Is it normal to feel sick/tired all the time?

How often do you feel sick and/or fatigued?

  • Literally every day

    Votes: 2 3.5%
  • Almost every day

    Votes: 6 10.5%
  • Most days

    Votes: 2 3.5%
  • Half the time

    Votes: 4 7.0%
  • About 30% of the time

    Votes: 6 10.5%
  • Not often, maybe about once a week

    Votes: 4 7.0%
  • Less than once a week

    Votes: 3 5.3%
  • About once a month

    Votes: 3 5.3%
  • Almost never

    Votes: 27 47.4%

  • Total voters
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Phil C. McNasty

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Apparently mercury fillings can cause (or make worse) a host of different diseases.
Multiple Sclerosis is another one: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/...ing-blame-crippling-symptoms-mistaken-MS.html

I have also heard it can cause anxiety issues and panic attacks in many people.

The reason why I think they havent been banned yet in US or Canada is because of money.
Some company somewhere is making billion$ off mercury fillings.
They probably have strong lobby groups and also have strong influence within the CDA and ADA.

Always follow the money
 
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malata

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Apparently mercury fillings can cause a host of different diseases.
Multiple Sclerosis is another one: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/...ing-blame-crippling-symptoms-mistaken-MS.html

I have also heard it can cause anxiety issues and panic attacks in many people.

The reason why I think they havent been banned yet in US or Canada is because of money.
Some company somewhere is making billion$ off mercury fillings.
They probably have strong lobby groups and also have strong influence within the CDA and ADA.

Always follow the money
they say vaccines contain mercury

 

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The other thing is that I am pretty sure I have sleep apnea, and that could be triggering my poor immune system and why I get sick.
Sleep apnea can wreck havoc in ones life .... the way we breathe impairs our quality of sleep ... and as we know not much sleep equals - not enough energy , fatigue and definitely a poor immune system
I suffer from this condition and although I rarely get sick I can relate with the feeling exhausted and tired part . I suggest you get checked ASAP by a sleep specialist and if you end up being diagnosed with sleep apnea then yiu should consider buying a CPAP machine to help you properly breath when you sleep ... mind you it will be a challenge to get used to it with the mask and what not , but it’s definitely worth a shot if in the end it helps you out ...

One thing that helped me was going outside regularly to get some sun and fresh air , so simple but trust me that alone can do wonders for ones health ....man is not meant to be cooped up inside so make a habit of taking daily walks or weekly jogs .... if you have a car try getting out of the city once in a while
If your not motivated which is understandable with everything that is going on you will still need to somehow find some discipline... quit your bad habits for some good daily routines and slowly change your lifestyle .... gyms are closed ? try exercising a bit doing a few pushups etc. , start eating better , take vitamins/minerals etc pretty basic stuff that we neglect .... don’t expect to go to the doctors for a quick fix as most don’t have a clear cut answer to diagnose the root of the problem , as there are a lot of contributing factors that cause fatigue and a poor immune system .... bottom line is that you will need to do this by yourself and ultimately figure out what works .. hang in there and if you put in effort I’m pretty sure that things will improve


I am seriously thinking of moving to a Third World country such as Thailand, and living in the village. I just think it’s so much more wholesome, with lots of people, laughing,and an easy-going lifestyle. City life focusing on career, money, status, etc is making me isolated, miserable, depressed and sick
To move/retire in a foreign country is a much riskier and complicated proposition....naturally it’s a different experience altogether to vacation than to live there .... so dig deep and do your homework and weigh all the pros and cons of everyday life there before you take that decision... make sure you know what your doing because the whole point of it all is to improve your current situation and not to make it worse....
Many horror stories of unlucky foreigners seeking companionship and ending up being swindled and cleaned out or even worse.... so be cautious mate

Sometimes all you need is a change of scenery , maybe take a short trip/vacay somewhere warm when this covid situation gets resolved... a place with some nice beaches , good fishing/hiking and why not a bit of nightlife mingling with the local ladies and suddenly you will be feeling like a reborn man ...
 
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Just a FYI, about 15 years ago I started feeling very fatigued. I went to go see a regular doctor (who was fucking useless IMO) and his diagnosis was its most likely Epstein Barr virus (also called Yuppie flu). He said there was no cure and I was just gonna have to learn to manage it.

