In the 21st century, anti-Zionism means anti-Semitism

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Hate fuels more hate, problem are the piliticians and their private interests, this hate is than fueled so those same interests can be achieved.

In case of Israel it is the US sponsored ruling elite, in case of Palestine it is the Iranian, and Arab sponsored currents.

Now there is zero reason why the Palestine the small as it is could not exist as a independant teritory within Israel, as long as Israel agrees to honor their differences and freedoms.

But neither side will agree to this because of the outside interferance.

This all said, Israel is 100% one of the most racist countries, but so are all the other countries in its sorounding, Iran, Egypt, theey are no different

In Israel, discrimination based on race, religion, gender or sexuality is illegal.
People of any race, religion, or background are equally welcome to work in Israel’s hospitals, courts, government, army, education system…. the list goes on. There are Arab doctors and nurses, lawyers and judges, members of parliament, local councillors, teachers, professors… you name it. Israelis of different colors and backgrounds have won national prizes of all kinds from Master Chef to beauty queen, and have opportunities to help shape law and society. That’s not to say that there isn’t racism – there is, like every nation. But there are no laws barring anyone from reaching the top of their field on account of race.

ISRAEL IS A MULTICULTURAL DEMOCRACY
The truth is this: If you get on a bus or a train in Israel, it’s not uncommon see a hijab-wearing Arab sitting next to an Orthodox Jew. There is no separation on Israel’s transportation. In a hospital you’ll hear Hebrew and Arabic in the same ward, with Arab and Jewish staff and patients all together. In a university lecture you can look around the room to see all kinds of people represented, learning alongside one another. Indeed, the Arab population of Israel statistically does extremely well academically and many go on to serve in prestigious fields such as law and medicine.

Politics in Israel can be intense and chaotic but there are Arab parties in represented in the Knesset free to make their voices heard. Even if they are anti-Israel. Israel’s law enforcement and military services also have people of all different backgrounds, working together to protect Israel.

Ismail Khaldi, an Arab citizen of Israel and the nations first high-ranking Muslim in the Israeli Foreign Service said the following:

“I am a proud Israeli along with many other non-Jewish Israelis: Druze, Bahai, Bedouin, Christians and Muslims who live in one of the most culturally diverse societies and the only true democracy in the Middle East.”



Israel: An Apartheid State? - ONE FOR ISRAEL Ministry



African Americans in Israel number at least 25,000,[1] comprise several separate groups, including the groups of African American Jews who have immigrated from the United States to Israel making aliyah, non-Jewish African Americans who have immigrated to Israel for personal or business reasons, pro-athletes who formerly played in the major leagues in the United States before playing in Israel on local basketball and other sports teams, as well as foreign students studying in Israeli universities, businessmen, merchants, and guest workers, along with Israeli citizens of African American ancestry. African Americans have served in the Israel Defence Force,[2][3] and have largely been accepted and into Israeli society, and have represented Israel in numerous international forums such as the Olympic Games, and the Eurovision Song Contest. African American-Israelis have had a major cultural impact in Israel, particular in the arts and culture, music and sports.[4] In addition, there as a large community of Black Hebrew Israelites numbering at least 5,000 people, who originally immigrated to Israel from Chicago in the 1960s, and live mostly in the southern Israeli town of Dimona.[3]





  • Since the establishment of the State, the Sharia courts have been under the responsibility of the Ministry of Religious Affairs until they were transferred to the purview of the Ministry of Justice on February 21st 2001.
  • The Sharia courts have existed since the Ottoman Empire, when they served as the court of the state.
  • The British Mandate left the legal situation that preceded it subject to the changes it introduced, and thus the Sharia courts remained in place, but their powers were limited to matters of personal status of Muslims only.


