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shack

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What is in the aid package for Israel passed by the US House?
The bill allocates $26.38bn to “support Israel in its effort to defend itself against Iran and its proxies”, as well as reimbursing US military operations in response to recent attacks.
The funding includes:
  • $5.2bn to replenish and expand Israel’s missile and rocket defence system
  • $3.5bn for purchasing advanced weapons systems
  • $1bn to enhance weapons production
  • $4.4bn for other supplies and services to Israel
  • $9.2bn in humanitarian aid
Clearly that invalidates your claim that Israel is not an ally of the US.
 

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Why, because they lobby and get US cash for genocide?
That makes no sense.
An ally wouldn't be asking for billions in handouts every single year.
An ally would not only ask for it but they would then get it. And this is the reality of what is happening right now. I know you don't like it, but that's your problem.

It's not a difficult concept Geno. Actually it's a transaction. Israel provides intelligence and security for American interests and in return Israel gets the money. The US needs Israel almost as much as Israel needs the US. It's a symbiotic relationship that Israel figured out a long time ago. Meanwhile the Palestinians still think that terrorist attacks, hostage taking and violent protests will further their cause. D'uhh.

If lobbying is so effective, the oil-rich Arab nations could outspend the pro-Israel lobby by 100 fold in the blink of an eye. The lobby has very little to do with it.
 

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An ally would not only ask for it but they would then get it. And this is the reality of what is happening right now. I know you don't like it, but that's your problem.

It's not a difficult concept Geno. Actually it's a transaction. Israel provides intelligence and security for American interests and in return Israel gets the money. The US needs Israel almost as much as Israel needs the US. It's a symbiotic relationship that Israel figured out a long time ago. Meanwhile the Palestinians still think that terrorist attacks, hostage taking and violent protests will further their cause. D'uhh.

If lobbying is so effective, the oil-rich Arab nations could outspend the pro-Israel lobby by 100 fold in the blink of an eye. The lobby has very little to do with it.
Nonsensical
 

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An ally would not only ask for it but they would then get it. And this is the reality of what is happening right now. I know you don't like it, but that's your problem.

It's not a difficult concept Geno. Actually it's a transaction. Israel provides intelligence and security for American interests and in return Israel gets the money. The US needs Israel almost as much as Israel needs the US. It's a symbiotic relationship that Israel figured out a long time ago. Meanwhile the Palestinians still think that terrorist attacks, hostage taking and violent protests will further their cause. D'uhh.

If lobbying is so effective, the oil-rich Arab nations could outspend the pro-Israel lobby by 100 fold in the blink of an eye. The lobby has very little to do with it.
Israel provides only death, racism and hate.

US House awards Israel $26 Billion so it can go on Killing or Wounding a Palestinian Child every 10 Minutes

 
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So Israel won't bomb an Iranian embassy again then?
That was as close to war with Iran as they'll get?
Lets see. An (assumed) Israeli strike kills top Quds force terrorists in a building beside the embassy, Iran launches 300 missiles and drones at Israel, Israel launches non-explosive test missiles at a field somewhat close to Iranian facilities.

I much prefer Israel's role in this rather that the Mullahs you drool over.
 
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... Israel provides intelligence and security for American interests...
Plus field tested Israeli air defense tech.

Of course Frank is more concerned about American jews lobbying their government than he is about anything else.
 

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Lets see. An (assumed) Israeli strike kills top Quds force terrorists in a building beside the embassy, Iran launches 300 missiles and drones at Israel, Israel launches non-explosive test missiles at a field somewhat close to Iranian facilities.

I much prefer Israel's role in this rather that the Mullahs you drool over.
Lets see, basketcase defends bombing an embassy.
Basketcase defends apartheid, illegal occupation, illegal blockade and genocide.

I much prefer peace, equal rights and the rule of law.


 
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Plus field tested Israeli air defense tech.

Of course Frank is more concerned about American jews lobbying their government than he is about anything else.
Israel tests the weapons it exports on civilians in Gaza.
GAZA: A CRUEL TESTING GROUND FOR ISRAEL’S WEAPONS-MARKETING CAMPAIGN
 
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Israel provides only death, racism and hate.
And that's why the US sends them $28B? That is a ridiculous post and does not at all address my point of how Israel provides significant resources to American interests in the region.

Why does the US keep sending them money? Do you have a serious answer?
 

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They're collecting tribute.
I agree. Tribute for supporting American interests in the region. Something that no other country in the region is capable of.
 

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I much prefer peace, equal rights and the rule of law.
Hollow words.

In reality, you support the continuation of war. You support Hamas' refusal to return hostages, which ensures more Gazan deaths.

You should be more honest about your intentions.
 

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And that's why the US sends them $28B? That is a ridiculous post and does not at all address my point of how Israel provides significant resources to American interests in the region.

Why does the US keep sending them money? Do you have a serious answer?
Yes, AIPAC spends hundreds of millions on buying politicians and those politicians gift Israel billions back.
Whether there is also covert, Epstein like crap going on as well, nobody knows.
But what AIPAC spends is well known, hammy.
 

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I agree. Tribute for supporting American interests in the region. Something that no other country in the region is capable of.
What interests do they protect?
Interest in apartheid?
Interest in colonization?
In genocide?

What answers, hammy?
 

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Yes, AIPAC spends hundreds of millions on buying politicians and those politicians gift Israel billions back.
A drop in the ocean to what oil rich arab nations could spend.....assuming they wanted to help the Palis. Why are the Saudis more interested in spending on golfers, soccer players and race cars than they are on Palestinians?

Regardless, US aid is almost entirely tied to the strategic benefits that only Israel can provide in regards to US interests. I ask you once again, what other countries in the region can provide to the US that Israel does? You're shooting blanks so far.
 

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What interests do they protect?
Interest in apartheid?
Interest in colonization?
In genocide?

What answers, hammy?
You clearly cannot respond to my point with a serious answer.

I've already pointed out what Israel provides to the US several times? It is up to the US to decide who can do the most for them. Their actions clearly say that Israel is their ally. Deal with that fact. It's the reality of the situation.
 
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