International Holocaust Remembrance Day

[Frankfooter]

Franky doesn't like Israel getting money because that decreases the chance of Palestinian militants and the few remaining enemy Arabs states will be able to wipe out Israel.

You must have a really sad view of Israel if you think ending apartheid will 'wipe it out'.

A Threshold Crossed

The 213-page report, “A Threshold Crossed: Israeli Authorities and the Crimes of Apartheid and Persecution,” examines Israel’s treatment of Palestinians. It presents the present-day reality of a single authority, the Israeli government, ruling primarily over the area between the Jordan River and...

www.hrw.org

 

[shack]

There are lots of examples, you'd just have to weed through the posts to find them.

If they were that easy to find you'd do it yourself and shut me up in a split second. Instead you tried your ridiculous gimmick.

There are zero posts. You are a fraud and fool no one. The fact that you're an anti-Semite and disingenuous debater has been proved once again. You have no class.

 

[Klatuu]

I wasn't talking to you, Junior.

Running again. True to form. But let’s face it, you are making yourself such an easy target with your hypocrisy. It’s kind of pathetic.

 

[Klatuu]

If they were that easy to find you'd do it yourself and shut me up in a split second. Instead you tried your ridiculous gimmick.

There are zero posts. You are a fraud and fool no one. The fact that you're an anti-Semite and disingenuous debater has been proved once again. You have no class.

We are still waiting for you deal with your own Islamaphobic rep. Plus you’ve been challenged many times to show a single example where you condemn Israeli terrorism…you know, exactly what you expect of others. But you run every time.

 

[Klatuu]

I have no such rep. You and frank are the first to claim that. Two anti-Semites.

Awww…shucks shack…What have i said that makes me an antisemite?

Hey…you know the drill…it’s the same one you are always demanding of others…give me a link to one post where I’m antisemitic.

How much does anyone want to bet that shack doesn’t produce a post and turns turtle again?

 

[Frankfooter]

If they were that easy to find you'd do it yourself and shut me up in a split second. Instead you tried your ridiculous gimmick.

There are zero posts. You are a fraud and fool no one. The fact that you're an anti-Semite and disingenuous debater has been proved once again. You have no class.

Supporters of apartheid should never accuse anyone else of racism.
Supporters of apartheid who lie repeatedly and make false accusations even more so.

People who can't define 'terrorism' shouldn't accuse others of supporting it.
People who can't state where the borders of a country lie shouldn't claim terrorism is happening there.
People who refuse to call out terrorism themselves shouldn't accuse others of supporting terrorism.

The 3rd denunciation since your false accusation is here.

Meanwhile, you are defending apartheid.

Apartheid

The Israeli regime enacts in all the territory it contols (Israeli sovereign territory, East Jerusalem, the West Bank, and the Gaza Strip) an apartheid regime. One organizing principle lies at the base of a wide array of Israeli policies: advancing and perpetuating the supremacy of one group –...

www.btselem.org

 

[shack]

Supporters of apartheid should never accuse anyone else of racism.
Supporters of apartheid who lie repeatedly and make false accusations even more so.

People who can't define 'terrorism' shouldn't accuse others of supporting it.
People who can't state where the borders of a country lie shouldn't claim terrorism is happening there.
People who refuse to call out terrorism themselves shouldn't accuse others of supporting terrorism.

The 3rd denunciation since your false accusation is here.

Meanwhile, you are defending apartheid.

Apartheid

The Israeli regime enacts in all the territory it contols (Israeli sovereign territory, East Jerusalem, the West Bank, and the Gaza Strip) an apartheid regime. One organizing principle lies at the base of a wide array of Israeli policies: advancing and perpetuating the supremacy of one group –...

www.btselem.org

Ducking, dodging, deflecting. I am focussed on one thing and one thing only. Have you ever condemned any act of Pali violence PRIOR to me challenging you?

Prior to me calling you out, you had ZERO posts condemning the Palis of terror attacks. Your posts came after I called you out.

I don't care about discussing anything else at this point. Only your posting history.

BTW, how do you enjoy having a sidekick?

 

[Frankfooter]

Ducking, dodging, deflecting. I am focussed on one thing and one thing only. Have you ever condemned any act of Pali violence PRIOR to me challenging you?

Prior to me calling you out, you had ZERO posts condemning the Palis of terror attacks. Your posts came after I called you out.

I don't care about discussing anything else at this point. Only your posting history.

BTW, how do you enjoy having a sidekick?

