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The quote is in reference to your continual posts where you,...
You just called yourself out for the racist you are. I rarely post specific stories about Palestinians except to directly refute your claims while you post endlessly about how evil Israel is. Even worse, the vast majority of your posts aren't news stories but simply tweets from whoever says something you agree with.

You claimed Hamas is interested in peace which is a complete lie. The only peace Hamas will accept is them running an Islamic Caliphate free of Jews. Their Charter and their newer guiding document are 100% clear in that fact. Of course instead of criticizing their opposition to peace and equal rights, you make excuses for them.

You know that the vast majority of Palestinians oppose both a One State and Two State peace, based on a Palestinian polling organization. Of course instead of criticizing their opposition to peace and equal rights, you make excuses for them.

More than half of Palestinians (according to their own polling) support "attacks on Israeli civilians inside Israel". Despite claiming to be opposed to that, you don't have a word of criticism and still try to describe it as self defence (despite what your rights groups say).

And I gave you a specific example this week of Palestinian gunmen targeting Israeli civilians and instead of criticizing that type of act, you scream racist.


Just go back to admitting you support Palestinians attacking Israelis as self defence.
 

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Amazing how you keep trying to hide from this.

You obviously think it's okay to target Canadian Jews with criticism over Israel while think it's racist to target Canadian Muslims over Iran or Saudi Arabia.
You're still pushing that same antisemitic trope, trying to claim that criticizing Israeli policy is an attack on the Jewish people.
Just please stop with the antisemitic tropes already.

IHRA - Holding Jews collectively responsible for actions of the state of Israel.
 

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You just called yourself out for the racist you are. I rarely post specific stories about Palestinians except to directly refute your claims while you post endlessly about how evil Israel is. Even worse, the vast majority of your posts aren't news stories but simply tweets from whoever says something you agree with.
You constantly refer to Palestinians as 'terrorists' and turn every thread into allegations of 'terrorism' by Hamas in order to demonize Palestinians.
The same way you posted an article about one single attack while ignoring the daily violence Palestinians live under through Israeli apartheid occupation.

You are not interested in peace, you offer no solutions.
Instead you attack the one state solution with equal rights, you attack BDS, you attack the rule of law and you attack armed resistance to the occupation.

I argue for the Canadian solution, equal rights and the rule of law.
For that you call me a racist while you defend apartheid.

End the occupation.
End apartheid.
Free Palestine.
Bring on equal rights.


Here are tweets from Independent Jewish Voices showing that you don't speak for the community.

 

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You constantly refer to Palestinians...
Your attempts to play the victim are dumb, especially considering your posting history. I call Hamas, PFLP, PIJ, and factions of Fatah terrorists because they are. I also call Kach terrorists because they are. Similarly, I call radical Palestinians who throw rocks and firebombs at Jewish civilians terrorists just like I call radical settlers who throw rocks and firebombs at Palestinian civilians terrorists.

It is also stupid when you claim I offer no solution. I put forward Olmert's offer as a really strong starting point. I will admit that I don't have a solution for how to handle groups like Hamas when they outright reject any peace involving Jews remaining in the region.


But of course this is all a pathetic attempt by you to avoid saying anything negative about Hamas etc.
Hamas rejects any peace involving Jews.
Palestinian polling says a strong majority of Palestinians reject both a One State and a Two State peace.
You keep pretending to support peace and human rights yet you haven't a word to say about the Palestinian leadership refusing the concepts you pretend to push and you haven't addressed the fact that more than half of Palestinians polled support "attacks on Israeli civilians inside Israel". Instead you just continue random tweets thinking they carry any weight.
 

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You're still pushing that same antisemitic trope, trying to claim that criticizing Israeli policy is an attack on the Jewish people.
Just please stop with the antisemitic tropes already.

IHRA - Holding Jews collectively responsible for actions of the state of Israel.
Yes, I keep calling out your overt racism over blaming random Jews for your obsession with Israel.

Would you think it racist if people protested outside of Muslim owned businesses in Canada to promote women's rights in Iran or Saudi Arabia?
 