I was then referred to by a friend to Dr. Hui in Toronto. He examined me and noticed I had 9 mercury dental fillings.
He then performed a urine test on me. When the results came back it turned out I had very high levels of mercury in my body.
He then told me I first had to go see dentist who specializes in mercury filling removal.
All my fillings had to come out and had to be replaced with composite fillings.

So I did all that (which wasnt cheap) and I noticed a drastic improvement in my fatigue.
But I still wasnt completely cured yet. I still felt lingering fatigue.

He then told me I had to do something called intravenous mercury chelation to get rid of all the mercury that was stored inside my body.
Dr. Hui is one of the few people in Canada who offers this chelation at his 3 clinics.
Its also not cheap (I think it was around $120 per session).
I wound up having to do 10 sessions to get rid of all the mercury.
But when it was all said and done I felt terrific and back to my normal self.

It still pisses me off to this day that Health Canada allows dentists to use mercury amalgam fillings.
Mercury is the 5th most poisonous metal in the world.
How the fuck does anyone think this is a good idea to put this in peoples mouths??!!
Many countries have banned mercury fillings, but Canada still hasnt apparently.

If you wanna read more about this have a look at this link: https://trans4mind.com/nutrition/cfs.htm
Its almost a carbon copy of what I went through, although the guy who wrote that had more severe symptoms than I did
What year did you have those fillings, the 80’s?

I had half of mine changed out a few years ago. It was painful AF and I’m not looking forward to doing the other half but I got them in the 70’s & 80’s, maybe you’ve hit on an idea.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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What year did you have those fillings, the 80’s?

I had half of mine changed out a few years ago. It was painful AF and I’m not looking forward to doing the other half but I got them in the 70’s & 80’s, maybe you’ve hit on an idea.
I was born in 1976. My first fillings were when I was 12 years old (so late 80's).
It took 2 or 3 separate dentist appointments to get them all out because they can only remove so many fillings per day.
Whenever you get 1 mercury filling taken out it has to be replaced with a composite filling right away, so its very time consuming.

When I had mine removed the dentist had to wear a hazmat suit. So its perfectly okay for dentists to put mercury fillings in my mouth, but when they have to remove them they apparently need to wear hazmat suits :rolleyes:

Link: https://iaomt.org/resources/safe-removal-amalgam-fillings/

 
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Phil C. McNasty

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Dr. Ralph Reilly is known for offering mercury free dentistry in Middlesex, New Jersey. This famous smoking tooth video shows how mercury is released from a traditional amalgam filling when there is friction against it, as in chewing and many other normal activities

 

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Why is that too high ? Sorry I'm new to Toronto.

Way to high. There are very few jobs out there that will pay you a few bucks more then minimum wage to start. A few labor jobs here and there but then you won't really be working with people in high capacity. 30 bucks an hour is almost 63k a year.
 
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Sleep apnea can wreck havoc in ones life .... the way we breathe impairs our quality of sleep ... and as we know not much sleep equals - not enough energy , fatigue and definitely a poor immune system
I suffer from this condition and although I rarely get sick I can relate with the feeling exhausted and tired part . I suggest you get checked ASAP by a sleep specialist and if you end up being diagnosed with sleep apnea then yiu should consider buying a CPAP machine to help you properly breath when you sleep ... mind you it will be a challenge to get used to it with the mask and what not , but it’s definitely worth a shot if in the end it helps you out ...

One thing that helped me was going outside regularly to get some sun and fresh air , so simple but trust me that alone can do wonders for ones health ....man is not meant to be cooped up inside so make a habit of taking daily walks or weekly jogs .... if you have a car try getting out of the city once in a while
If your not motivated which is understandable with everything that is going on you will still need to somehow find some discipline... quit your bad habits for some good daily routines and slowly change your lifestyle .... gyms are closed ? try exercising a bit doing a few pushups etc. , start eating better , take vitamins/minerals etc pretty basic stuff that we neglect .... don’t expect to go to the doctors for a quick fix as most don’t have a clear cut answer to diagnose the root of the problem , as there are a lot of contributing factors that cause fatigue and a poor immune system .... bottom line is that you will need to do this by yourself and ultimately figure out what works .. hang in there and if you put in effort I’m pretty sure that things will improve




To move/retire in a foreign country is a much riskier and complicated proposition....naturally it’s a different experience altogether to vacation than to live there .... so dig deep and do your homework and weigh all the pros and cons of everyday life there before you take that decision... make sure you know what your doing because the whole point of it all is to improve your current situation and not to make it worse....
Many horror stories of unlucky foreigners seeking companionship and ending up being swindled and cleaned out or even worse.... so be cautious mate

Sometimes all you need is a change of scenery , maybe take a short trip/vacay somewhere warm when this covid situation gets resolved... a place with some nice beaches , good fishing/hiking and why not a bit of nightlife mingling with the local ladies and suddenly you will be feeling like a reborn man ...
Thanks for your advice. Has the CPAP made a huge difference in the quality of your life (how you feel)? I heard some people say it doesn't help much, but others say it does.

