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Frankfooter

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No. I'm gloating at exposing your hypocrisy and empty words.
You're gloating over killing 10,000 children for your colonial racist, zionist movement.
Such a tough and manly war, you really are showing those women and children who is the toughest. Don't forget to blame the children for being born in Gaza.
 

Frankfooter

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So, you're publicly calling me a Piece of Shit?

You're the biggest liar on the board.

You're just like the Hamas vermin. You can dish it out but you can't take it. Bullies are afraid to be bullied. Stop your continuous lying and dishonest debating.
You're going all Benjamin Reese, shack.
I said POS, person of sewage, person of stupidity, problem of society, particularly offensive stooge, paranoid old shack.

As of today, Israel has now killed more of captives than Hamas.
Congrats.
 
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DinkleMouse

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Wha, wha, wha.

If only Oct. 7 hadn't happened.
This is one of the most disgusting posts I've ever seen on any forum I've ever been on. 300,000+ dying, and you don't refute it, you just say "wha wha wha". You should be ashamed of yourself.

I reported it for violating basic human decency. I won't be participating in these forums any further if that type of behaviour is considered acceptable. The trolls will celebrate that I'm sure, but I find this abhorrent. No one should be laughing or making jokes or showing zero sympathy for 300,000 lives. If you had refuted the claim, that might be one thing, but that reply is absolutely disgusting.

Edit: On second thought, far too many of the posts on here seen to be primarily who can gaslight the hardest. Far too many people are content to think they're experts on everything, to pretend they didn't get proven wrong time and time again, and to keep on being disgusting humans.

Even in the review section there's an increasing number of posters who just seem to want to lord their experiences over others and not contribute. Yeah, I'm looking at you EPDA, though you're not alone. There's almost no value here for me anymore. I have better ways to spend my time. Enjoy your childish bickering.
 
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mandrill

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This is one of the most disgusting posts I've ever seen on any forum I've ever been on. 300,000+ dying, and you don't refute it, you just say "wha wha wha". You should be ashamed of yourself.

I reported it for violating basic human decency. I won't be participating in these forums any further if that type of behaviour is considered acceptable. The trolls will celebrate that I'm sure, but I find this abhorrent. No one should be laughing or making jokes or showing zero sympathy for 300,000 lives. If you had refuted the claim, that might be one thing, but that reply is absolutely disgusting.
Bear in mind those are Hamas-generated figures and the term is vague enough to range from stomach flu to cholera. I think that's why Shack gave the dismissive reaction.
 
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Bear in mind those are Hamas-generated figures and the term is vague enough to range from stomach flu to cholera. I think that's why Shack gave the dismissive reaction.
He's been dismissive about every report of dead or dying that's been recieved, not just this one. It's hardly the first disgusting post he, and others, have made and I for one have had enough of it.

I'm out. Best wishes to those of you who aren't gaslighting asshats.
 

mandrill

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He's been dismissive about every report of dead or dying that's been recieved, not just this one. It's hardly the first disgusting post he, and others, have made and I for one have had enough of it.

I'm out. Best wishes to those of you who aren't gaslighting asshats.
Have a nice weekend.
 
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Israeli military says its troops shot and killed three hostages by mistake
IDF identifies hostages killed as Yotam Haim, Alon Shamriz and Samer El-Talalqa, saying they were mistakenly believed to be a threat

The Israeli military has said that its troops shot and killed three hostages being held by Hamas after mistakenly identifying them as a threat during fighting in a battle-torn neighbourhood of Gaza City.

The announcement on Friday came amid heavy fighting across the embattled territory that led to an influx of dead and wounded into hospitals in Deir al-Balah, Khan Younis and Rafah.


Separately, the Qatar-based television network Al Jazeera said that one of its journalists was killed and and another was injured in a drone strike while reporting in Khan Younis.

The army identified the three killed hostages as Yotam Haim and Alon Shamriz, who were taken from Kfar Aza kibbutz during Hamas’s 7 October attack, and Samer El-Talalqa, taken from Nir Am kibbutz.

The hostages were killed in the Gaza City area of Shejaiya, where troops have been engaged in fierce fighting with Hamas militants in recent days.

The exact circumstances of their deaths were not immediately clear. In a statement late on Friday, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) said: “During combat in Shejaiya, the IDF mistakenly identified three Israeli hostages as a threat. As a result, the troops fired toward them and they were killed.”