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Your attempts to play the victim are dumb, especially considering your posting history. I call Hamas, PFLP, PIJ, and factions of Fatah terrorists because they are. I also call Kach terrorists because they are. Similarly, I call radical Palestinians who throw rocks and firebombs at Jewish civilians terrorists just like I call radical settlers who throw rocks and firebombs at Palestinian civilians terrorists.
So you admit there are terrorists on both sides yet still argue you are against terrorism and only one side is the problem?
You're defending a group you now admit are terrorists while attacking others for being terrorists?

It is also stupid when you claim I offer no solution. I put forward Olmert's offer as a really strong starting point. I will admit that I don't have a solution for how to handle groups like Hamas when they outright reject any peace involving Jews remaining in the region.
Yes, you did say that Olmert's plan, where he wouldn't put it in writing or draw a map with boundaries was the best you thought Palestinians would ever get.
So you're flogging a dead horse, there are now 500,000 more colonists, or 'settlers' in what could have been the two state solution since Olmert wouldn't put his offer down on paper.

But of course this is all a pathetic attempt by you to avoid saying anything negative about Hamas etc.
Hamas rejects any peace involving Jews.
Palestinian polling says a strong majority of Palestinians reject both a One State and a Two State peace.
You keep pretending to support peace and human rights yet you haven't a word to say about the Palestinian leadership refusing the concepts you pretend to push and you haven't addressed the fact that more than half of Palestinians polled support "attacks on Israeli civilians inside Israel". Instead you just continue random tweets thinking they carry any weight.
Hamas is in a ceasefire and had been until last year when Israel attacked Sheikh Jarrah. They have offered repeated ceasefires, they aren't the problem.
Israeli leaders have said they are against the two state solution and want to annex the West Bank, yet you think they are the ones who are offering peace.
Israel is still actively stealing and colonizing the land you claim should be Palestine yet you claim its Palestinians who are stopping the two state solution.

The problem is the racial supremacy inherent and the lack of equal rights.
End apartheid and give Palestinians equal rights.
Make both sides hold to international law.
Support BDS.
 

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Yes, I keep calling out your overt racism over blaming random Jews for your obsession with Israel.
Now you're making things up, where has this latest blatant lie come from?

Would you think it racist if people protested outside of Muslim owned businesses in Canada to promote women's rights in Iran or Saudi Arabia?
The proper place to protest government policy is in public avenues or around embassies.
But I have no issues with 'Free Palestine' or 'BLM' being painted in public laneways or access areas either, though they should be painted on public property, not private property.

Of course you would reject 'BLM' being painted anywhere because you would say that's accusing someone of being racist, as I'm sure you also object to BLM protests.
 

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An Anti-Jewish YouTuber tried trolling Hasidic Jews in Brooklyn. Here’s what happened.


Anti-Israel YouTuber takes to the streets of Brooklyn on the eve of the Sabbath in his latest attempt to harass Orthodox Jews.


A video of a self-described comedian approaching Hasidic Jews on the streets of Brooklyn and asking them their thoughts on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict has gone viral on Orthodox Jewish twitter.

That’s not because observant Jews are happy about the video, which has been reshared thousands of times and has had more than 250,000 views on YouTube since it was posted by Abdullah Almasmari, also known as Dulla Mulla, on Aug. 26.

Rather, it’s because many have deemed the video — in which Almasmari asks Orthodox passersby to, among other things, “justify Israel’s actions toward Palestine” — deeply offensive.

“It’s antisemitic to just go up to random US Jews and hold them accountable for Israel’s actions,” wrote Elad Nehorai, a writer who calls himself ex-Hasidic, after sharing a clip that was first put up on a Twitter profile called Hasidic. “Gross.” He shared a clip on Twitter, which led others in the Orthodox online world to take notice.


In the video, Almasmari approaches traditionally garbed men on the streets of Crown Heights and Borough Park on a Friday afternoon, as Shabbat approaches. One patron gives him a rabbinical and thoughtful response to a question about what he thinks about “the conflict,” but most outright ignore him or politely tell him to “have a good day.”