Yes, I have condemned terrorism by both sides repeatedly on this board for years, including 3 times since you made this accusation.
I also note that you have once again changed the terms of your demand.

Lets talk about your posting history.
You defend apartheid.
You refuse to call out Israeli terrorism.

I fully support 3rd party investigations into all allegations of war crimes and crimes against humanity committed by Palestinians and Israelis based of human rights reports.
You won't.

I challenge you to read through these reports and find legit and documented war crimes or crimes against humanity, or even 'terrorism', and find an accusation that you say I won't call out.

Human rights in Israel and the Occupied Palestinian Territory

Stay up to date on the state of human rights in Israel and the Occupied Palestinian Territory with the latest research, campaigns and education material from Amnesty International.

www.amnesty.org

Then I challenge you to prove I've lied about anything.
If you can't do either, then all you've done is exposed your own racism and support of violence.

 

[shack]

Yes, I have condemned terrorism by both sides repeatedly on this board for years, including 3 times since you made this accusation.
I also note that you have once again changed the terms of your demand.

Lets talk about your posting history.
You defend apartheid.
You refuse to call out Israeli terrorism.

I fully support 3rd party investigations into all allegations of war crimes and crimes against humanity committed by Palestinians and Israelis based of human rights reports.
You won't.

I challenge you to read through these reports and find legit and documented war crimes or crimes against humanity, or even 'terrorism', and find an accusation that you say I won't call out.

Human rights in Israel and the Occupied Palestinian Territory

Stay up to date on the state of human rights in Israel and the Occupied Palestinian Territory with the latest research, campaigns and education material from Amnesty International.

www.amnesty.org

Then I challenge you to prove I've lied about anything.

I already did.

I don't have a rep as being anti-Muslim even with your pretzel/Bizarro logic. Your argument is ridiculous and not worthy of a defense since I've never been accused.

That is unlike people like Darts and YOU who have been accused by multiple people of being racist. I'm not going down your rabbit hole since my rep is clean.

 

[Frankfooter]

I already did.

I don't have a rep as being anti-Muslim even with your pretzel/Bizarro logic. Your argument is ridiculous and not worthy of a defense since I've never been accused.

That is unlike people like Darts and YOU who have been accused by multiple people of being racist. I'm not going down your rabbit hole since my rep is clean.

And now you've been accused by multiple people of racism.
Congrats.

Keep in mind that CanadaMan says Amnesty is 'terrorist propaganda', basketcase says Defence from Children International are terrorists and the Israeli Minister of the Interior says waving a Palestinian flag is terrorism.
And don't forget, that according to basketcase, the 85% of Canadians that support holding Israel to the law are all also racists.
Oh, and for bonus, both the Greens and NDP are calling out Israeli apartheid, add them to the list of racists or antisemities.

You lied, you can't back up your claims.
You support apartheid and then try to call others racist.

You're doing very well here.

 

[shack]

I already did.

I don't have a rep as being anti-Muslim even with your pretzel/Bizarro logic. Your argument is ridiculous and not worthy of a defense since I've never been accused.

That is unlike people like Darts and YOU who have been accused by multiple people of being racist. I'm not going down your rabbit hole since my rep is clean.

And now you've been accused by multiple people of racism.
Congrats.

You and your little buddy? Very impressive. That means we're still at zero.

Some people get annoyed with me. You are reviled, not just for your racism but also for your disingenuous/sleazy debating tactics and lying.

 

[Frankfooter]

You and your little buddy? Very impressive. That means we're still at zero.

Some people get annoyed with me. You are reviled, not just for your racism but also for your disingenuous/sleazy debating tactics and lying.

Prove it, shack.
Prove I lied anywhere.
Show where and how exactly I've been 'disingenuous or sleazy'.

I get it, you're angry. You're old and you had decades of being the oppressed minority. You probably were all for the BLM protests, like basketcase. You just didn't notice the PLM signs and the way BLM, PLM became part of the decolonization movement. You probably didn't take Meir and Olmert's warning of apartheid seriously, you were probably just happy to not be pushovers and maybe believed it was a desert and not a home for a diverse population.
But now you're the oppressor, now you're backing apartheid. You were warned for decades and did nothing.

So cry me a river.

But more importantly, stop supporting apartheid.
If you want to battle antisemitism, as I also do, you have to battle against all racism.
And apartheid is #2 on the worst possible expressions of racism.