Army spokesperson Rear Adm Daniel Hagari said it was believed that the three had either fled their captors or been abandoned. “Perhaps in the last few days, or over the past day – we still don’t know all the details – they reached this area,” he said. He said the army expressed “deep sorrow” and was investigating.

Israel’s prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, said in a statement: “Together with the entire people of Israel, I bow my head in deep sorrow and mourn the death of three of our dear sons who were kidnapped. My heart goes out to the grieving families in their difficult time.”

Al Jazeera initially said that video journalist Samer Abu Daqqa and its chief correspondent in Gaza, Wael al-Dahdouh, had been injured by shrapnel when they were reporting at a school that had been hit by an earlier airstrike.

In a subsequent statement condemning the Israeli military, Al Jazeera attributed the injuries to a drone strike: “Following Samer’s injury, he was left to bleed to death for over five hours, as Israeli forces prevented ambulances and rescue workers from reaching him, denying the much-needed emergency treatment.”

Dahdouh, who lost several members of his family in Israeli bombings last month, was wounded in the arm and transferred to Nasser hospital in Khan Younis.


Earlier on Friday, the IDF recovered the bodies of three other hostages in Gaza: Elya Toledano, 28, a French-Israeli civilian, and two soldiers, Nik Beizer and Ron Scherman, both 19.

The military said they were identified in a process carried out by medical officials, military rabbis and forensic experts. It did not give further details of the circumstances of their death, or from where in Gaza they were recovered.

About 240 people were taken hostage when Hamas gunmen breached the separation barrier into Israel on 7 October and killed 1,200 people, mostly civilians.

Israel’s ensuing offensive in Gaza has killed more than 18,700 people, mostly women and children, according to Palestinian officials.

The Israeli government has repeatedly stated that bringing home all of the hostages is one of its chief war aims. But in seven weeks since ground troops pushed into northern Gaza, troops have not rescued any hostages, though they freed one early in the conflict and have found the bodies of several more.

Families of the hostages said this week they were “shocked” by the announcement by the director of Israeli intelligence agency the Mossad that he was refusing to conduct new negotiations to free them, and demanded an explanation from the authorities.

During a week-long truce in late November, Hamas released more than 100 women, children and foreigners it was holding in Gaza in exchange for the release of 240 women and teenagers Israel had imprisoned, many without charge.

According to the Israeli military, more than 130 of the hostages taken to Gaza are still being held. Some have been declared dead in absentia by Israeli authorities.

The Palestinian Prisoners’ Association said Israel has detained more than 4,400 Palestinians since 7 October and is holding around half without charge.

Toledano, who turned 28 in captivity, was among an estimated 240 people taken hostage during the Hamas attacks in southern Israel. A resident of Tel Aviv, he was at the Nova music festival along with his friend and fellow French-Israeli Mia Schem, who was released under a truce agreement at the end of November.

The two friends had tried to flee by car at the start of the attack on the Nova music festival, but their tyres were shot out. Schem had messaged other friends: “They’re shooting at us, come to help us.”

Schem, 21, who was training to be a tattoo artist, was later shown in the first Hamas video of a hostage speaking from captivity. She was released on 30 November.

 
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Frankfooter

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Bear in mind those are Hamas-generated figures and the term is vague enough to range from stomach flu to cholera. I think that's why Shack gave the dismissive reaction.
No, mandrill, this report which is already 5 days old came from the WHO.

You, shack and basketcase are dismissive of every single legit source of information.
Every single one.
 
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Israeli military says its troops shot and killed three hostages by mistake
IDF identifies hostages killed as Yotam Haim, Alon Shamriz and Samer El-Talalqa, saying they were mistakenly believed to be a threat

The Israeli military has said that its troops shot and killed three hostages being held by Hamas after mistakenly identifying them as a threat during fighting in a battle-torn neighbourhood of Gaza City.

The announcement on Friday came amid heavy fighting across the embattled territory that led to an influx of dead and wounded into hospitals in Deir al-Balah, Khan Younis and Rafah.


Separately, the Qatar-based television network Al Jazeera said that one of its journalists was killed and and another was injured in a drone strike while reporting in Khan Younis.

