i was back in canada for 15 mins and....

simon482

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We should go back to the days when the regulations were lighter and truck tires were flying off and killing innocent drivers on a regular basis.
please explain to me how me not marking down where and when i got fuel is unsafe ?
 

simon482

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I think he should first define his idea of "regular basis". :wink:
if i was in violation for hours of service i wouldn't have been able to leave. mechanical regulations should be enforced and i am for that. if a guy forgets to write down the name of town he finished off in it's a 400$ ticket. forget the date, that's a fine. there are a ridiculous amount of fines for very stupid things that have nothing to do with safety. i can get a fine for pulling over for a piss and not marking it down. how is any of that gonna result in a tire flying off ? lets not forget the tire flying off thing was not nearly as often as everyone says. it did happen, but it wasn't that frequent.
 

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don't beat yourself up over it, the inspectors at scales are a special kind of stupid. barely a step above security guards but they act like they're the president lol

btw trucking has so many regulations there isn't a single person in north america that knows em all.

several dot officers in usa were bragging that they can put a brand new tractor trailer from a showroom floor out of service if following the regulations 100%.


btw if this was the scale on 401 just outside of windsor go around next time, and every other time you go by there hahaha

these guys just recently built a multi million dollar facility and are open 24/7 and under pressure to issue as many fines as possible to pay for their "project"
 

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We should go back to the days when the regulations were lighter and truck tires were flying off and killing innocent drivers on a regular basis.
This is exactly what I was going to say. No regulation will bring us back to those days.

I think the log books are just one of those thing that you don't have to understand but just have to do. Trucks do more road damage than cars and roads are tax paid. Your fuel log book records you are buying fuel and paying for your contributions to the damaging if the roads. I am sure there are other reasons too -- perhaps just to piss you off?
 

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if i was in violation for hours of service i wouldn't have been able to leave. mechanical regulations should be enforced and i am for that. if a guy forgets to write down the name of town he finished off in it's a 400$ ticket. forget the date, that's a fine. there are a ridiculous amount of fines for very stupid things that have nothing to do with safety. i can get a fine for pulling over for a piss and not marking it down. how is any of that gonna result in a tire flying off ? lets not forget the tire flying off thing was not nearly as often as everyone says. it did happen, but it wasn't that frequent.
These stop logs are driver rest breaks and are definately safety related! You know if you're wheels aren't turning you are making no money. Rest breaks cost you or your company. These don't prevent the tires coming off but keeps the truck from flying off the road.
 

simon482

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don't beat yourself up over it, the inspectors at scales are a special kind of stupid. barely a step above security guards but they act like they're the president lol

btw trucking has so many regulations there isn't a single person in north america that knows em all.

several dot officers in usa were bragging that they can put a brand new tractor trailer from a showroom floor out of service if following the regulations 100%.


btw if this was the scale on 401 just outside of windsor go around next time, and every other time you go by there hahaha

these guys just recently built a multi million dollar facility and are open 24/7 and under pressure to issue as many fines as possible to pay for their "project"
they are rebuilding both putnam scales. bigger and badder than windsor. supposed to be on the asshole level as banning in socal.
 

simon482

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These stop logs are driver rest breaks and are definately safety related! You know if you're wheels aren't turning you are making no money. Rest breaks cost you or your company. These don't prevent the tires coming off but keeps the truck from flying off the road.
my company doesn't push it's driver and has/will suspended drivers for running outside of the legal hours of service. the infraction i got does not make me or my truck dangerous. the inspector said i had the most solid mechanically truck he had seen in a while. i don't fuck around when it comes to be safe, i am not going to die or put anyone else at risk to deliver some shit.
 

simon482

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This is exactly what I was going to say. No regulation will bring us back to those days.

I think the log books are just one of those thing that you don't have to understand but just have to do. Trucks do more road damage than cars and roads are tax paid. Your fuel log book records you are buying fuel and paying for your contributions to the damaging if the roads. I am sure there are other reasons too -- perhaps just to piss you off?
ifta, fuel taxes are paid. in fact i pay more fuel tax in a week than you do in a year.
 

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boss gave me shit for it this morning. told me i am paying both fines, his and mine.
 

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boss gave me shit for it this morning. told me i am paying both fines, his and mine.
I can understand that lol.

Look, I've used paralegals and sometimes they can have the charges reduced or dismissed. I can PM you a name but you probably know one yourself.
 

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I can understand that lol.

Look, I've used paralegals and sometimes they can have the charges reduced or dismissed. I can PM you a name but you probably know one yourself.
by the time i drive down to windsor to fight it and drive back, the time and gas i spend wouldn't be worth it. thanks though.
 

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by the time i drive down to windsor to fight it and drive back, the time and gas i spend wouldn't be worth it. thanks though.
You need to find a paralegal from Windsor to keep the cost down (Toronto ones will charge you for the travel) and who will fight on your behalf. It might be worth spending $250.
 

simon482

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You need to find a paralegal from Windsor to keep the cost down (Toronto ones will charge you for the travel) and who will fight on your behalf. It might be worth spending $250.
to much hassle. if i get caught doing something i shouldn't be doing i pay what i got to pay, i fucked up and these are my consequences. the trick is to not get caught. be damned if i am going to go out of my way to help the boss out anymore though. no more 750 mile days and doing resets while working or any of that shit. now he gets the basic package.
 

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to much hassle. if i get caught doing something i shouldn't be doing i pay what i got to pay, i fucked up and these are my consequences. the trick is to not get caught. be damned if i am going to go out of my way to help the boss out anymore though. no more 750 mile days and doing resets while working or any of that shit. now he gets the basic package.
That's the way to do it . By the way I'm not a trucker so why do you have to mark down the fuel stop and where you bought ?
 

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to much hassle. if i get caught doing something i shouldn't be doing i pay what i got to pay, i fucked up and these are my consequences. the trick is to not get caught. be damned if i am going to go out of my way to help the boss out anymore though. no more 750 mile days and doing resets while working or any of that shit. now he gets the basic package.
The trick is to follow the laws and regulations of the land. Then they're be no ticket.
 

GPIDEAL

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to much hassle. if i get caught doing something i shouldn't be doing i pay what i got to pay, i fucked up and these are my consequences. the trick is to not get caught. be damned if i am going to go out of my way to help the boss out anymore though. no more 750 mile days and doing resets while working or any of that shit. now he gets the basic package.
You have a choice to give your BOSS the 'basic package'? Would you earn less for that?
 

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The trick is to follow the laws and regulations of the land. Then they're be no ticket.
2000+ regulations in trucking. If you meet one person that knows all of them lemme know, i'll give you a $1000 cash on the spot.
 
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