International Holocaust Remembrance Day

[Frankfooter]

It's amazing how powerful Israel is, for a country with a population of only 9.5 million people. Israel's military is ranked 4th in the world, only behind Russia, the US, and China.

Israel ranks among 10 most powerful countries in annual list; 4th strongest military

US News & World Report finds Israeli military behind only US, China Russia; country is world's 6th most politically influential and 10th strongest power; but ranks only 37th 'best'

www.timesofisrael.com

Demographics of Israel - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Not really.
Like you say, its a tiny country and it gets $4 billion a year in US funds/weapons.
So far they've taken in $150 billion.

https://sgp.fas.org/crs/mideast/RL33222.pdf

 

[Klatuu]

It's amazing how powerful Israel is, for a country with a population of only 9.5 million people. Israel's military is ranked 4th in the world, only behind Russia, the US, and China.

Israel ranks among 10 most powerful countries in annual list; 4th strongest military

US News & World Report finds Israeli military behind only US, China Russia; country is world's 6th most politically influential and 10th strongest power; but ranks only 37th 'best'

www.timesofisrael.com

Demographics of Israel - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

US News and World Report must have missed this:

Flooded fighter jets were bad for Israeli air force, the cover-up was worse

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www.haaretz.com

 

[Klatuu]

Israel needs every dollar, to fight off Lebanon, Syria and Iran etc

The world’s “4th ranked military power” needs billion dollar handouts to fend off Lebanon? You kind of admitted that Israel isn’t really that powerful.

 

[Frankfooter]

Israel needs every dollar, to fight off Lebanon, Syria and Iran etc

Lebanon hasn't recovered from Israel's last war on them and the harbour explosion. They aren't attacking anyone.
Syria is in an 11 year long revolution and won't attack anyone, though Israel still bombs them pretty regularly.
Iraq is a failed state that is finally starting a very slow recovery.
Iran has never started a war in 200 years, even after Israel used a drone attack, assassinated scientists and attacked their nuclear industry they didn't respond. Plus they are bit busy with protests against their hardcore government.
Come to think of it, Israel has been having massive protests against their new extremist and racist government, though no Palestinians allowed to those protests.

The only real worry is that the native Palestinian population is tired of being killed off at about 1 death a day and might start yet another uprising. Of course they don't have an army or any serious weapons compared to that $4 billion in US bombs and missiles.

Judging by the Israel supporters posts here you wouldn't think it safe until Israel was surrounded by total destruction of all their neighbours. So peaceful.

You guys just don't get it.
If you want to stop the violence end the occupation or apartheid.
Stop threatening and bombing everyone around you.

 

[Klatuu]

Israel has all these dangerous enemies, and yet there still surviving as a country. Seems pretty powerful to me!!

Identifying Israel's Enemies | Jewish Voice

Discover the complex web of Israel's enemies and the ongoing battle for survival. Gain insight into the Middle East conflict and learn how to pray for peace.

www.jewishvoice.org

I think you’d be ideal for this role:

SNL on Hagel: ‘It is vital to Israel’s security for you to go on national television and perform oral sex on a donkey… Would you do THAT for Israel?’

(Hat tip Mondoweiss commenter Les)…

mondoweiss.net

 

[Frankfooter]

IMHO, Israel will just keep everything status quo. Israel wants to preserve the state, they formed in 1948.

If they stuck to partition borders there wouldn't be strife there now.
Even Hamas would settle for the 67 borders.
Unfortunately Israel is lead by a guy who says all the land is Israel now.
So the colonization continues.

 

[shack]

That's a typical response that really proves my point.
You can't back up this claim that I lied so all you can do is a kindergarten level reply.

Its like talking with the convoy supporters who are so sure of themselves but when you try to nail down their views they reply like you did or just run away.

Believe me, if we took a poll here asking if you are anti-Semitic or not at least 80% would say you are.

This is not a court of law. There's plenty of proof in the court of public opinion.

Just look at your posting history where you have never, ever, ever denounced even one single act of violence by the Palis as being terrorism.

At the time I challenged you there were ZERO posts that you could find. You posted something only after I'd challenged you. That was dishonest and why you are a liar.

 

[Klatuu]

Believe me, if we took a poll here asking if you are anti-Semitic or not at least 80% would say you are.

This is not a court of law. There's plenty of proof in the court of public opinion.

Only in your mind.

Case in point.

 

[Frankfooter]

Believe me, if we took a poll here asking if you are anti-Semitic or not at least 80% would say you are.

This is not a court of law. There's plenty of proof in the court of public opinion.

Just look at your posting history where you have never, ever, ever denounced even one single act of violence by the Palis as being terrorism.

At the time I challenged you there were ZERO posts that you could find. You posted something only after I'd challenged you. That was dishonest and why you are a liar.

This board does skew right wing, not surprising considering why its here.
Far more useful are the polls that say 85% of Canadians back the same things I argue for here, equal rights and the equal application of law.
If you want to find a poll that shows how many Canadians support apartheid, be my guest.