One thing for sure is that I will have to figure out on my own what is causing it, as there are too many conditons that can cause fatigue and sickness and no doctor is going to be that thorough or concerned enough about me. But it seems that Dr. Hui is a good doctor. Too bad I don't live in TO anymore.
 

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I've always had issues with fatigue since I was little, I suspect it was due to depression. As I got older, it became worse to the point where going to work was hard. I would have to take naps in the car. I suspect it is due to depression and social isolation (I have no close friends of family nearby). Also, I am currenty unemployed, and being idle has made things worse. This year was especially bad, and I have been sick almost every day with cold like symtoms.

I had blood work done many years ago, but nothing came up. I suspect it is more due to psychological stress, and COVID has really affected me mentally. Just the thought that I can't visit friends and family is really tough.

I am 45, and was wondering if it was somewhat normal to be sick and tired a lot. Have you noticed that this years was especially bad, and have you noticed that things have gotten worse as you got older?
Sounds like you have a lot of insight, and are aware of the fold that depression may have in your symptoms. As you are probably aware, lack of energy/ fatigue is one of the cardinal symptoms of depression, and especially when combined with lack of motivation, it’s one of the most disabling. I’d suggest.
1. Definitely talk to your doctor and tell them your concerns about being depressed. Personally, getting a formal diagnosis and then a plan to help manage (medication and or therapy, or both) it was the biggest step forward. If they agree that you are depressed ....
2. As others have said, with no job you have no routine, and covid has messed with your options completely. When I was off work, it really helped to make some kind of routine. Make a list of small projects that you can do around your place. And outdoor places (parks, conservation areas) that you might like to visit, but never have taken the time. Exercise or at least be outdoors every day. Make that a non negotiable part of your schedule.
3. take that list of projects and other small manageable things you want to do,and the night before write down a couple things off that list that you want to tackle tomorrow. And go do it. Even if you plan to do three and only manage one or two, you can look at it and see you at least accomplished something, rather than burn another day away online. As you move on, keep the cumulative list of things you’ve done. Look back at it.
4. As others have said, eat well. Cook your own heathy food from fresh ingredients. Cooking is a great way to occupy time and give you a sense of accomplishment. Junk foods make people feel lethargic at the best of times. Personally I don’t think there is a need for supplements if your doctor has already made sure there are no deficiencies.
5.Limit time online, or in front of the TV. If you want to watch TV, pick something specific you want to watch, don’t fall into the trap of hours of channel surfing. Similarly with the internet. Use it to learn something new, rather than hours of doomscrolling. Get a couple really good novels. Reading is a great way to spend time, and stimulate the mind in a positive way. Occupying your mind to avoid the trap of getting buried in your own head can be really helpful.
COVID has been tough for all, but personally I believe it has impacted more those with mental health problems. Dealing with depression or anxiety is already like having a constant weight on your shoulders. Add to that the weight of uncertainty about the pandemic, the disruption of daily life, relationships, work, it can majorly worsen those mental health issues.
 
