to me he should be apologizing for stereotyping Asians instead of using the term Oriental. but thats just MHO
Is "oriental" truly offensive?
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Thanks WG.
I think the "taking over" was the part considered most offensive even more so than the "work like dogs".
I think the "taking over" was the part considered most offensive even more so than the "work like dogs".
China has moved up quickly to become the second biggest economy in the world and will overtake the US.
Is it offensive if I say that out loud?
I think people got bent out of shape by Rob Ford because he made a generalization about people based on race. He was trying to complement asians from a percieved good work ethic. Not that bad of a thing to say.
But I think the expectation is that a voted representative is supposed to be held to higher standards of conduct.
But I think the expectation is that a voted representative is supposed to be held to higher standards of conduct.
To some people the word asian means east asian to others it means the whole continent..... so I guess using a direction e.g. East, south, southeast helps to clarify what one is talking about.I find it fucked up when people constantly use Asian when they mean oriental. Oh dude I really dig oriental chicks. Really, everything from Turkish and Israeli to Japanese and all chicks in between. Fuck dude, you might as well say you are a hetrosexual.
When you use the term Asian when you really and obviously mean oriental, it shows a gross geographic ignorance.
To me it is about as offensive as the use of Little People [I mean really should I pet them on the head and pinch the cheeks of midgets now?]
Or BCE instead of BC. Before Christ is offensive you must use Before Common Era. But wait, what year is used as the divider. Why the traditional year of the birth of our lord and savior. And the difference is what now?
Hot Asian chick
On the other hand to me Chinese, Japanese and Korean are very unique (politically, linguistically, and in terms of food just to mention a few) so if possible I prefer to distiguish them.
Much like I'm sure Irish, Scottish, Welsh, English people might apprecciate being acknowledged. Same goes for all the branches of Christianity.
Of course if you didn't know which country someone was from I don't think anyone would care if someone said asian.
Oriental isn't fighting words though just funny sounding like coloured folk or negro.
Here is a Link with many definitions and comments of the Political Correctness of the word:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=oriental
I know an hot lady from Laos who says she is an Asian and was brought up and trained that Orientals live in China and Japan. I told her I thought Asian and Oriental were synonymous terms. She said NO! She said Oriental is a proper term to be used for those from China and Japan but since she is from Laos, she is Asian.
But words have meaning. If someone started using the term human when they mean some subsector of humanity, they would be considered nuts. I refuse to engage in verbal contortion just because don't dingbats get their panties in a knot and the slightest thing, especially for no reason at all.
If I were to say I really dig mammals as pets and started to list of breeds of cats and only cats, any sane person [of which the anal politically correct crowd in this case are not included] would wonder why the fuck I didn't just say I dig cats. They would be right to do so.
From now on I will be politically correct. I won't use the term oriental, I will just use the term chainsaw to mean east asian.
Actually from now on, I term fat as offensive if used by anyone who isn't fat. I know demand that everyone the world use the term gravitationally challenged. There is a lot of bad history with the word fat and every time a non gravitationally challenged person uses it, they hurt my poor little feeweens. So it is no longer trans fats, that us just too hurtful, you must use trans gravitationally challenged food item. Or monounsaturated gravitationally challenged food item.
I demand and order you to do this because as you said in another thread, you are not in a position to say what is offensive and what isn't for fat people. If you don't you will be guilty of a hate crime.
In real life, if I were serious, you would tell me to go fuck myself, or you would if you were worthy of any respect and had the balls to stand up for yourself.
Hot asian, but not a hot chainsaw.
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Lots of good responses.
So far, nobody has mentioned if they think agencies that use the term "Oriental" in their name are ignorant or mildly offensive or out of date. I'm guessing it's okay just as long as Rob Ford isn't operating it.
So far, nobody has mentioned if they think agencies that use the term "Oriental" in their name are ignorant or mildly offensive or out of date. I'm guessing it's okay just as long as Rob Ford isn't operating it.
except that language, and common parlance does not work like a computer program. I still have not seen anyone post what they want used as the replacement word. Asian is clearly far too broad.
"white" and "Caucasian" is too broad ... that could mean Brits, Irish, Greeks, Italians, Russians, Eastern Europeans, etc.
the term "oriental" has been used out of ignorance and alienation ... it implies that the person is foreign, not one of us
"Asian" at least implies that the person is a fellow countrymen ... just with an ancestry from a different continent
the term "oriental" has been used out of ignorance and alienation ... it implies that the person is foreign, not one of us
"Asian" at least implies that the person is a fellow countrymen ... just with an ancestry from a different continent
Are you saying that agencies who use the term "oriental" aren't run by Asians? Are the owners ignorant for using the word?
I don't know why some agency uses that term; maybe they did it out of ignorance themselves (because they didn't know any better and that's the only term they know), maybe they use the term because that is what is easier for their customers to identify with.
But this pales in comparison to the far more widespread use of the term by the majority society.
Thanks ig-88.
I was wondering why people didn't comment on agencies on here using the term, glad to read your perspective.
I was wondering why people didn't comment on agencies on here using the term, glad to read your perspective.
Asian includes central Asia, like Iran, Azerbaijan, etc. South Asia, siberia.
Most "Asians" Like the Japanese, Korean live on islands. The only Asian ethnic groups that do live on the continent are the chinese and Mongolians.
South East Asians are different all together. I think using "Asian" is VERY confusing and demeaning towards other ethnicities as it almost always implies being North East Asian.
Most "Asians" Like the Japanese, Korean live on islands. The only Asian ethnic groups that do live on the continent are the chinese and Mongolians.
South East Asians are different all together. I think using "Asian" is VERY confusing and demeaning towards other ethnicities as it almost always implies being North East Asian.
