iPhone 4 Review

[WoodPeckr]

Hey!

WTF the iPhone 4 is sleek, 'bright & shiny', made by Apple and costs $700 so it has to be perfect!....

 

[AnimalMagnetism]

*cough* Nexus One *cough* =)

http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/android/thread?tid=34ae2c179184c33e&hl=en

HAHA nice one djk. a thread from February on a phone that google sold about 25 of(ok maybe a few more, but it was a failed experiment)

but iPhone problems are POURING in!! phone shutting off, phone failing to turn on, freezing, reception and on an on and it's only out for 1 day
have a look here at Apples support forums http://discussions.apple.com/forum.jspa?forumID=1378
i love the part where they say if you're experiencing reception problems, then you're holding the phone wrong lol



Quality Complaints Dog iPhone Launch

 

[WoodPeckr]

i love the part where they say if you're experiencing reception problems, then you're holding the phone wrong lol

NOW THAT IS FUNNY!
You would have to be a Apple fanboi drunk on Apple iJuice to swallow that one!...

 

[AnimalMagnetism]

NOW THAT IS FUNNY!
You would have to be a Apple fanboi drunk on Apple iJuice to swallow that one!...

yep and thats right from Steve Jobs lol
Steve Jobs: Just Don't Hold the iPhone 4 That Way

As a legion of new iPhone 4 owners found out yesterday, the seemingly ingenious steel band antennae design turned out to be one glaring drawback in terms of reception.

Specifically, hands wrapped around the antenna break on the left side of the device would quickly kill the cellular reception.

Many worried iPhone 4 consumers emailed Steve Jobs directly about the issue, and the Apple CEO has replied with various answers. One of the most dissatisfying is the following exchange between Steve Jobs and new iPhone 4 owner Rory Sinclair, as detailed on his blog.

Hi Steve,_____

So, um, just got my iPhone 4. Its lovely and all, but this 'bridge the two antennae to kill your reception' thing seems to be a bit serious. If I bridge them with my hand or with a piece of metal the bars slowly drop to 'Searching...' and then 'No Service'.

Its kind of a worry. Is it possible this is a design flaw?

Regards

- Rory Sinclair

[Steve Jobs'] reply:

Nope. Just don't hold it that way.

[Sinclair] texted someone from the phone and noticed reception dropping as [he] texted, down to 'No Service', so [he] emailed again:

Actually, its not calls that concern me, but i've just been writing a text and its very natural for me as a right-handed person to hold it that way, with the part of my hand at the base of my thumb covering the point the antennae meet, and it kills the reception each time.

I mean, pretty much as soon as i move my hand it comes back, but its pretty crazy... is this the reason Bumpers exist?

- Rory

[Steve Jobs replied]:

Just don't hold it that way then.

[Sinclair emails back]:

Well, yeah, thats what i'll do, but you have to admit thats a workaround, yeah? I mean, normally there aren't limits to how you can hold a phone.

I seriously dig the phone, its totally amazing, but I think this is what many would call a design flaw.

- Rory

[Steve Jobs' last reply]:

Sure there are - every phone has these areas of sensitivity, depending on the location of the antenna. Some phones even ship with labels warning customers to not cover certain areas with their hands.

After a few other "Non issue. Just avoid holding it in that way" responses, Steve Jobs (and the rest of Apple support) arrived at the following official statement:

Gripping any phone will result in some attenuation of its antenna performance, with certain places being worse than others depending on the placement of the antennas. This is a fact of life for every wireless phone. If you ever experience this on your iPhone 4, avoid gripping it in the lower left corner in a way that covers both sides of the black strip in the metal band, or simply use one of many available cases.

Such attitude only adds fuel to the fire of speculation that Apple's move to introduce its own "bumper" cases was just an admission of the problem and a chance at the resulting cash grab.

It's interesting to note that some people on YouTube have demonstrated that holding the iPhone 3G and 3GS in the same manner results in a similar drop in signal, but thus far we haven't been able to reproduce the same thing on our own units.