Rabbi David Bashevkin, a Jewish educator with a notable online presence, told the New York Jewish Week that Amasmari is “doing something very wrong.”

“It’s right on the foul line of almost overt antisemitism,” said Bashevkin, who is director of education for NCSY, the Orthodox youth movement. “Because I have a beard and payos I have to weigh in on Israel and Palestine for your Youtube content? I don’t think that’s fair.”

Attitudes toward Israel in the haredi Orthodox community are more diverse than some outside of the community might suspect. While Modern Orthodox Jews tend to consider themselves Zionists and have strong personal and political ties with the Jewish state, some haredi and Hasidic movements are indifferent to the country’s secular government on spiritual grounds or are even actively anti-Zionist.


This is not Almasmari’s first targeted prank videos aimed at the Jewish community.

In March 2021, Almasmari, who appears to live in Detroit, went to a kosher shop in Michigan and recorded reactions from Jewish people after showing them a Palestinian flag with the words, “Free Palestine.”

In another video, he goes into a grocery store and douses visibly Orthodox Jews with water from a spray bottle.

Almasmari has been critical of the State of Israel and has posted videos of himself at anti-Israel rallies.

Of course, some commenters on Twitter defended Almasmari. “He wasn’t holding them accountable for Israel’s actions, he was asking how they felt about the situation,” wrote “jpuxter,” who often shares anti-Israel tweets.

The YouTube video has positive comments underneath it, with one saying “best video I’ve seen this year so far, Free Palestine.”

One exchange in the recent Brooklyn video has gone particularly viral: A red-haired Hasid disarms Almasmari by saying he does not know about a conflict between Israel and Palestine.“What actually are you talking about?” the Hasidic man says to Almasmari.


“You know, them taking people’s homes,” Almasmari says.

“Are they doing that?” the Hasidic man replies.

“What about the war between Israel and Palestine?” Almasmari asks.

“There’s a war now?” the Hasidic man says.

“You don’t watch the news,” Almasmari says.

“I don’t watch the news,” the Hasidic man says. “I thought there was a war in Ukraine. That’s crazy man, these wars gotta stop.”

Online, people have hailed the Hasidic man an “expert level troll” — a provocateur — for refusing to take Almasmari’s bait. Another Twitter user posted a meme comparing him to Aryeh Moshe Lieser, the Orthodox man who went accidentally viral earlier this year thanks to his monologue about the joys of cold seltzer.

A person close to the man in the video who wished to remain anonymous confirmed to the New York Jewish Week that this incident “was not staged.”

“He was harassing people in the streets,” the source said. “It was right before sundown Friday, when people are in a rush. Some people in the community complained about this guy. People felt intimidated by him.”

The source said that the Hasidic man in the video is aware that the clip has now gone viral and found it to be “ironic.”


Bashevkin noted that this is a “scary” time to be a Hasidic Jew because they are a visible minority. In July 2022, NYPD reported a 50% increase in hate crimes over July 2021, with antisemitic hate crimes up 114%. On Monday, the NYPD said it will increase its police presence in Williamsburg following a spate of recent attacks on Jews there.

The anonymous source in the community echoed this concern, saying that the video is “targeting specific communities.”

Rabbi Mordechai Lightstone, who directs a tech and digital media project for the Chabad-Lubavitch Hasidic movement, called Almasmari “a troll” on Twitter.

“Congratulations to this troll, who appears to be the first person in history to be completely ghosted by every Lubavitcher on the streets ever,” said Lightstone, who lives in Crown Heights.

The Dulla Mulla YouTube page did not respond to a request for comment.



New York City Councilmember Kalman Yeger, who represents Borough Park, said in a statement to the New York Jewish Week that video shows “the incredible lengths antisemite will travel to harass identifiably Orthodox Jews; and how incredibly polite Orthodox Jews are in the face of antisemitism.”

“Other than that, this is just more of the same: harassing Jews for entertainment,” Yeger said.

