What he's trying to say is that the beats all sound the same and it's hard to tell one song from the other. Only the words(or gangsta lingo) are what makes it somewhat different.Back Burner said:
I hate what RAP/HIP HOP has turned into (for the most part)
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If you cant tell one song from the other either your ears are malfunctioning or you just don't care to pay attention.... either way you slice it, to make a statement like that makes you "clueless".The Bandit said:
The same could be said for Rock, Jazz, Classical, Country; if you dont care about about it enough to pay attention to it, its all going to "sound the same"..and if you know you arent paying attention to it or interested in it you should know better than to make a silly statement
The title, bandit... if you can read is "I hate what RAP/HIP HOP has TURNED INTO"The Bandit said:
Nowhere in that title do I say that its "crap".
Most House Music has no "musicianship" and many have no singing....are you saying House isnt music either? Because if you are there would be millions and millions of people who have forgotten more about music than you know who would beg to differ.The Bandit said:
I have a friend in the CD/DVD business and he says that other the the top 4-5 rappers, the rest of the stuff no one wants it 6 months from now. Yet music from the 60's, 70's, 80's always sells.
Don't tell me I'm clueless, I have over 3,000 CD's, 1,000 DVD's, and I've probably listened to more music than you ever will.
Don't tell me I'm clueless, I have over 3,000 CD's, 1,000 DVD's, and I've probably listened to more music than you ever will.
Yet people are still listening to it...go figure...What happened there Bandit?The Bandit said:
Thats because old farts like buying it to hang on to whatever memory of youth they have left. Same thing will happen 20-30 years from now with the music out now.The Bandit said:
You may own a lot of CDs but you clearly dont know too much about anything other than what you may listen to; and then you go and comment about something you know nothing about = clueless.The Bandit said:
Hey, I dont like Country, Contemporary or Alternative WHATSOEVER. And I personally dont see what the big hoohaw is with Elvis. But just because I dont like it doesnt means I cant appreciate the skill and talent involved and it certainly doesnt mean that I run around discrediting an entire genre of art simply because its not my bag...I have no right to do that and nor do you
I'll say it again, you can never argue taste.
Simple as that.
It doesn't matter how much music you've listened to or how much CD's you own or how good an instrument you can play, what you like or dislike only reflects on your personal preference but no more or less.
Simple as that.
It doesn't matter how much music you've listened to or how much CD's you own or how good an instrument you can play, what you like or dislike only reflects on your personal preference but no more or less.
I agree with you Berlin, but I stand by my clueless statement. West Coast sounds different the East Coast. Southern rap sounds different then the Midwest. US rap, sounds different that Canadian Rap. Fuck, North American Rap sounds different from European Rap. But her if you hear one song they all sound the same, right?Berlin said:
I personally don't like rap but everyone is entitled to their own tastes. If everyone liked the same things then it would be a very boring world?S.C. Joe said:
However, talking fast is NOT an art, it's a skill that many people have a talent for including my 10 year old niece. Singing opera is also a talent not an art, a talent that is much less common than rapping.
The art is in the writing of the rap song or the opera. The performance can be talented but the true art is in the creation of the work.
I'd rather not feed a troll.iamme said:
Hip hop is very diverse in sound and lyrical content. What you see on tv is obviously what is being mass marketed. If you fail to see the difference between a 50 cent record, and a Common record, you obviously have no clue and I'll leave it at that.
A somewhat controversial viewpoint, and I generally try not to be controversial but all you need to know to about C-rap is what the target audience is.
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FLOYD ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!!
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hip hop more like spoken spoken word in EBonics... Mark Knoplar of Dire Straits did some what spoken word poetry in an Anglo fashion with country flare.iamme said:Good one !
I think you need to actually read the responses that were given to you, and to truly open your mind, instead of just saying it's open. Please read the quote below:iamme said:Once again another person who says 'you have no clue' but doesn't explain what one should look for or seek out to try and understand rap or hip-hop or what ever you want to call it.
How about taking the time and explaining to me and the good folks here on TERB what to look for to appreciate and try to gain knowledge of your type of music? Or are you just here to say that anyone who expresses an negative opinion of rap and hip-hop are trolls and 'have no clue' ??
Based on what I've read here, I've started to form my own opinion of people who appreciate rap and hip hop, and believe me it isn't a good one! Which is too bad because I would like to think that there are some decent rappers and hip-hoppers on this forum.
Have a nice day
Now art can be interpreted as a work that evokes certain passions or emotions in its spectator. If you agree with this definition, then you can start seeing how rap can be an artform just as much as any other music genre. I hate Jackson Pollock, think he drinks various paints then vomits them on a canvas, yet his work sells for millions. Same can be said about rap or any genre.
I like Eminem's stuff, for example. I even own his second CD. I listen to his words, how they rythmicly fall into the music, his allegories, his similes, his hyperboles, you can start to appreciate what people see in his music: It invokes feelings in them.
Jazz for me is, for the most part, a chaotic jumble of chords, brass, and drums, yet when I listen to it closely, I can hear the improvisational interplay that is happening between the jazz band members. That's when I start to appreciate it. Thelonius Monk rocks!
Talking Fast in rap is not an art. A majority of wrappers, 97% of them are nothing but uneducated, abusers and terrorists. They think they can make a quick buck, get quick fame, doing nothing but talk in a mic, like it was a giant cock. They intimidate and harm. And the ONLY reason this is happening is the small amount of existing corporate executives in a dying music industry abuse the system allowing thugs and gang leaders to be in control as NO ONE is buying "pop music" anymore.
In fact pop music and rock music, today, sounds just like the 80's, 90's and 00's. The 50's don't sound like the 60's. The 60's don't sound like the 70's. 70's don't sound like the 80's. But the 80's, 90's and 00's all sound the same. Like a bear market.
Terrorists! All rappers are F'n terrorists, should all be arrested and thrown into Gitmo jail.
Rap is crap!
Gyaos Baltar.
In fact pop music and rock music, today, sounds just like the 80's, 90's and 00's. The 50's don't sound like the 60's. The 60's don't sound like the 70's. 70's don't sound like the 80's. But the 80's, 90's and 00's all sound the same. Like a bear market.
Terrorists! All rappers are F'n terrorists, should all be arrested and thrown into Gitmo jail.
Rap is crap!
Gyaos Baltar.
You're absolutely right. And all black people, since they're all rappers, should also go to jailGyaos said:
...for terrorism.
What is your definition of a terrorist anyway? you're rather free with the word, bu I seriously doubt you know what it means.
here:
terrorist
noun
a radical who employs terror as a political weapon; usually organizes with other terrorists in small cells; often uses religion as a cover for terrorist activities
a person who tries to frighten people or governments into doing what he/she wants by using or threatening violence
Hope that helps.