One more thing. This image hit reddit, perhaps mocking the discontinuity of Apple's statements and its adverts.

click for image

early adopters getting "jobbed" lol what an arrogant ass

 

[onthebottom]

I can only speak for myself (anyone else with first person experience should add those) but I've had none of these issues.

OTB

 

[djk]

HAHA nice one djk. a thread from February on a phone that google sold about 25 of(ok maybe a few more, but it was a failed experiment)

The Nexus One sold more than that. Funny however, I remember being told by all the basement dwellers that Google selling direct to the public was going to shake things up for the iPhone. Anyways, this is being blown up by the media because of Apple's popularity.

The iPhone 3G and iPhone 3GS had the exact same issue. It went away (probably with a software update) and Apple sold truckloads. The same thing will happen here.

 

[djk]

I can only speak for myself (anyone else with first person experience should add those) but I've had none of these issues.

OTB

A lot of people in iPhone/Mac forums have tried to reproduce and reported back being unsuccessful. It's happening to a select few and its become a very loud echo chamber thanks to the media.

Apple being Apple, probably will step up and fixes it via updates or gives away free bumpers to anyone impacted.

 

[onthebottom]

A lot of people in iPhone/Mac forums have tried to reproduce and reported back being unsuccessful. It's happening to a select few and its become a very loud echo chamber thanks to the media.

Apple being Apple, probably will step up and fixes it via updates or gives away free bumpers to anyone impacted.

That's why I started these (iPhone 4 and iPad) threads, something to be said for hands on experience.

OTB

 

[Cassini]

I can only speak for myself (anyone else with first person experience should add those) but I've had none of these issues.

RF can be affected by the amount of sweat on your hands. The presence of surface coatings, oxidation, and rust on the phone. The bodies natural pH balance and conductivity can affect RF. Physical closeness to the WiFi transmitter can affect RF, along with other objects (particularly electronics, metal and water) in the room. RF is affected by everything.

Adjusting the old TV's was a nightmare. One adjusted the circuit, made everything perfect, stepped back 3', and everything was totally different. It is amazing that the iPhone 4 even works in that small package ...

 

[onthebottom]

Based on this I won't be the only one speaking from first hand experience for long.... it's remarkable that Apple entered the phone business in 2007 and they are in the position they are from an overall market share perspective.... very impressive:

Apple announces iPhone 4 sold 1.7 million in first three days

By AppleInsider Staff
Published: 08:40 AM EST

Apple on Monday announced that it sold more than 1.7 million units of the iPhone 4 in its first three days of availability, marking the strongest sales debut for an iPhone yet.

"This is the most successful product launch in Apple's history," Apple Chief Executive Steve Jobs said. "Even so, we apologize to those customers who were turned away because we did not have enough supply."

The numbers shatter last year's record, when the iPhone 3GS sold a million units in its first three days. Earlier this month, Apple revealed that the iPhone 4 hit 600,000 preorders on its first day alone.

It took Apple 74 days, or approximately two and a half months, to sell its first million iPhones back in 2007. The launch of the iPhone 3G in 2008 resulted in a million devices sold in just the first three days.

The launch of the iPhone 4 was also bolstered by an immediate presence in more international countries. Last Thursday, the handset launched in the U.S., France, Germany, the U.K. and Japan. Apple has plans to expand the international launch of iPhone 4 to 87 countries by September, its fastest global deployment of a new handset.

Apple's launch sales of 1.7 million devices exceed some analysts' expectations, who saw Apple selling 1.5 million of the iPhone 4 at launch.

Supplies of the iPhone 4 were constrained at launch, and Apple stopped accepting launch preorders just a day after they became available. Apple was forced to temporarily suspend its toll-free number due to demand, and AT&T, the exclusive wireless carrier of the iPhone in the U.S., struggled to verify eligibility of its existing customers as the company's servers slowed to a crawl.

 

[djk]

Based on this I won't be the only one speaking from first hand experience for long.... it's remarkable that Apple entered the phone business in 2007 and they are in the position they are from an overall market share perspective.... very impressive:

Apple announces iPhone 4 sold 1.7 million in first three days

Now let's get on Verizon.

