to this statement as criticism of the Biden Administration, but it's simply the general nature of hostage negotiations...........damned if you do, damned if you don't.

I will pray for their safe return home.
Does Israel have a "no negotiations" policy?

I'm guessing it does. Otherwise, hostage fees would eat up a chunk of the Israeli state budget.
 

WyattEarp

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Does Israel have a "no negotiations" policy?

I'm guessing it does. Otherwise, hostage fees would eat up a chunk of the Israeli state budget.
I didn't mention this because it has to be the case.

Barring a daring raid, I'm not sure how Israeli hostages are returned.
 

mandrill

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I think most business people here would admit that money is fungible.
I guess. OTOH $6B given a few weeks ago is but a drop in the bucket considering Iran's overall budget.
 

WyattEarp

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I guess. OTOH $6B given a few weeks ago is but a drop in the bucket considering Iran's overall budget.
Hmmm.........it doesn't sound like a lot in Western budget terms, but it is almost 2% of Iranian GDP. The mullahs haven't exactly ushered in an era of prosperity.

So that's about $40 billion in relative Canadian terms for reference.

I'm not blaming the Biden Administration for Gaza, but I don't think there is any hope for rapprochement with Iran. I just don't buy Blinken's explanation of how the money is for this and not for that.
 
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