Is Christianity a form of totalitarianism?

[WoodPeckr]

That's your Gig JAJA, not mine

but a lifetime of hate and self loathing means you learned nothing.

Speak for yourself JAJA as you create BS issues trying to get Terbites banned!....

 

[papasmerf]

Speak for yourself JAJA as you create BS issues trying to get Terbites banned!....

You have issues no question

 

[oldjones]

Those videos are hideous; Hitchens should sue.

I trust everyone has noted that after posting a provocative question irrelevant to Hitchen's talk, thereby baiting the usual suspects into the ring, canada-man, the OP, has since entirely withdrawn. To watch the spectacle and giggle, no doubt

 

[WoodPeckr]

You have issues no question

Take a good look in the mirror, for the source of your issues....

 

[johnhenrygalt]

If you where a little more knowledgeable about Catholics you would know it ain't that simple. You actually have to be repentant before God before absolution can be given.

This is not true. To be given absolution, one need be repentant before the priest. God doesn't enter into the issue, except to the extent that the priest erroneously pretends to represent him/her/it.

 

[CapitalGuy]

A lot of hate in here. God Bless you all.

 

[papasmerf]

A lot of hate in here. God Bless you all.

fact is all I have for woody is compassion. Not much else to say.

 

[gramage]

A lot of hate in here. God Bless you all.

LOL!

Nothing creates hate quite as well as god/religion after all.

 

[Aardvark154]

A lot of hate in here.

That TERB is in general very antireligious should surprise no one. Regardless of our views on the political spectrum we are a minority. The purpose of this board is considered by a fair number of people in Canada and even more in the U.S. to be to phrase it delicately "uncouth."

Given that what a surprise to find that there are more left of center than right of center posters and likewise that there are fewer believers than non-believers. Where it the otherway around I would be surprised.

 

[Aardvark154]

God doesn't enter into the issue, except to the extent that the priest erroneously pretends to represent him/her/it.

Of course this is your viewpoint.

 

[Aardvark154]

Is belief in the Communist Party a form of totalitarianism?

Was belief in the wisdom of Chairman Mao as he destroyed much of the cultural patrimony of China a religion? Was this belief totalitarianism?

 

[WoodPeckr]

Is belief in the Communist Party a form of totalitarianism?

Was belief in the wisdom of Chairman Mao as he destroyed much of the cultural patrimony of China a religion? Was this belief totalitarianism?

Definitely!
What's ironic is one main reason the RC Church hated Communism so much is that Communism was structured much like the RC Church politically, in hopes it would last as long and as well as the Church did. The Vatican recognized this from the start and knew they must counter that threat from the getgo.

 

[red]

Christianity - no, man's implementation, seriously flawed.

OTB

well said

 

[seaniam]

Definitely!
What's ironic is one main reason the RC Church hated Communism so much is that Communism was structured much like the RC Church politically, in hopes it would last as long and as well as the Church did. The Vatican recognized this from the start and knew they must counter that threat from the getgo.

LMAO were do you get this BS. The Communist Party was set up like any other political party in the West. Most Western Party's have a Chairman, look at the US example or even Canada. The fact that the Party Chairman had a significant political role in the Soviet Union or China is irrelevant. In fact while you can make certain links to the Vatican political structure the truth of the matter is that all parliamentary systems are modeled in somewhat after the RC model, totalitarian or not.

The Vatican actually owes most of it's organization to the old Roman empire.

Get your facts straight.


sean

 

[seaniam]

Please don't be offended.
I suffered through 13 yrs of Catholic education when you throw in kindergarten, so I know a bit about The Church, thank you!

And YEP, an 'Act of Perfect Contrition' before you die is in fact an "escape clause" in the RC Church!

In fact Hitler and Mussolini both Catholics, could have used it to have all their sins forgiven them before they died, to go to Heaven.....The priests taught and debated this with us many years ago....

Clearly you don't even with all that Catholic education. As for Hitler and Mussolini, do you really believe they would be truly repentant before God for their crimes. In fact both men would have been excommunicated by default for their crimes. Even if a RC priest forgave them of their sins they would have to actually believe that, have faith in that for it to be valid. Your own comment "Perfect Contrition" says it all.

Your statement that it's a "get out of jail free" makes this part of RC faith seem simple when in fact it's not. Is it your contention that God doesn't know what really is in your heart?

As for your contention that Hitler was a Catholic, well that's also born from your ignorance. Here is a link to many comments from Hitler on Christianity ( he actually thought Communism was Christianities bastard child and both Communism and Christianity were the creation of the Jews and we all know what he thought of Jews)

http://www.geocities.com/chiniquy/Hitler.html

Clearly from your posts what ever education you got from an RC school was clearly RC light.




sean

 

[WoodPeckr]

LMAO were do you get this BS.

Was drummed into our heads for 4 yrs in Catholic HS by fairly zealous priests.
Were all those priests crazy?

Clearly you don't even with all that Catholic education.

After 13 yrs of it you absorb quite a bit, aparently more than you!

How much RC Ed were you subjected to? As you appear totally clueless to even what "Perfect Contrition" entails!....

 

[hans4u]

Even Jesus blasted the so called 'religious' leaders for their many rules and regulations.

He healed a man on their 'holy' day and his compassion made them hate him even more!

He was also accused of being a friend of drunks and prostitutes.

Sounds like alot of people have thrown the baby out with the bathwater when it comes to what it means to be called a Christian.

What if being called a Christian -in the true sense of the word- meant following Christs' example of loving each other as much as themselves,
being kind, feeding the hungry,visiting those in hospitals etc. instead of fighting over the "my church is better than your church" mentality
of judging and condemning and thinking they are God's favorites?

 

[Aardvark154]

Even Jesus blasted the so called 'religious' leaders for their many rules and regulations.

He healed a man on their 'holy' day and his compassion made them hate him even more!

He was also accused of being a friend of drunks and prostitutes.

Sounds like alot of people have thrown the baby out with the bathwater when it comes to what it means to be called a Christian.

What if being called a Christian -in the true sense of the word- meant following Christs' example of loving each other as much as themselves,
being kind, feeding the hungry,visiting those in hospitals etc. instead of fighting over the "my church is better than your church" mentality
of judging and condemning and thinking they are God's favorites?

Anabaptists would agree with you.

 

[WoodPeckr]

Anabaptists would agree with you.

So would many Roman Catholics, along with those renegade Ruskie's in that Eastern Orthodox Great Schism....

 

[WoodPeckr]

Is Christianity a form of totalitarianism?

In the sense that ALL religions practice 'mind control' to keep their 'flock' in line, YES Christianity and other religions are a form of totalitarianism.