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.this is below 5 year old logic...

He's admitted he doesn't understand logic.

He understands Double Speak:
War is Peace
Freedom is Slavery
Ignorance is Strength

 

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If 28K dead Palestinians are not important, then October 7 is not important. This entire conflict is BECAUSE of Israel and their actions. Not because of the Palestinians. Therefore, the Israeli war crimes matter MORE than small terrorist attacks (relatively speaking), that the Hamas has committed. So yes both are war crimes. But the Israeli war crimes are more serious.

A war crime is a war crime is a war crime. There is no ranking system.

You are the one who keeps trying to rank them. You were saying that war crimes against Gaza are more important than the ones against Israel as an ignorant way to say we shouldn't talk about Oct.7. It's irrelevant because it's not the worst. Balderdash.

Maybe you can show us the current standings of the International War Crime Ranking System. Please provide the link.

 

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A war crime is a war crime is a war crime.

Wrong again.
Genocide is the worst crime against humanity possible.
It doesn't get more evil or racist that being genocidal.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1755781889820926181

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1755756055953347011

 

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Yes, but a Genocide is more serious than a war crime.

There is no ranking system.

BTW, a genocide is a war crime. How can it be more serious than a war crime?

Is that more doublespeak from you or just a display of you lack of logic? Your choice.

 

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Genocide is the worst crime against humanity possible.
It doesn't get more evil or racist that being genocidal.

Well, that's Hamas for you.

 

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Yes, Genocide is a war crime but is a special kind of war crime.

LOL. You are too funny. What's on special today? This is more of your gaslighting doublespeak. It's not quite as good as "the ICJ did not tell Israel to stop, which means that the ICJ did tell Israel to stop." That one's my favourite. And you have the nerve to say that you've never engaged in doublespeak?

There is a reason why Genocide is specifically defined, and there is a UN convention for prevention of the same.

Here's news for you. Every crime has a specific definition. EVERYWHERE. D'uh. Jaywalking has a specific definition. Does that prove that jaywalking a war crime because it has a specific definition? Your arguments are getting dumber and dumber.

So yes, there is most definitely a ranking system in terms of severity of crime.

Can you list the ranking order of war crimes from least severe to most severe as ranked by the UN? If a ranking system has been put in place, please show us the list.

You can have your own opinions (as wrong as they are) but please stop the bullshitting.

A ranking system? LOLOLOLOLOL. Now I've heard it all. Hahahahaha.

 

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There is no ranking system.

BTW, a genocide is a war crime. How can it be more serious than a war crime?

Is that more doublespeak from you or just a display of you lack of logic? Your choice.

That's like arguing parking tickets are as bad as murder.

Genocide is the most evil crime humans can do to other humans.

 

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Israel are using snipers to shoot people getting water at hospitals.
Genocide.

Israeli snipers shooting at ‘every moving object’

As we reported earlier, Israeli snipers killed at least 21 people in Khan Younis in the south of Gaza, where displaced Palestinians were gunned down trying to reach Nasser Hospital.
Al Jazeera’s Hani Mahmoud, reporting from Rafah, says that Israeli snipers are surrounding the area of Nasser Hospital and “shooting at every moving object” as people are trying to reach it from the two densely populated residential neighbourhoods from the eastern and the western part of the hospital.
“The area around the hospital is very dangerous, and it has turned into a combat zone,” he said, noting that the hospital area is the only place right now in Khan Younis that has some water left.

 

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That's like arguing parking tickets are as bad as murder.

Genocide is the most evil crime humans can do to other humans.

Evidently you couldn't follow the discussion.

 

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Whats on special today? Ask your buddy Bibi, he may have a 1000 more bodies of Palestinians for you to rejoice over.

On the other hand, yes Genocide is a special kind of war crime, one that the ICJ has asked Israel to not engage in incitement and to not engage in actions amounting to genocide. Intent + incitement + actions = genocide.

Simply your biased opinion. The ICJ does not share the same opinion.

Yes, and not all of them have a UN convention to prevent them. The fact that genocide is specifically defined and the fact that there is a UN convention to specifically prevent that particular war crime, renders genocide a) A special kind of war crime b) The severest war crime that exists, and therefore, ranks above all other war crimes.

Your biased opinion.

And sure if you cannot comprehend the ranking system, here I will rank it for you:

#1: Genocide
#2: Everything else.

I knew that you were talking out of your biased ass. There is no ranking system.

Now if you are arguing that genocide isn't a special kind of war crime,

Too bad that Israel has not been found guilty of genocide.

 

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Simply your biased opinion. The ICJ does not share the same opinion.

Your biased opinion.

I knew that you were talking out of your biased ass. There is no ranking system.

Too bad that Israel has not been found guilty of genocide.

You won't read the ICJ ruling.
Your biased opinion is based on a Dunning Kruger intellect.

Just stop posting until you read the ruling.

 

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ensure their military does not commit genocide.

Correct. They did not say to "stop" genocide. That means that they have not "committed" genocide.

And I already proved how genocide is the most severe war crime, and gave you an example of why as well.

Because it's your opinion proves nothing. You also claimed that there was a "ranking system" and when push came to shove was your ranking system was "genocide and everything else". Let's only focus on genocide because anything else is irrelevant. Every war crime needs to be addressed. They are all evil.

Such compelling proof you provide.

 

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You won't read the ICJ ruling.

Keep on making assumptions.

 

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Keep on making assumptions.

Its been out two weeks and you haven't read it yet.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1754586425020879226

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1754363594118942832

 

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Its been out two weeks and you haven't read it yet.

Keep on making assumptions. You haven't got one correct yet.