Flatbush Shomrim, a community watch group in Brooklyn, confirmed that Almasmari came to the neighborhood and said they were “looking into it.”

“Holding Jews collectively responsible for actions of the State of Israel” is listed as an example of antisemitism under the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance working definition of antisemitism.

A pro-Palestinian YouTuber tried trolling Hasidic Jews in Brooklyn. Here’s what happened. | Israel National News - Arutz Sheva
 

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Dulla Mulla, who's real name is Abdullah Almasmari, is a Yemenite American "comedian" who frequently targets and harasses Jews in the name of pro-Palestinian activism to showcase on his social media platforms.

In 2020, Almasmari drove around various Jewish neighborhoods in Michigan and filmed himself giving the Arabic gesture for "f*ck you" to an Orthodox Man he refers to as "yahoodi" (Jew in Arabic) and then continues to yell "Free Palestine" at the innocent man. According to the IHRA definition of antisemitism, holding Jews halfway around the world responsible or in some way guilty of the Israel/Palestinian conflict is deemed antisemitic.


In 2021, Almasmari posted a video to his Instagram and TikTok accounts featuring him following around Jewish shoppers in a Kosher supermarket in Dearborn, asking them to say "Free Palestine" on video for him. After being asked to leave, he continues to film himself accosting shoppers standing outside, leading to a short exchange in Arabic with a male shopper who told him that there was "no Palestine." Almasmari started swearing at the man in Arabic - "May your mom be cursed… May your d*ck be cursed" and ended the exchange with "f*ck you."

After receiving thousands of responses to his targeted harassment of Jewish shoppers, he replied "DM filled with Jews, antisemitic my ass." A few days later Almasmari uploaded another video to his social media accounts mocking those that accused him of antisemitism and appeared to throw up a Hitler sign while swearing in Arabic.

Almasmari also likes to ridicule Jews and filmed himself dressed as an observant Jew. In a May 2021 Instagram video, he faux mocked a conversation between a Jew and Palestinian, playing both characters himself. During the video he denies the thousand plus years of Jewish connection to Israel and chants in Arabic "Palestine, Palestine, spit on you Israel!"


This past week, Almasmari caused outrage once again after harassing Orthodox Jews in Brooklyn. This time, however, he became the butt of his own "jokes" as a Haredi man trolled him back. "What about the war that's going on now between Israel and Palestine?" asked Almasmari. "There's a war now?" the Jewish man responded. "I thought the war is in Ukraine, there's another war in Israel too? Man, these wars gotta stop," irritating Almasmari. As mentioned previously, chasing down Jews to troll them on the street and holding them collectively responsible for a Middle East conflict is antisemitic.

Abdullah Almasmari uses comedy as a mask for his blatant Jew hatred. StopAntisemtiism needs YOUR help:

  • If you are on Instagram, report his account here for bullying and harassment (click on the 3 dots, then 'report' followed by 'report account')
  • If you watch YouTube, report his account here for harassment or bullying (click on the 3 dots, then the flag icon)
Dulla Mulla - The Jew Targeting Prankster — StopAntisemitism
 

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Now you're making things up, where has this latest blatant lie come from?
So all those posts where you support targeting random Jews over Israel? You know, the kind of action Canada defines as anti-semitic.

Would you think it racist if people protested outside of Muslim owned businesses in Canada to promote women's rights in Iran or Saudi Arabia?

The proper place to protest government policy is in public avenues or around embassies.
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Yet you clearly think it okay to target Jewish owned businesses.
 

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So you admit there are terrorists on both sides yet still argue you are against terrorism and only one side is the problem?
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Yes, one of use admits there is terrorism from both sides. The difference is the Israeli groups committing terrorism are fringe groups while the Palestinian groups committing terrorism are often the government of Gaza or functionaries of the PA. In a PR system, those fringe Israelis have more power than their percentage share of the votes and are a roadblock but so are the two Palestinian governments who refuse the concept of either a One State or a Two State peace.