Read some sleazy and disingenous reports from the good and brave Jewish and Palestinian people who work at B'tselem.
Browse through IJVCanada and other groups.
Then join me in a fight against racism, including antisemitism and the Islamaphobia and apartheid that Palestinians live under.

Apartheid

The Israeli regime enacts in all the territory it controls (Israeli sovereign territory, East Jerusalem, the West Bank, and the Gaza Strip) an apartheid regime. One organizing principle lies at the base of a wide array of Israeli policies: advancing and perpetuating the supremacy of one group –...

www.btselem.org

 

[basketcase]

Funny, that statement sounds a lot like hate speech, combined with insults that I hear can get you banned.
...

Go for it.

It's pretty idiotic when you say it's antisemitic to call out targeting of Jews over Israel and when you say it's racist to say Hamas is a terrorist group. All you've got are asinine accusations to cover for the immense inconsistency in your 'moral' stances. You're in a thread about the Holocaust arguing that Israel should be destroyed and it's okay to blame Jews for Israel.

I've called you on it repeatedly. Do you think it racist if people vandalized a Persian restaurant condemning Iran's repression of women? Of course it is but you won't touch it because it means admitting your views are anti-semitic filled with the exact same kind of conspiracies about Jewish control that fed the Holocaust.


Of course some people know about being banned for their racism. Too often they come back the next week with a new handle and continue their campaign. For example, I remember these posters going by flubadub and groggy who had identical obsessions with Israel, identical promotion of anti-semitic tropes, and identical justifications for any anti-Israel action. It's almost like those two guys were the same person.

 

[basketcase]

You must have a really sad view of Israel if you think ending apartheid will 'wipe it out'.

A Threshold Crossed

The 213-page report, “A Threshold Crossed: Israeli Authorities and the Crimes of Apartheid and Persecution,” examines Israel’s treatment of Palestinians. It presents the present-day reality of a single authority, the Israeli government, ruling primarily over the area between the Jordan River and...

www.hrw.org

You must have a very low opinion of Palestinians if you think you can force them to become Israelis.

You keep complaining that Israel has better weapons than Hamas, PFLPP, PIJ and the like and you keep making excuses for their attacks. At no point have you ever promoted forcing Israel and the Palestinian to sit down and hammer out a deal. All you want to do is punish Jews.

 

[basketcase]

Awww…shucks shack…What have i said that makes me an antisemite?
...

Justifying vandalism of Jewish targets over Israel?

 

[basketcase]

We are still waiting for you deal with your own Islamaphobic rep....

Parroting franky's dumb claims isn't a rep. I'm sure that in the minds of the obsessive, criticising anti-semitism means you're Islamophobic but that's your issue to work out.

 

[basketcase]

Yes, I have condemned terrorism by both sides repeatedly on this board for years...

Sure, once in a blue moon you've been forced to admit that Hamas or whomever did something bad, always followed by "but Israel" usually complaining about things like Israel dared try to arrest violent people.

Meanwhile you obsessively condemn any Israeli action as terrorism or use some kind of other emotionally laded language countered by fact.

And usually instead of condemning terrorism committed by a Palestinian, instead you try to redefine terrorism or dismiss it out of hand because there are places you think Jews become legitimate targets just by being there.

 

[Klatuu]

Justifying vandalism of Jewish targets over Israel?

You mean the simple word “Palestine”? It’s like kryptonite to anti-Palestinians. Your reaction reveals its power.

 

[Frankfooter]

You must have a very low opinion of Palestinians if you think you can force them to become Israelis.

You keep complaining that Israel has better weapons than Hamas, PFLPP, PIJ and the like and you keep making excuses for their attacks. At no point have you ever promoted forcing Israel and the Palestinian to sit down and hammer out a deal. All you want to do is punish Jews.

They already are Israelis, they just have no rights.
There is no state of Palestine and they live under Israeli rule.

All I'm arguing for is that they get basic human rights and you get rid of apartheid.
Why do you keep arguing that ending apartheid is 'punishing Jews'? That's an antisemitic trope, basketcase. Its a racist statement.
Apartheid is a government policy, it has nothing to do with the Jewish people.

You must have a very low opinion of Israel if you think it can't exist without apartheid.

 

[Frankfooter]

Justifying vandalism of Jewish targets over Israel?

Still trying to claim that its antisemitic to say 'Free Palestine'?
That's an antisemitic statement, basketcase.
The occupation is illegal, arguing for the application of international law and the end of an illegal occupation is not in any way racist.