The army identified the three killed hostages as Yotam Haim and Alon Shamriz, who were taken from Kfar Aza kibbutz during Hamas’s 7 October attack, and Samer El-Talalqa, taken from Nir Am kibbutz.

The hostages were killed in the Gaza City area of Shejaiya, where troops have been engaged in fierce fighting with Hamas militants in recent days.

The exact circumstances of their deaths were not immediately clear. In a statement late on Friday, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) said: “During combat in Shejaiya, the IDF mistakenly identified three Israeli hostages as a threat. As a result, the troops fired toward them and they were killed.”

Army spokesperson Rear Adm Daniel Hagari said it was believed that the three had either fled their captors or been abandoned. “Perhaps in the last few days, or over the past day – we still don’t know all the details – they reached this area,” he said. He said the army expressed “deep sorrow” and was investigating.

Israel’s prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, said in a statement: “Together with the entire people of Israel, I bow my head in deep sorrow and mourn the death of three of our dear sons who were kidnapped. My heart goes out to the grieving families in their difficult time.”

Al Jazeera initially said that video journalist Samer Abu Daqqa and its chief correspondent in Gaza, Wael al-Dahdouh, had been injured by shrapnel when they were reporting at a school that had been hit by an earlier airstrike.

In a subsequent statement condemning the Israeli military, Al Jazeera attributed the injuries to a drone strike: “Following Samer’s injury, he was left to bleed to death for over five hours, as Israeli forces prevented ambulances and rescue workers from reaching him, denying the much-needed emergency treatment.”

Dahdouh, who lost several members of his family in Israeli bombings last month, was wounded in the arm and transferred to Nasser hospital in Khan Younis.


Earlier on Friday, the IDF recovered the bodies of three other hostages in Gaza: Elya Toledano, 28, a French-Israeli civilian, and two soldiers, Nik Beizer and Ron Scherman, both 19.

The military said they were identified in a process carried out by medical officials, military rabbis and forensic experts. It did not give further details of the circumstances of their death, or from where in Gaza they were recovered.

About 240 people were taken hostage when Hamas gunmen breached the separation barrier into Israel on 7 October and killed 1,200 people, mostly civilians.

Israel’s ensuing offensive in Gaza has killed more than 18,700 people, mostly women and children, according to Palestinian officials.

The Israeli government has repeatedly stated that bringing home all of the hostages is one of its chief war aims. But in seven weeks since ground troops pushed into northern Gaza, troops have not rescued any hostages, though they freed one early in the conflict and have found the bodies of several more.

Families of the hostages said this week they were “shocked” by the announcement by the director of Israeli intelligence agency the Mossad that he was refusing to conduct new negotiations to free them, and demanded an explanation from the authorities.

During a week-long truce in late November, Hamas released more than 100 women, children and foreigners it was holding in Gaza in exchange for the release of 240 women and teenagers Israel had imprisoned, many without charge.

According to the Israeli military, more than 130 of the hostages taken to Gaza are still being held. Some have been declared dead in absentia by Israeli authorities.

The Palestinian Prisoners’ Association said Israel has detained more than 4,400 Palestinians since 7 October and is holding around half without charge.

Toledano, who turned 28 in captivity, was among an estimated 240 people taken hostage during the Hamas attacks in southern Israel. A resident of Tel Aviv, he was at the Nova music festival along with his friend and fellow French-Israeli Mia Schem, who was released under a truce agreement at the end of November.

The two friends had tried to flee by car at the start of the attack on the Nova music festival, but their tyres were shot out. Schem had messaged other friends: “They’re shooting at us, come to help us.”

Schem, 21, who was training to be a tattoo artist, was later shown in the first Hamas video of a hostage speaking from captivity. She was released on 30 November.

As noted on another thread, Hamas had been dressing hostages in hijabs when they had to move them in open air.
So you have to excuse the IDF, they likely thought they were just shooting women again.
 
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Frankfooter

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More details on today's killing of an Al Jazeera journalist.
Its f'ng sick, killing journalists.
Its sick enough killing women and children.


