"Iran cannot have nukes" Trump warns
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Is it as real as this?While we're sharing book ideas...let's at least share real ones...
First, it was an act of war whether you think so or not. Iran drone strikes the head of the joint chiefs of the usa, would usa not consider it an act of war?
Second - Obama more wartime president? More than ...Bush I? Bush II? Nixon? LBJ? JFK? Truman? FDR? Hmm...
In fact, since you're interested in facts, hostile Action deaths for US presidents:
Biden (4 years): 16
Trump (4 years): 65
Obama (8 years): 1,517
GW Bush (8 years): 3,783
Clinton (8 years): 1
GHW Bush (4 years): 170
Reagan (8 years): 58 (+ 263 marines blown up in Lebanon)
Carter had like 18.
Nixon had 47,000.
LBJ had like 30,000.
Obama inherited 2 wars. He shut one down fully. He didnt start any.
You could look it up. I did. Don't rely on pundits or tweets! You can check yourself, maybe my maths is off a bit.
You stick to your parameters and I'll stick to mine. Your 3rd map proves my point. Nothing changed between 1948 and 1967I am talking about what they were granted in the UN plan in 1947, they started the genocide before the ink was properly dry on the paper.
Funny how you deliberately exclude the Nakhba year. https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakba "Oh after the genoide everything was JUST FINE. " That is like Germany saying other then 1940 to 1945, Jews were just fine in Germany. No problems at all!!! Whats a few years.
No. I said this:
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But they did, didn't they. Instead of trying to make the best of a situation they didn't like by taking what was offered to them, they made it worse by by saying no and stomping their foot like a petulant child and now they've been refugees for 80 years.
Well boo hoo hoo to them. Decisions have consequences.
We've debated this before with the same conclusion. Israel has a homeland the Arabs/Palis do not.
My point is that there was no expansionism from 1948-67 because Israel was not under severe attack.Funny how you deliberately exclude the Nakhba year. https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakba "Oh after the genoide everything was JUST FINE. " That is like Germany saying other then 1940 to 1945, Jews were just fine in Germany. No problems at all!!! Whats a few years.
It's a direct cause and effect situation.
No Arab aggression between 1948-67 resulted in no loss of land. Repeated Arab aggression (cause) starting with the 6 day war in 1967 until current time has resulted in repeated loss of land (effect). Your maps bare out my point.
There's a lesson in there for you.
You are not counting all the US advisors that have died in Ukraine secretly, but then again its hard to get a reliable figure on those.
False. That is not what you said. Here is a direct quote from you.
‘Here is the message to the American president in 1948 confirming that Israel has announced that its borders are those stipulated in Resolution 181.
Here is a map of those boriders. You will immediately see that it nothing like the map of 1967. What’s appalling is that the letter to the US President was also a lie - Israel had already stolen Palestinian land beyond the borders it promised it had accepted. POS Nation never stops lying. Just like its supporters.
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Nothing in that article contradicts what I said.
You asked specifically about how many wars were started.
I answered with the facts.
It isn't my fault that upsets you.
You are confirming my claims by your refusal to say that Palestinians have rights and the State of Palestine has the same right to exist as Israel.
Clearly you do not believe Palestinians and Palestine have rights.
So you think Ukrainians shouldn't stomp their feet and resist either?
Or is this once again you arguing that you don't think Palestinians have any human rights since they are not the 'chosen people'?
What's interesting is that your position sounds way worse than that of Sinwar.
Your argument is that after the Nabka there was no resistance until 1967 so Palestinians should have been happy living under occupation?
That's what it looks like you're arguing, if that's not your intent then clear it up.
To me it looks like you think that zionists enacting the Nabka and ethnically cleansing 750,000 Palestinians from their homes led to what you think is 'peace' for 2 decades.
Are you defending the Nabka?
Trump is proposing (agreeing with Israel about) a second Nabka, removing the rest of the Palestinians from the Gaza strip, so it can be developed into beachfront luxury resorts.
Human rights and equality are anathema to Ziontologists. They will do absolutely anything to avoid it.
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