Why are you incapable of even hinting that Hamas' official policy of rejecting any permanent peace that results in a Jewish presence? Why are you incapable of admitting that more than half of the Palestinian public supporting attacks on Israeli civilians is a problem? Why do you keep excusing the Palestinian leadership that hates the One State peace you want to force them into? Why do you keep making excuses for various indiscriminate attacks calling them self defence?



p.s. This was in the news this weekend. You will likely agree with me that since the attack was on a bus transporting soldiers was not terrorism (even though it was a civilian bus with a civilian driver as a victim). I'm sure you'll disagree with me that attacking the bus makes the assailants valid targets and will instead complain that Israel arrested or killed them.
 

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Yet you clearly think it okay to target Jewish owned businesses.
You're still pushing an antisemitic trope by claiming that painting 'Free Palestine' is an attack on the Jewish people.
Calling for the end of the occupation is not antisemitic.

The NDP has a new platform statement.

By the way, you spent months claiming that the IDF didn't target the American journalist Shireen Abu Akleh.
They now admit that an Israeli sniper killed her.
As usual, you pushed IDF nonsense as if it were trustworthy.


So all those posts where you support targeting random Jews over Israel? You know, the kind of action Canada defines as anti-semitic.
You know, pushing antisemitic tropes and slandering people isn't the kind of actions that Canada or the mods like.
Just stop lying, there are no such posts.
 

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You're still pushing an antisemitic trope by claiming that painting 'Free Palestine' is an attack on the Jewish people.
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Why are you afraid to answer?

Would you think it racist if people protested outside of Muslim owned businesses in Canada to promote women's rights in Iran or Saudi Arabia?


p.s. Fucking pathetic that your only defense is to say it's anti-semitic to criticize anti-semitic protests targeting Jewish owned businesses.
 

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Yes, one of use admits there is terrorism from both sides. The difference is the Israeli groups committing terrorism are fringe groups while the Palestinian groups committing terrorism are often the government of Gaza or functionaries of the PA. In a PR system, those fringe Israelis have more power than their percentage share of the votes and are a roadblock but so are the two Palestinian governments who refuse the concept of either a One State or a Two State peace.
The Israeli groups that commit terrorism are not fringe, they are the government, a large number of settlers and the IDF.
The Flag March is hardly a fringe event, its backed by the government, army and police. The attacks on Gaza that target civilians are commanded by the government. The settler terrorist attacks on civilian Palestinians are backed by the IDF and government.
Its not fringe.

Every week there is a report like this.


p.s. This was in the news this weekend. You will likely agree with me that since the attack was on a bus transporting soldiers was not terrorism (even though it was a civilian bus with a civilian driver as a victim). I'm sure you'll disagree with me that attacking the bus makes the assailants valid targets and will instead complain that Israel arrested or killed them.
Its some slight progress that you recognize that this isn't terrorism but its also wrong that you call for the assailants to be assassinated instead of being arrested and charged.
But again, every week there is a report like this.

Again, you ignore the cause, the occupation and apartheid rule of what should have been Palestine and try to blame the victims.
Just end the occupation.
 

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Why are you afraid to answer?

Would you think it racist if people protested outside of Muslim owned businesses in Canada to promote women's rights in Iran or Saudi Arabia?


p.s. Fucking pathetic that your only defense is to say it's anti-semitic to criticize anti-semitic protests targeting Jewish owned businesses.
Would you stop with the irrelevant hypothetical questions?

I think apartheid is racist.
I think people who justify apartheid are justifying racism.
The proper way to protest government policies are through public protests and protests against embassies.

You protest until the political parties change, then you back those parties to implement change.

 

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Would you stop with the irrelevant hypothetical questions?
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Which means you know you can't answer without exposing yourself as completely hypocritical.

It is racist to target random Muslims in protest over the actions of other Muslims. This was a common event after 9/11 and is not hypothetical. It is similarly racist to target random Jews in protest over what other Jews do.

Sadly your crusade to demonize Israel has you happily doing things that you yourself would consider racist in other contexts.