 

[AnimalMagnetism]

lol i knew you guys were gonna be all excited, like giggly little schoolgirls with the reports of 1.7 million sold and sell outs. but not to put a damper on the festivities but perhaps add a little perspective

it's the first time the iPhone has been rolled out simultaneous in so many countries(USA, France, Germany, UK and Japan)
Reports are that 77% of sales are from Apple upgraders
and reports of it being sold out are false. Sold out in Apple stores yes, but limited supplies in Best Buy, Radio Shack and Walmart

but all in all i hope you're happy with your new toys

and for those experiencing problems here is the Apple support forum to help you out
http://discussions.apple.com/forum.jspa?forumID=1378

 

[onthebottom]

Now let's get on Verizon.

Why move to CDMA.... I would think T-Mobile would be a better partner.

OTB

 

[JEFF247]

Why move to CDMA.... I would think T-Mobile would be a better partner.

OTB

For me it's because Verizon has the best network. T-Mobile & Nexus One very tempting. Call reliabilty my first priority. So many bad reports about AT&T. I won't even consider them. So no iPhone for me.

Hat's off to Apple for livening up the cell industry, but Android is making HUGE gains. I played with an iPhone 4 yesterday. Nice, but the HTC Incredible is just as good, if not better. Only trouble is, I have to wait for a month to get one because thay are back ordered. And now they have the Droid X with a bigger screen, HDMI out and HD video cam. I'm already thinking about the Droid X and I don't even have my Incredible yet!!

It's going to be a real slugfest for market share and that's good for us.

 

[onthebottom]

For me it's because Verizon has the best network. T-Mobile & Nexus One very tempting. Call reliabilty my first priority. So many bad reports about AT&T. I won't even consider them. So no iPhone for me.

Hat's off to Apple for livening up the cell industry, but Android is making HUGE gains. I played with an iPhone 4 yesterday. Nice, but the HTC Incredible is just as good, if not better. Only trouble is, I have to wait for a month to get one because thay are back ordered. And now they have the Droid X with a bigger screen, HDMI out and HD video cam. I'm already thinking about the Droid X and I don't even have my Incredible yet!!

It's going to be a real slugfest for market share and that's good for us.

I agree, I like the competition that Apple is getting from the Google HW partners - RIM just wasn't up to the fight.

CDMA is North America and Japan only, you would have to never travel to consider a Verizon phone.

OTB

 

[AnimalMagnetism]

Iphone 4, Will it blend?

 

[slowandeasy]

Does anyone remember the old joke? I think it was from some comedian's shtick.

Man walks into a doctors office and says: "doctor, it hurts when I do this"... Doctor says: then don't do that...

I am flabbergasted to see in one of the videos above, there was a line up for the iphone. Don't these people have lives?

 

[JEFF247]

I agree, I like the competition that Apple is getting from the Google HW partners - RIM just wasn't up to the fight.

CDMA is North America and Japan only, you would have to never travel to consider a Verizon phone.

OTB

I travel alot. But if I leave the country, I have a cheap GSM phone that I buy SIM cards for.

 

[onthebottom]

I travel alot. But if I leave the country, I have a cheap GSM phone that I buy SIM cards for.

That seems like a pain.

That said I'll do the same with my iPad in South Africa next month, buy cheap Pay-as-you-go data SIMs so I can surf while I safari....

OTB

 

[djk]

Hat's off to Apple for livening up the cell industry, but Android is making HUGE gains.

Android is only making huge gains due to the fact Apple is exclusive with AT&T. Since the other carriers can't get the iPhone (yet), they've turned to Google for competitors to it.

Android seems like the wild wild west where everything goes.

http://nanocr.eu/2010/06/27/googles-mismanagement-of-the-android-market/
http://news.cnet.com/8301-27080_3-20008518-245.html

Spyware on your Android phone? While Apple wants to leave the PC era behind, Google seems to want bring it to your phone. Spyware, task managers and all.