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Sounds like you have a lot of insight, and are aware of the fold that depression may have in your symptoms. As you are probably aware, lack of energy/ fatigue is one of the cardinal symptoms of depression, and especially when combined with lack of motivation, it’s one of the most disabling. I’d suggest.
1. Definitely talk to your doctor and tell them your concerns about being depressed. Personally, getting a formal diagnosis and then a plan to help manage (medication and or therapy, or both) it was the biggest step forward. If they agree that you are depressed ....
2. As others have said, with no job you have no routine, and covid has messed with your options completely. When I was off work, it really helped to make some kind of routine. Make a list of small projects that you can do around your place. And outdoor places (parks, conservation areas) that you might like to visit, but never have taken the time. Exercise or at least be outdoors every day. Make that a non negotiable part of your schedule.
3. take that list of projects and other small manageable things you want to do,and the night before write down a couple things off that list that you want to tackle tomorrow. And go do it. Even if you plan to do three and only manage one or two, you can look at it and see you at least accomplished something, rather than burn another day away online. As you move on, keep the cumulative list of things you’ve done. Look back at it.
4. As others have said, eat well. Cook your own heathy food from fresh ingredients. Cooking is a great way to occupy time and give you a sense of accomplishment. Junk foods make people feel lethargic at the best of times. Personally I don’t think there is a need for supplements if your doctor has already made sure there are no deficiencies.
5.Limit time online, or in front of the TV. If you want to watch TV, pick something specific you want to watch, don’t fall into the trap of hours of channel surfing. Similarly with the internet. Use it to learn something new, rather than hours of doomscrolling. Get a couple really good novels. Reading is a great way to spend time, and stimulate the mind in a positive way. Occupying your mind to avoid the trap of getting buried in your own head can be really helpful.
COVID has been tough for all, but personally I believe it has impacted more those with mental health problems. Dealing with depression or anxiety is already like having a constant weight on your shoulders. Add to that the weight of uncertainty about the pandemic, the disruption of daily life, relationships, work, it can majorly worsen those mental health issues.
Thanks, great advice! I am going for walks, trying to eat right, and enjoy cooking. I am currently thinking about starting a YouTube channel, so that is something of a challenge to look forward to. Also, I just bought a piano, and hope to continue my piano studies. These things help...
 

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Is it normal to feel sick/tired all the time?

No
 
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Is it normal to feel sick/tired all the time?

No
I was suprised to see that a quarter responded either every single day, almost every day, or most of the time. That is quite a large number of people. When I go out, I see many workers with a tired look on their face, and many are miserable.
 

superstar_88

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mirerable looking and feeling tired are not necessarily the same thing.
Some of those people who feel tired probably don't exercise.
I find that when I exercise I have more energy and my sleeps are better.
 

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If you sleep well at night (about 7-8 hours), exercise regularly, eat properly, rest enough and spend time outdoors, it is not normal to feel tired all the time. I would address a doctor. There are many reasons for tiredness and sickness.
 

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I was born in 1976. My first fillings were when I was 12 years old (so late 80's).
It took 2 or 3 separate dentist appointments to get them all out because they can only remove so many fillings per day.
Whenever you get 1 mercury filling taken out it has to be replaced with a composite filling right away, so its very time consuming.

When I had mine removed the dentist had to wear a hazmat suit. So its perfectly okay for dentists to put mercury fillings in my mouth, but when they have to remove them they apparently need to wear hazmat suits :rolleyes:

Link: https://iaomt.org/resources/safe-removal-amalgam-fillings/

Seems like every time I go they say "it's been a couple of years since your last x-rays." I say "I thought I just had some last time" They say "no it's been two years"
Then they go behind a wall into a lead lined room to take the pic.
 

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The survey results aren't age adjusted. Just saying...
 

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Apparently mercury fillings can cause (or make worse) a host of different diseases.
Multiple Sclerosis is another one: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/...ing-blame-crippling-symptoms-mistaken-MS.html

I have also heard it can cause anxiety issues and panic attacks in many people.

The reason why I think they havent been banned yet in US or Canada is because of money.
Some company somewhere is making billion$ off mercury fillings.
They probably have strong lobby groups and also have strong influence within the CDA and ADA.

Always follow the money
I have multiple sclerosis, but I've never heard that mercury fillings can cause it. Taking into account that there is no cure, only meds to slow the process down (I'm personally on tecfidera), it sounds awful. I know that a lot of people are misdiagnosed like in case of the Lyme disease (I know a guy who was treated Lyme but the symptoms lasted, and it turned out he has MS). But how many of us do have such fillings? It is scientifically proved?
 
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I have multiple sclerosis, but I've never heard that mercury fillings can cause it. Taking into account that there is no cure, only meds to slow the process down (I'm personally on tecfidera), it sounds awful. I know that a lot of people are misdiagnosed like in case of the Lyme disease (I know a guy who was treated Lyme but the symptoms lasted, and it turned out he has MS). But how many of us do have such fillings? It is scientifically proved?
Its Phil, its a ridiculous theory.
Stinkynuts said he thinks he has sleep apnea then described all the symptoms of sleep apnea.
 
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