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A classic example of pretzel logic and circuitous reasoning on your part leading to a totally false conclusion.

YOU are the one that supports and applauds every Hamas action. YOU are the one never condemning their terrorism. YOU are the one that approves the use of their own civilians as human shields. YOU are the one that wants Hamas to keep holding onto the hostages instead of releasing them for the sake of reaching a ceasefire agreement.

I consistently post saying how barbaric and evil Hamas' actions are. Only you could come up with a nickname for me that could not be further from the truth.

FYI, feel free to keep using it because it reflects more on you and your inability to address reality than it does on me, Geno.
Every accusation by a ziontologist is a confession.
 
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Israel has no other leverage on the US.
Right. All Israel has is leverage on the US. Through it's lobby that buys compliance, and punishes non-compliance.

The day Israel loses that leverage, they're finished. No other country will give them the size of handouts that the US does.
 
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No, hammy, you are the one that supports every single crime you accuse Hamas of doing when Israel does it.
Here is reality. Here is the truth. No amount of your spinning will change these.

YOU are the one that supports and applauds every Hamas action. YOU are the one never condemning their terrorism. YOU are the one that approves the use of their own civilians as human shields. YOU are the one that wants Hamas to keep holding onto the hostages instead of releasing them for the sake of reaching a ceasefire agreement.

I consistently post saying how barbaric and evil Hamas' actions are. Only you could come up with a nickname for me that could not be further from the truth.

Do you condemn Oct.7 as an act of terror? NO
Do you condemn Hamas using Gazans as human shields? NO.
Do you feel that Hamas should agree to release the hostages if it will bring about a ceasefire? NO.

You routinely reinforce my points.
 

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I consistently post saying how barbaric and evil Hamas' actions are. Only you could come up with a nickname for me that could not be further from the truth.
Hammy, every act that you accuse Hamas of doing, you back it when Israel does it more.
Even the ones you just imagine happened, like genocide and rape, you cheer it on when Israel does it.

Every accusation is a confession, hammy.

Its a good thing you don't speak for Jews.


 
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shack

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Right. All Israel has is leverage on the US. Through it's lobby that buys compliance, and punishes non-compliance.

The day Israel loses that leverage, they're finished.
Their leverage is the intelligence and geographic advantage they have. There is no country in the region capable of or has the willingness to provide those to the US. Why don't the oil-uber rich Arab nations spend more? Answer: Because they don't give a shit about the Palestinians. Israel will retain their leverage for quite some time and it's NOT because of the lobby. Israel has almost carte blanche to do as they see fit. That ain't changing anytime soon.
 

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Their leverage is the intelligence and geographic advantage they have. There is no country in the region capable of or has the willingness to provide those to the US. Why don't the oil-uber rich Arab nations spend more? Answer: Because they don't give a shit about the Palestinians. Israel will retain their leverage for quite some time and it's NOT because of the lobby. Israel has almost carte blanche to do as they see fit. That ain't changing anytime soon.
Sure, shack,sure.

 

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Not being happy with something is called being unhappy. Not jealous.
Regardless, the end result is your continuous whining.

Yes the fact that the US wants to be a paypig, does not change the fact that they are infact paypigs being manipulated by Israel, which is my point. But that is not in the best interests of the citizens.
Sticks and stones may break some bones but name-calling is loser talk.

And yes, Israel does not execute people for being gay. They just execute them for being Palestinians. Which is why it is genocide.
They kill Palis because Hamas continues to put them in harm's way, after Hamas commits terrorism against Israel. Hamas is the executioner of the Gazans.
 

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Every accusation by a ziontologist is a confession.
I'm assuming that you do know that you are referring to someone who studies Zionism and does not necessarily practise it. Actually, I don't think that it's an actual word, anyways.
 

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Regardless, the end result is your continuous whining.

Sticks and stones may break some bones but name-calling is loser talk.


They kill Palis because Hamas continues to put them in harm's way, after Hamas commits terrorism against Israel. Hamas is the executioner of the Gazans.
Yes we know Israel is killing Palestinians and committing genocide. And calling the US Israel's paypig is just the truth. That is the dynamic of the relationship between the 2 countries whether you like it or not.
 
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shack

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Right. All Israel has is leverage on the US. Through it's lobby that buys compliance, and punishes non-compliance.

The day Israel loses that leverage, they're finished. No other country will give them the size of handouts that the US does.
Israel uses technology, geography and their intelligence agencies to gain and maintain the support of the US. What other countries are able and willing to provide those to the US?

Please provide a list of other Middle Eastern nations in that position. Until that time, repeating your false narrative about the Israel lobby instead of the reality of the situation, you will receive the same reply. You are unable to provide a single nation other than Israel in that position.
 

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Israel uses technology, geography and their intelligence agencies to gain and maintain the support of the US. What other countries are able and willing to provide those to the US?

Please provide a list of other Middle Eastern nations in that position. Until that time, repeating your false narrative about the Israel lobby instead of the reality of the situation, you will receive the same reply. You are unable to provide a single nation other than Israel in that position.
Israel is using US tech and weapons to commit genocide, hammy.
There is no advantage to the US to becoming the sponsor of genocide.

 

shack

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Hammy, every act that you accuse Hamas of doing, you back it when Israel does it more.
Even the ones you just imagine happened, like genocide and rape, you cheer it on when Israel does it.
Geno, I think all of your spinning is making you dizzy. Your pretzel logic makes no sense and is not based on reality. There is no genocide occurring based on the UN. The body of the UN has passed no such resolution/declaration. You have told us that we must obey what the body of the UN tells us. Please follow your own advice.
 

shack

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No, shack.
There is nowhere safe to go.
Much less room than before, but Hamas has been using human shields since day 1, when there were more safe places. Hamas did not allow the Gazans to flee.
 

shack

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Yes we know Israel is killing Palestinians and committing genocide.
Neither the UNSC nor the General Assembly of the UN thinks so. No resolutions declaring that has been passed. As such, when you keep declaring that Israel is committing genocide is blatantly false and should be considered hate speech. You are spewing rhetoric which is not based on facts, just your own biased opinion.
 

Kautilya

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Neither the UNSC nor the General Assembly of the UN thinks so. No resolutions declaring that has been passed. As such, when you keep declaring that Israel is committing genocide is blatantly false and should be considered hate speech. You are spewing rhetoric which is not based on facts, just your own biased opinion.
The ICJ has already ruled that Israel needs to stop genocide and stop incitement to genocide. Israel is a state and criticizing a state's genocidal actions is not hate speech. On the other hand, your support for a genocidal state's actions against an ethnic group, is infact hate speech.
 
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