 

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There was no reason to ask Israel to stop incitement to genocide and stop genocidal actions, including their military, if no genocide existed.

To try to ensure that the possibility would not actually occur. Which is very different than saying it had occurred.

= genocide. And the ICJ found all 3 were present.

Then why didn't the ICJ clearly say to STOP THE GENOCIDE the same way they clearly told Hamas to RETURN THE HOSTAGES? There's a big inconsistency here that a court like the ICJ would not allow to happen. Or are you smarter than they?

And it is not my opinion.

Of course it it, Mr. Doublespeak.

You said genocide is just like all other war crimes.

That is most definitely not what I said.

I proved to you, that genocide is the most severe war crime, by showing you an example from WW 2.

So one random example creates a universal truth?
All war crimes are heinous. As far as which is worst is simply your own opinion, your own ranking system. And what does it accomplish anyways?

I also showed you how genocide, is specifically defined, and how there is an actual UN convention to prevent the same.

So? Drunk driving is specifically defined and measures are in place to prevent that? Does that make it a war crime?

So clearly there is a ranking.

So where is the rest of the list? I've asked several times to show us their ranking list. Which war crime is 1st, then 2nd, then 3rd etc., etc. Where has the UN listed that? There's no ranking system, just your opinion.....once again.

Heck even in our criminal law, murder is ranked. Murder in self-defence is very different from murder for other reasons which themselves are categorized as 1st degree, 2nd degree, 3rd degree, manslaughter etc.,

Ahh, so criminal law does have an actual ranking list. All I'm asking is for you to produce that same type of ranking list from the UN. What's 1st, what's, 2nd etc., etc.....?

So again, you are not applying your advanced degree in logic here. Or may be you never graduated. You are just pretzeling yourself over and over.

The jokes on you. Every one of your posts was rebutted, and logically. (BTW, I'll admit that some didn't actually require logic, just the truth.) All you have is your opinion, which you've admitted is biased because you hate Jews.

BTW, you love misquoting me. I never said that I a degree in logic, let alone an advanced one. Why can you not quote me properly instead of lying? I said that I took a 4th year level course at UofT and had the top grade in the class at 97%. That is more than enough to prove that I have a more advanced understanding of the topic itself than you and that I am able to think logically, more logically than you. (Waiting for you to call me a liar about the grade. )

 

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Keep on making assumptions. You haven't got one correct yet.

Even valcazar now says its the provisional measures which are the orders Israel must abide.
You are just clueless.

 

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Then why didn't the ICJ clearly say to STOP THE GENOCIDE

The ICJ ordered Israel to prevent killing Palestinians in Gaza.
That would stop the genocide.

Israel is not abiding.

This is a direct quote.

Order of 26 January 2024

THE COURT,
Indicates the following provisional measures: (1) By fifteen votes to two,

The State of Israel shall, in accordance with its obligations under the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, in relation to Palestinians in Gaza, take all measures within its power to prevent the commission of all acts within the scope of Article II of this Convention, in particular:


(a) killing members of the group;

https://www.icj-cij.org/sites/default/files/case-related/192/192-20240126-ord-01-00-en.pdf

 

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The ICJ asked Israel to stop incitement, and actions that amount to genocide.

If they agreed with you, they'd have told Israel to STOP THE GENOCIDE the same way they told Hamas to RETURN THE HOSTAGES. There was no such statement. Only your racist opinion.

There is no reason to ask Israel to stop incitement or actions, and ensure the military did not participate in such actions, if those actions did not already exist.

Doublespeak.

They would have unequivocally absolved Israel.

They did not absolve Israel of promoting bestiality either. By your Bizarro logic, that proves the ICJ said Israel is promoting bestiality.

You said there is nothing special about genocide and that it is just another war crime. I proved to you how it is not just another war crime, but the worst form of war crime there is.

Your biased opinion. Why is this so important to you to categorize one particular war crime is "the worst"? What point are you trying to make?

It is not a random example. It is THE example because of which the UN convention on genocide was adopted in 1948. Also, pray tell us a worse war crime than genocide.

All war crimes are heinous. Do you disagree?

And show me a UN convention on drunk driving. Also, drunk driving is a felony. Where is its connection to a war crime?. How is that even comparable to genocide?. Talk about illogical arguments.

More idiocy and Doublespeak/gaslighting. Drunk driving is not the point. The point is that YOU are the one who claimed that having a definition and means of prevention was proof of a war crime. I pointed out that the same parameters apply to drunk driving which, we agree, is not a war crime. As such your point is moot.

I already provided you a list in my previous post.

I keep asking for the UN's list. Not your personal, and admittedly biased, opinion. You said that there is a ranking system. Your lack of being able to provide said list proves that you're BSing.

Yup rebutted logically. Like logically equating drunk driving to war crimes and genocides. So you dont even have a degree in logic? Were you cross eyed when you got your grades? Make sure it isn't 17% because it reflects badly on UofT, to have awarded someone who equates drunk driving to genocide, a 97% in "logic".

Evidently, I am making points that are over your head. I never equated drunk driving and genocide. The point is that even though they are so far apart from each other, the points that you tried to use to prove that genocide is the "worst" war crime also apply to drunk driving. As such, your point has no merit.

I predicted that you said I was lying. And now you are questioning UofT's credentials as a world class institution. You are grasping at straws if that's the thrust of your claims. Desperate.

 

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Even valcazar now says its the provisional measures which are the orders Israel must abide.
You are just clueless.

I agree with those provisional orders. None of them say that "Israel must stop genocide."

Does Valcazar say that Hamas does not have to obey the order for Hamas to return the hostages?