The powers of the Sharia courts
The powers of the Sharia courts were determined in the Proclamation of the King and his Council for the Land of Israel for 1922 – 1947, in accordance with the Procedure of the Muslim Religious Courts Law for the year 1333 H., as follows:

  • Matters pertaining to marriage – proof of marriage, marriage permit, marriage confirmation, wedding gift and dowry.
  • Matters pertaining to divorce – proof of divorce, arbitration, separation and annulment of marriage.
  • Alimony – wife, son, father and grandfather.
  • Guardianship and legal competency.
  • Child support – visitation and hospitality procedures.
  • Genealogy of minors – paternity.
  • Management of assets of missing and incompetent persons.
  • Obedience – domestic peace.
  • Waqf – endowments.
  • Prevention of domestic violence – the Prevention of Domestic Violence Law, 5751 – 1991.
  • Conversion to Islam – the Religious Group (Conversion) Ordinance.
  • Financial relations between spouses - the Financial Relations Between Spouses Law.
About The Sharia Courts | The Sharia Courts (www.gov.il)
 

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You've been defending the ongoing ...
I have repeatedly criticized the settlement movement.

Difference is, homes can be given to new owners while people killed by genocidal terrorist groups like Hamas can't be brought back. Israel's government has flaws but nothing compared to Hamas or a lesser amount the PA.

Which Palestinian leaders endorse the One State peace you want forced upon them? None? So why won't you criticize them?

You keep pretending to endorse peace and human rights but happily make excuses for the Palestinian leadership who completely contradict those concepts.
 

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p.s. Still waiting for you to explain how one actual news story is racist but your endless posting of random tweets (that don't agree with the text they have) is fine.
 

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I have repeatedly criticized the settlement movement.

Difference is, homes can be given to new owners while people killed by genocidal terrorist groups like Hamas can't be brought back.
By that definition, Israel's actions are 10x worse plus they are stealing homes.
Israel regularly kills 10x the number of civilians as Hamas and all Palestinians.

And since 22% of US Jews also think that Israel's government is committing 'genocide', I fail to see why you are targeting only Hamas here.
Clearly the policies you back are 10x worse as Hamas, killing 10x as many civilians with what 1/5 of US Jews say is 'genocidal intent'.


 

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p.s. Still waiting for you to explain how one actual news story is racist but your endless posting of random tweets (that don't agree with the text they have) is fine.
Still waiting for you to understand that claiming 'Free Palestine' is racist is actually an antisemitic trope in of itself.
 
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Still waiting for you to understand that claiming 'Free Palestine' is racist is actually an antisemitic trope in of itself.
It is really difficult to unpack. Palestine is a long series of one colonization issue after another, with people getting killed at every step
 
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It is really difficult to unpack. Palestine is a long series of one colonization issue after another, with people getting killed at every step
It is.

Its also so blatantly obvious, I mean they still call them 'settlers'. You can't be more obvious about your colonial settler aims than this.
 

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gee ain't that a surprise the late Desmond Tutu was an anti-Jewish terrorist sympathizer. futher evidence showing that the pro-Palestinian movement has ZERO, NADA NOTHING to do with the Palestinian People.

The dark side of Desmond Tutu - Daily Friend



The dark side of Desmond Tutu



Although I wrote last week that the late Archbishop Emeritus Desmond Tutu was ‘a remarkable soul, overflowing with decency and humanity’, there’s a dark side to him of which I had only peripherally been aware.

Last week, while writing my tribute to the late Archbishop Emeritus Desmond Tutu, I wrote: ‘I agreed with Tutu on some issues, and differed with him on a number of others.’

In an earlier draft, I had included examples in parentheses. One of the points on which I disagreed with the Arch was his position on Israel. I didn’t think it went much beyond stereotypical solidarity with the Palestinian cause that might be expected of veterans of the liberation movement.

I wrote that Tutu ‘did not exclude or judge those who did not believe as he did’.

It now appears that I may have been wrong.

