Butler is a self-proclaimed progressive and he supports Israel's bombing of Arabs.
Israel at war
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Butler is a progressive in name only. His views are consistently aligned with the Far Right.
If you take the abbreviated statement that avoid the temporary part.
His current claims are the the death and sacrifice of Palestinians in Gaza are required, as he sits in his Qatar mansion.
Mashaal: Hamas ‘well aware of consequences’ of attack, liberation demands ‘sacrifices’
Questioned by critical Saudi interviewer citing 'Hamas transgressions against Israeli civilians,' terror group's former leader falsely claims it doesn't target non-combatants
www.timesofisrael.com
Saw this on twitter. Makes the most sense IMO.
You will have some civilian loss of life, but this way its kept to a minimum
You will have some civilian loss of life, but this way its kept to a minimum
I agree with your condemnation of people calling for the deaths of all Arabs but are you saying Hamas is multi-ethnic?
And is now quadrupling squared down. I think Anbarandy said it fairly well too.
And yes I did.ah yes, good old lack of basic comprehension and context. So ironic. Quote the whole post he who mocks people like Trump but sees only what he want to see (racism behind every closet)
Want to triple down?
Now it’s my turn and like Trump and you.
/“golf clap”
You nailed his Modi neo-fascioned, Indian ultra-nationalist ass to the wall.
There are words for people like you Kautilya, most of them, banned here.
The far Left and the far Right have one thing in common, and thats anti-semitism
And you are misinterpreting what I said. Its that simple. And being nit picky on top of that. Which is boring.
The actual stance is that in return for all Palestinian demands being met, Hamas would be willing to accept a temporary cessions of their terrorism.
I find it amazing that someone who says they oppose authoritarianism and religious extremism is so willing to accept Hamas talking points. I'm sure you'll soon be echoing Meshal's clams that their attack on the 7th wasn't targeting civilians.
You new catch line is stupid. Palestine never existed as an Arab state so hasn't been wiped off the map (and it won't until there's a negotiated peace). The closest you can come is saying that Jordan (and a much lesser extent Egypt) wiped the proposed Palestinian state off the may when they invaded and annexed it.
Universal healthcare, election finance reform, term limits, further examination of UBI, curtailing of overpriced drugs, legalization of mushrooms.....
Thats just a starter pack. That's far right?
I completely agree. I don't know how Israel can defend itself from Hamas without civilian casualties but it is wrong to say they shouldn't try to minimize the harm to civilians.
Sadly Palestinian leadership, especially from religious totalitarians like Hamas, has been trying to convince their people that attacks on Israel will somehow result in Jews leaving.
Hamas millionaire Meshal's latest statements from Qatar make it clear he's willing to accept as much death and destruction as needed so that he can maintain his power and wealth.
Mashaal: Hamas ‘well aware of consequences’ of attack, liberation demands ‘sacrifices’
Questioned by critical Saudi interviewer citing 'Hamas transgressions against Israeli civilians,' terror group's former leader falsely claims it doesn't target non-combatants
www.timesofisrael.com
The Crunchy-to-Alt-Right Pipeline
Those living on the fringe of the left and the right share more in common than you might think.
www.theatlantic.com
I see you, B1000.
I am not.
You said that there couldn't be war crimes against Hamas because it isn't a signatory of the Geneva conventions.
You said there should be no quarter given.
That you want to backpedal now and say you don't think Israel should commit war crimes, fine.
That you want to pretend what you really meant was that it would be unfair to accuse Israel of war crimes for things that aren't, then fine.
Hamas has a history of forcing civilians to stay and stealing aid supplies for their own needs so sadly the Hamas will be the last people to be hungry. Israel is willing to send in troops and suffer the deaths because it is a more rights respecting and effective way to shut down Hamas.Saw this on twitter. Makes the most sense IMO.
You will have some civilian loss of life, but this way its kept to a minimum
Of course many people in Gaza, the West bank, and around the world see Hamas as heroes for their Oct. 7 slaughter so even killing off all their leadership will only be a temporary victory.
If Butler was simply saying "Israel shouldn't even try to minimize civilian casualties" that would be bad enough, but wouldn't have caught my eye.
He was saying that committing war crimes was the right and proper way to win the war and it is Hamas's fault.
He can pretend now that it isn't what he meant, but that's what caught my eye.
Like I said, I responded to that because I didn't expect it from him. I thought he hadn't gone that far down the pipeline yet.
(There are others here who are spouting appalling nonsense on both sides which I am not surprised by and see little reason to comment on.)
Maybe she is…maybe not?
I don’t think there is anything that is anti-Semitic in this post, tho.
Omar states that Hamas is portrayed differently in the media than nations such as Israel, England, etc. That is undoubtedly true- everyone challenges Hamas’ legitimacy while not holding other nations to a similar standard.
I think she makes her point in a smug, condescending way that ignores the obvious differences between Hamas vs western governments but that doesn’t mean that there isn’t some truth to what she says.