And lying?
You just lied yourself.
I posted denunciations and you just wouldn't accept them.
You are the proven liar here and the posts back me up.
Your claim? You've got basketcase and CM as your character witnesses. Go ahead.

I'd post links to prove my argument, but since you're a liar it won't change anything.

2020 Survey on Canadian Attitudes on Israel-Palestine

www.cjpme.org

 

[shack]

And lying?
You just lied yourself.
I posted denunciations and you just wouldn't accept them.

You posted after I'd challenged. When I challenged you there were none. That's why you had to make those up.

We've gone over this already but you keep lying.

 

[Klatuu]

You posted after I'd challenged. When I challenged you there were none. That's why you had to make those up.

We've gone over this already but you keep lying.

We are still waiting for you deal with your own Islamaphobic rep. Plus you’ve been challenged many times to show a single example where you condemn Israeli terrorism…you know, exactly what you expect of others. But you run every time.

 

[basketcase]

No, painting 'Free Palestine' is not antisemitic nor is it an attack on the Jewish people.
That claim is pure antisemitism, where you trying to claim a political statement on an interna...

You are fucking pathetic with your hate speech.

They chose a vehicle meant to educate people about Judaism as a target for commentary about Israel simply because they are Jewish and you disgustingly promote it as a good thing, just like you did with the Canadian rabbi, the Jewish owned store in Markham, and the Jewish owned restaurant.

Writing "Free Palestine" isn't anti-semitic. When you target random Jews with it, it becomes so. Similarly, criticizing Israel is not anti-semitic. You are antisemitic the way you do it.

Then you obsessively promote your Jewish 'friend' to try and prove you're not racist. Of course you're just as racist towards brown people in the way you ignore what they want and promote the idea that they can't be capable of moral behaviour.

For example, this poll you tried to dismiss.




p.s. Still waiting for you to admit the synagogue attack was terrorism.

 

[basketcase]

Who are those “multiple people”? This time you are making the claim so the onus is on you.

Another wonderful contributor in a thread about the Holocaust.

 

[basketcase]

Only 25%, perhaps some of the others want to quibble over definitions. What percentage, do you recon, are Toke-in' Jews??

Tokenism, is using someone's ethnicity to give weight to their comments while routinely dismissing other people of the same ethnicity's comments because of their ethnicity.

 

[shack]

We are still waiting for you deal with your own Islamaphobic rep.

I have no such rep. You and frank are the first to claim that. Two anti-Semites.

 

[basketcase]

Israel has all these dangerous enemies, and yet there still surviving as a country. Seems pretty powerful to me!!

Identifying Israel's Enemies | Jewish Voice

Discover the complex web of Israel's enemies and the ongoing battle for survival. Gain insight into the Middle East conflict and learn how to pray for peace.

www.jewishvoice.org

Franky doesn't like Israel getting money because that decreases the chance of Palestinian militants and the few remaining enemy Arabs states will be able to wipe out Israel.

 

[shack]

We are still waiting for you deal with your own Islamaphobic rep. Plus you’ve been challenged many times to show a single example where you condemn Israeli terrorism…you know, exactly what you expect of others. But you run every time.

I wasn't talking to you, Junior.

 

[Frankfooter]

You posted after I'd challenged. When I challenged you there were none. That's why you had to make those up.

We've gone over this already but you keep lying.

There are lots of examples, you'd just have to weed through the posts to find them. You won't. There was one last week after Jerusalem.
You asked me to denounce Hamas terrorism, I did, then you said it didn't count because of some bullshit.

Do you want me to post your original 'demand' and my reply? Last time I did that you said you 'implied' that I should have done something else. Don't know what the excuse will be this time.
We both know you'll ignore it if I do it, then a day later you'll repeat your accusation that I lied.
Because you're the one lying.
You are the one that won't denounce terrorism.
You are the one supporting apartheid.

The only one lying here is you.
As I showed, multiple times.

 

[Frankfooter]

You are fucking pathetic with your hate speech.

Funny, that statement sounds a lot like hate speech, combined with insults that I hear can get you banned.
And your claim that everything in the world is antisemitic is getting tired.
85% of Canadians back holding Israel to the law, which is all I'm here doing.
25% of US Jews also say Israel is apartheid.
49% of those living under Israeli rule say its apartheid.

Posting a call for equal rights, as I do here, you call me racist.
You don't see the irony there, do you? Well, its not ironic, its really just stupidly hypocritical.

You can't claim others are racist when you're backing apartheid, basketcase.

p.s. Still waiting for you to admit the synagogue attack was terrorism.

I did and I'll post the link as soon as you promise in writing here that you'll admit that you are wrong and promise to apologize.
So?

 

[Frankfooter]

I have no such rep. You and frank are the first to claim that. Two anti-Semites.

You're backing apartheid.
Your accusations of racism are now worthless.

Israel's apartheid against Palestinians

Palestinians are systematically subjected to home demolitions and forced evictions, and live in constant fear of losing their homes. For more than 73 years, Israel has been forcibly displacing entire Palestinian communities. Hundreds of thousands of Palestinians’ homes have been demolished...

www.amnesty.org