Colleagues ‘upset, in awe’ of Palestinian journalists after killing of Al Jazeera cameraman

Reporting from Ramallah, occupied West Bank
Just walking into the [Al Jazeera] Ramallah office and seeing the faces of our colleagues says it all: Everyone is crestfallen. Everyone is upset and in shock.
Since the war began, I and a number of my colleagues, we are waking up in the morning and we are checking our phones, the very first thing that we do, we are checking to see if Youmna, if Hind, if Hani, if Tareq, if Safwat, if Sami and if Maher are all still alive.
People that we work with very closely.
I was last in the [Gaza] bureau in January, and even then, it was tough for them to report because of the Israeli siege.
We are all completely in awe when it comes to Palestinian journalists. Not just in Gaza, even here in the occupied West Bank.
There isn’t a single Palestinian journalist who you speak to that won’t tell you a story of either being detained, or being shot at, or being tear gassed, or being harassed, or their families being harassed.
Since October 7th it has got a lot tougher to be a Palestinian journalist … and yet, they still do what they are doing.
This is really the message I have taken away from all of our colleagues in Gaza: They wake up every morning with a determination to continue reporting.
I am actually in awe of it.
 
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Frankfooter

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Yes, if you directly lie about my views its justified to call you a POS, which is what I called you.

Until then you deserve to be called a POS.
You're having a good day, shack.
I called you out for intentionally lying to misrepresent me.
And dinklemouse says you wrote most offensive post he's seen on this board.

Keep lying about what people say and laughing at the news that 350,000 people are sick because of the Israeli genocide.
You might as well go back to saying nukes are the only way create peace through war.

 

The Oracle

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On the slopes of Mount Parnassus, Greece

Today I was among the journalists who have attended a private screening of the raw footage of October 7th and I want to express to you what I saw since it’s not been made public. It’s been a very heavy day. A decision was made that Jews are less than human, and treated that way in words and deeds..I now know that’s exactly the message Hamas sent on purpose — at scale. I wasn’t aware of that before. I saw bodies were burned but I did not understand or appreciate how intentional the effort was - they did it methodically, you hear it in the voices, the commands the ease, the excitement of finding and mutilating victims.
Very powerful and insightful.....
 

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Frankfooter

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Jeez all you guys constantly putting up anti-Israel posts.

I hope you were all wearing condoms when you heard about the IDF accidentally killing 3 hostages, cuz I hate to think how yucky that news would have made your undies...
That's just 3 more people that wouldn't have died if there had been a ceasefire.
Who cares which side they are on, the killing just has to stop.

 
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shack

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You are a hasbara troll, shack.

All that proves is you can't debate honestly and have to resort to trolling.
LOL. Says the person who has set the gold standard for lying, trolling and dishonest debating.


1) Troll - I have repeatedly called BDS to end apartheid so stupid attacks like this are no longer needed, you are a POS for lying.
2) Troll - I have repeatedly called for a ceasefire so nobody on either side gets killed, you are a POS for lying.
You support the massacre of Oct. 7 by continually justifying Hamas' terrorist attack. You are happy that they killed 1,200.
You support Hamas when they say that was only the 1st attack. You have never denounced those statements.
You support "Hamas' declaration of "from the river to the sea", which is an explicit call to eradicate Jews.
You support Hamas' use of human shields.
You call for BDS, which will take years to have any effect. Yet you refuse to acknowledge that a Hamas surrender and release of hostages immediately stops the violence. There is no other strategy that comes remotely close to stopping the violence as quickly. In fact even with a Hamas surrender you can still have your BDS and it will be the same timeline for it to work. You don't support that. The ONLY POSSIBLE CONCLUSION is that you don't care if more Palestinians die.

I suspect your response will be to attack me and the things I've said or didn't say. You know what? That only means that you are not disagreeing with me. You cannot prove that my statements are incorrect, and that is what making you so obviously angry. You're just trying to create an equivalency with me. Do you think that we're morally equivalent?

Here's a suggestion. Why don't you try disputing what I've said point by point. Prove that my conclusions of you are based on anything than a logical path based on your positions. Tell us in a remotely plausible way why you are against Hamas' surrender when it is the fastest way to end the violence. They are clearly losing. Why delay the inevitable when you can save Palestinian lives now. What could possibly a believable reason?

You can denigrate me in a separate post.

As you've noticed, I have not lowered myself to your level of profanity laced rhetoric and fury. As the saying goes, "never argue with........they'll only beat you with experience".

I am sincerely apologetic if I have upset your sensibilities in the slightest. It would be the furthest thing my actual intent.
 
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