On the day that my tribute to the late Archbishop Desmond Tutu was published, someone sent me the text of a 2010 article by veteran US lawyer Alan M. Dershowitz. I wasn’t able to find an original copy of the article, but it is reproduced in full here. Dershowitz repeats some of the same claims in this 2011 article.

It must be acknowledged that Dershowitz is a committed supporter of Zionism. However, the way he quotes Tutu’s own words against him makes for disturbing reading. It suggests that Tutu was not just biased against Israel, but expressed some crudely anti-Semitic views.

For several of the quotes in his article, Dershowitz credits a poorly supported but well-sourced petition to remove Tutu as a patron of the Cape Town Holocaust Centre and the Johannesburg Holocaust and Genocide Centre.

A neater death

Statements such as that ‘the gas chambers’ made for ‘a neater death’ than did Apartheid resettlement, are startling in their dismissal of the horror of the Holocaust. Apartheid was indeed an awful form of oppression, and it was indeed a crime against humanity, but it was always a policy of subjugation and exclusion, and not of industrial-scale genocide.

Tutu essentially equated Israelis with Nazis during his one and only visit to Israel in 1989, when he said: ‘We pray for those who made it [the Holocaust] happen. Help us [the Jews] to forgive them and help us so that we in our turn will not make others suffer.’

Holocaust survivor and fellow Nobel Peace Prize laureate Elie Wiesel retorted: ‘No one has the right to forgive except the dead themselves, and the dead were killed and silenced by their murderers. For anyone in Jerusalem, at Yad Vashem, to speak about forgiveness would be, in my view, a disturbing lack of sensitivity to the Jewish victims and their survivors.’

Rabbi Marvin Hier, then dean of the Simon Wiesenthal Center, the largest Holocaust study organisation in the United States, was less diplomatic, calling Tutu’s words ‘a gratuitous insult to the Jews and victims of Nazism everywhere’.

‘Bishop Tutu showed the arrogance of an ancient crusader who had come to Yad Vashem with a bag full of Christian morality,’ Hier reportedly said. ‘The bishop surely knows where that Christian conscience was when millions of Jews and others suffered at the hands of the Nazis.’

Tutu was firmly convinced that Israel is an Apartheid state. I recently had occasion to dispute that view: Israel does not discriminate against anyone. An Arab party is part of its ruling coalition. Arab Israelis have the same rights as Jewish Israelis do. Israel does, however, keep violent enemies who are sworn to its destruction outside its borders.

What Tutu never recognised was that, far from Israelis discriminating against Arabs, it has been the other way around. Arab countries have, without exception, expelled Jews from their territory. Arab countries have, repeatedly, gone to war in attempts to wipe Israel off the map and push the Jews into the sea. It is they who want the Levant to be Judenrein (clean of Jews), as the Nazis would have said.

Peculiar people

‘Whether Jews like it or not, they are a peculiar people. They can’t ever hope to be judged by the same standards which are used for other people,’ Tutu once said. He also believed ‘the Jews’ were responsible for many of the world’s problems.

Imagine saying that about black people, or about Muslims. Whatever happened to equality and human rights for all?

These, and many other statements documented and attributed to Tutu, serve not as constructive criticism of Israel, but as part of a racist campaign to delegitimise the state of Israel.

In doing so, Tutu did not stop at repeating hateful anti-semitic tropes about Jews. He actively supported the terrorist organisation Hamas, and likened its leaders to Nelson Mandela. Leaders who said things like: ‘Have no mercy on the Jews, no matter where they are, in any country. Fight them, wherever you are. Wherever you meet them, kill them.’

As recently as 2016, Tutu nominated a convicted terrorist for the Nobel Peace Prize, in the person of Marwan Barghouti. But Barghouti is not a nonviolent peace-maker who seeks harmonious co-existence between independent Israeli and Palestinian states. He commited violence, openly advocates violence, and supports the destruction of the state of Israel.

