no.no.no...how about african? afro- american?afro- canadian? afro-carribean?black is still cool...what race are you Viggo?Are "European" or "Westerner" or even "Asian" outdated terms to use if you know the specific country?
no.no.no...how about african? afro- american?afro- canadian? afro-carribean?black is still cool...what race are you Viggo?Are "European" or "Westerner" or even "Asian" outdated terms to use if you know the specific country?
If I'm calling out a group, that implies a tone - that's the disrespectful aspect of it.it's not..would you like to show us a video of yourself calling out"negroes" at Dufferin and St.Clair? Markham and Lawrence?
haven't seen a good "beatdown"video in a long while...lol
agreed...i like my national background to describe me...orientals is used by asians because it's what we think will be best understood by the white man...offensive?..like i said,not really but personally i like asianWhile Carling makes a good point, and deferring to how people wish to be described is both polite and wise. The problem is that I know other people whose ethic origin is from Asian countries who themselves use the term oriental.
Most people I know tend to use national background: e.g. Japanese, Thai, Vietnamese, rather than Asian or Oriental.
In my view there are two issues here:Why is it impolite to use a general term instead of a specific one?
Charlize Theron is African and still cool too. All people are beautiful, unless they aren't.no.no.no...how about african? afro- american?afro- canadian? afro-carribean?black is still cool...what race are you Viggo?
Danes are fine with being called Scandinavians or Europeans, it isn't offensive at all.In my view there are two issues here:
1. Racial identifications are best avoided; nobody enjoys being profiled on basis of race.
2. It is a bit impolite to group nationalities together. Most canadians consider themselves different from americans and prefer to be canadians instead of north americans. Danes prefer not to be pooled with swedes, and french prefer not to be confused with germans. It is sort of laziness to call someone asian instead of Japanese, chinese or taiwanese.
I'm not sure that it is if you don't know more if, however, I know that John Ho's family are from China and his ethnicity comes up is it not better to describe him as being either Chinese or Chinese-Canadian than Asian or Oriental?Why is it impolite to use a general term instead of a specific one?
I agree it is not a big deal for danes, however, I find it more polite when people bother to use the nationality. How many times have you been called dutch?Danes are fine with being called Scandinavians or Europeans, it isn't offensive at all.
I agree with you that generally race should play no role when you can get away with it.In my view there are two issues here:
1. Racial identifications are best avoided; nobody enjoys being profiled on basis of race.
2. It is a bit impolite to group nationalities together. Most canadians consider themselves different from americans and prefer to be canadians instead of north americans. Danes prefer not to be pooled with swedes, and french prefer not to be confused with germans. It is sort of laziness to call someone asian instead of Japanese, chinese or taiwanese.
"the tall guy in the blue jacket over there" would do just as well.I agree with you that generally race should play no role when you can get away with it.
But the other day at was at my doctor's office and told him I had given a form to one of his staff. He asked which one and I, not knowing her name, said "the nice oriental lady." I don't think that was inappropriate.
Or if I am at a social event and somebody says who is X. I don't think it would be wrong for me to say "the tall oriental guy in the blue jacket over there."
use it..not a problem.....but if you knew he was Vietnamese,would you say he was vietnamese? or just oriental?..i guess being non-asian makes it difficult for those who can't differentiate between a Japanese girl, chinese girl or korean...unless you are Don Draper...he knows those "orientals inside and out"...lolI agree with you that generally race should play no role when you can get away with it.
But the other day at was at my doctor's office and told him I had given a form to one of his staff. He asked which one and I, not knowing her name, said "the nice oriental lady." I don't think that was inappropriate.
Or if I am at a social event and somebody says who is X. I don't think it would be wrong for me to say "the tall oriental guy in the blue jacket over there."
+1..why not the asian guy?..he's from asia , no?...not Orientaland"the tall guy in the blue jacket over there" would do just as well.
I think it's okay to say he works like a dog, unless I'm Rob Ford of course."the tall guy in the blue jacket over there" would do just as well.
Agreed, unless there are two tall guys in blue blazers over there. There is polite and there is P.C. run amok."the tall guy in the blue jacket over there" would do just as well.
you have clearly never been to a party with lawyers..."the tall guy in the blue jacket over there" would do just as well.
All the lawyers on terb are short, bald and portly. Now, at the Royal Canadian Yacht club ..........you have clearly never been to a party with lawyers...
I am not bald...yet, nor short...but guilty on the third charge...All the lawyers on terb are short, bald and portly. Now, at the Royal Canadian Yacht club ..........