(just as stupid that you accuse me of being racist for posting a question about one event while endlessly spamming the board with random hate tweets about Israel)
 

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The Israeli groups that commit terrorism are not fringe, they are the government, a large number of settlers and the IDF.
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Not according to Canada. One fringe Israeli group and numerous mainstream Palestinians factions on that list. Of course you go on endlessly about an Israeli party with one seat because they have similar politics to Kahane and a march with 50,000 people out of a population of 7 million Jews (that would be like calling the convoy idiots mainstream) while completely ignoring that one of the major Palestinian factions (and several smaller ones) is overtly promoting ethnic cleansing and over 50% of the population have been polled to support attacks on civilians and thing violence is the solution.

You have also admitted that there are no Palestinian leaders who endorse either a One State nor a Two State peace and excuse that by demanding Israel somehow unilaterally force the Palestinians to accept peace (while also condemning Israel for anything you claim is unilateral actions).

Your political views are an absolute joke with their constant inconsistencies and racist double standards and all you can do is try to change the topic hoping that you won't get exposed on that one as well.
 

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Its some slight progress that you recognize that this isn't terrorism but its also wrong that you call for the assailants to be assassinated instead of being arrested and charged.
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Of course if you looked at reality, you would see that Israel attempted arrests and it turned into a gun battle. And as I expected, you try to claim that Palestinian gunmen who shot at the arrest teams are innocent victims and instead make up the asinine claim they were assassinated.
 

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Not according to Canada. One fringe Israeli group and numerous mainstream Palestinians factions on that list. Of course you go on endlessly about an Israeli party with one seat because they have similar politics to Kahane and a march with 50,000 people out of a population of 7 million Jews (that would be like calling the convoy idiots mainstream) while completely ignoring that one of the major Palestinian factions (and several smaller ones) is overtly promoting ethnic cleansing and over 50% of the population have been polled to support attacks on civilians and thing violence is the solution.

You have also admitted that there are no Palestinian leaders who endorse either a One State nor a Two State peace and excuse that by demanding Israel somehow unilaterally force the Palestinians to accept peace (while also condemning Israel for anything you claim is unilateral actions).

Your political views are an absolute joke with their constant inconsistencies and racist double standards and all you can do is try to change the topic hoping that you won't get exposed on that one as well.
You've been defending the ongoing colonization of Palestine through 'settlers' here for years while claiming you back the two state solution.
You watched the two state solution be destroyed and apartheid Israel built in its place.

Now Amnesty, HRW, B'tselem et al have pushed the process that BDS leads, to boycott and sanction Israel until apartheid is ended.

Congrats.

The NDP have made a statement. Judging by what my MP said earlier this summer, the liberals won't be that far behind.
When that happens the Canadian government will be calling out Israel for apartheid.
The libs know they can't continue to claim to be anti-racist and pro-human rights while defending apartheid.

What are you going to do then?
 

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The facts:
I support all people having the right to self determination.
You don't.

Israel's basic law states that the state only gives Jews the right to self determination in Israel.
By your own terms that makes Israel a racist endeavour that refuses to give Palestinian or 'Israeli Arabs' living under their rule the right to self determination.
That means you just admitted, again, that Israel is apartheid.

The Knesset (Israel’s parliament) passed the Basic Law on July 19, 2018. The Basic Law recognizes that “the right to national self-determination in the State of Israel is unique to the Jewish People.” (Basic Law § 1(c).

Israel’s occupation of Palestinian Territory is ‘apartheid’: UN rights expert

Hate fuels more hate, problem are the piliticians and their private interests, this hate is than fueled so those same interests can be achieved.

In case of Israel it is the US sponsored ruling elite, in case of Palestine it is the Iranian, and Arab sponsored currents.

Now there is zero reason why the Palestine the small as it is could not exist as a independant teritory within Israel, as long as Israel agrees to honor their differences and freedoms.

But neither side will agree to this because of the outside interferance.

This all said, Israel is 100% one of the most racist countries, but so are all the other countries in its sorounding, Iran, Egypt, theey are no different
 
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