Before his conviction and imprisonment for multiple murders, Barghouti was the leader of the military wing of the al-Aqsa Martyrs’ Brigades, a terrorist organisation which conducted thousands of attacks against Israeli civilians. He was also implicated in other terrorist activities, and less than two years before Tutu nominated him had called for a Third Intifada against Israel.

Bigotry and hypocrisy

Hugh Fitzgerald, writing this week in Frontpage Magazine, describes Tutu’s prejudice against Israel as ‘willful ignorance’.

Nil nisi bonum – the Latin tag instructs us to say nothing but good of the dead,’ he writes. ‘But for Archbishop Tutu, who had the most extravagant and ludicrous praise heaped upon him both in life, and now, too, in death, we’ll just have to make an exception.’

Tutu is often likened to the US civil rights campaigner Martin Luther King Jr., and in 1986 received the Martin Luther King Jr. Nonviolent Peace Prize.

He would have done well to heed the words of the late Dr. King, when he said: ‘When people criticize Zionists, they mean Jews. You’re talking anti-Semitism!’

If there is a lesson here, it is to not lionise people, and not gloss over their failures. Even those who appear to be ‘overflowing with decency and humanity’, as I wrote of Tutu, can turn out upon closer examination to harbour a mean streak of bigotry and hypocrisy.

The dark side of Desmond Tutu - Daily Friend
 

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The dark side of Desmond Tutu
Well, I could see why you think he's a 'terrorist'.

Desmond Tutu has formulated his objective as “a democratic and just society without racial divisions”, and has set forward the following points as minimum demands:

1. equal civil rights for all
2. the abolition of South Africa’s passport laws
3. a common system of education
4. the cessation of forced deportation from South Africa to the so-called “homelands”




 

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By that definition, Israel's actions are 10x worse plus they are stealing homes.
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You can make shit up but Canada still sees Israel as a strong trade partner while Hamas and a faction of Fatah are designated terrorist entities.


Of course you think it's racist to admit that Hama's stated goal is eliminating the Jewish presence.
 

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Still waiting for you to understand that claiming 'Free Palestine' is racist is actually an antisemitic trope in of itself.
Still waiting for you to discuss whether it's racist to support women's rights by protesting Canadian Muslim owned businesses because you sure seem okay with targeting Canadian Jews because you have an unhealthy obsession with Israel.
 

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It is.

Its also so blatantly obvious, I mean they still call them 'settlers'. You can't be more obvious about your colonial settler aims than this.
And which Palestinian leaders have endorsed either a One State or Two State peace?
 

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You can make shit up but Canada still sees Israel as a strong trade partner while Hamas and a faction of Fatah are designated terrorist entities.


Of course you think it's racist to admit that Hama's stated goal is eliminating the Jewish presence.
The NDP and Greens are both calling for sanctions on Israel.
The liberals will follow soon, as the majority of Canadians support sanctions.

You're flogging apartheid and settler colonialism in a country that is very much against settler colonialism and racism.
I don't care what you think about Hamas, they are no worse than the Israeli government in their goals.
Let the ICC come in and charge Hamas and Israel for all war crimes.
End apartheid, end the occupation or give Palestinians the vote and equal rights.
 

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The NDP and Greens are both calling for sanctions on Israel.
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And? If they ever get power and actually follow through, we will see. Until then, Israel is a strong trading partner and Hamas (et al) is a designated terrorist entity.

I can also guarantee you that no matter what the NDP says about Israel, you will never see them supporting groups like Hamas with their overt rejection of peace and repeatedly stated goal of creating an Islamic Caliphate without Jews.

And again, which Palestinians leaders support either a full One State peace or Two State peace?
 

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You're fixated on old solutions.
I support the Palestinian BDS movement in its goal to use sanctions to end apartheid.
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The goal of BDS is simply delegitimizing Israel. Like the Palestinian leadership, they refuse to endorse any peace plan.

According to Canada and many other Western democracies,
 
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