"I Am a Palestinian in Gaza and Hamas must Cede Control"

[Frankfooter]

There is no evidence of any intent to destroy in whole or part of any identifiable group unless you mean Hamas, in which case by trying to destroy the confederate army, the Union army was guilty of genocide. By trying to destroy the German army and the Nazi party the allies were guilty of genocide.
That is not what any normal person means by genocide.

Exterminating the Jews from RIver to Sea does fit that description.

South Africa dropped of what, 4,500 pages of evidence at the ICJ.
That argument is pathetic.

Israel is committing genocide on Palestinians, only Israel has been charged at the ICC and ICJ of genocide and extermination.

A partial list.

13 October 2023, Raz Segal, https://jewishcurrents.org/a-textbook-case-of-genocide
15 October 2023: Public Statement: Over 800 Scholars Warn of Potential Genocide in Gaza https://twailr.com/public-statement-scholars-warn-of-potential-genocide-in-gaza/
2 November: UN experts call to prevent genocide: https://un.org/unispal/document/gaza-is-running-out-of-time-un-experts-warn-demanding-a-ceasefire-to-prevent-genocide/
16 November: UN experts call to prevent genocide: https://ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2023/11/gaza-un-experts-call-international-community-prevent-genocide-against
16 November, William Schabas: https://ccrjustice.org/sites/default/files/attach/2023/11/Declaration%20Expert%20William%20Schabas_w.pdf
16 November: Holocaust and genocide scholars John Cox, Victoria Sanford, and Barry Trachtenberg declaration, https://ccrjustice.org/sites/default/files/attach/2023/11/Historians%20Declaration_w.pdf
29 December, South Africa submission to ICJ: https://icj-cij.org/sites/default/files/case-related/192/192-20231228-app-01-00-en.pdf
29 May, South Africa's dossier of evidence of Israel's genocidal intent, the UN Security Council: **************************************/nb6ua4a5 Martin Shaw, https://x.com/martinshawx/status/1820389008880361676
UN Expert Francesca Albanese, first report on the Genocide (March 2024): https://ohchr.org/sites/default/files/documents/hrbodies/hrcouncil/sessions-regular/session55/advance-versions/a-hrc-55-73-auv.pdf
UN Expert Francesca Albanese, second report on the Genocide (October 2024): https://documents.un.org/doc/undoc/gen/n24/279/68/pdf/n2427968.pdf… John Quigley, “Legal Standard for Genocide Intent: An Uphill Climb for Israel in Gaza Suit”, 14 March, EJIL: https://ejiltalk.org/legal-standard-for-genocide-intent-an-uphill-climb-for-israel-in-gaza-suit/
UK Judges’ and Lawyers’ Open Letter Concerning Gaza, 3 April 2024: https://lawyersletter.uk
Jinan Bastaki, Gaza, Forced Displacement, and Genocide”, EJIL, April 2024, https://ejiltalk.org/gaza-forced-displacement-and-genocide/
Nimer Sultany, “A Threshold Crossed: On Genocidal Intent and the Duty to Prevent Genocide in Palestine”, May 2024: https://tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/14623528.2024.2351261 University Network for Human Rights report, May 2024: https://humanrightsnetwork.org/publications/genocide-in-gaza
Aryeh Neier, NYRB, 6 June 2024: https://nybooks.com/articles/2024/06/06/is-israel-committing-genocide-aryeh-neier/?srsltid=AfmBOopOf1xbf1Ucx3Bvo11nN7VEEL-J7IA6jCNd9mhgWGeSUcLgQ9Y7
UN Commission of Inquiry, 10 June: Detailed findings on the military operations and attacks carried out in the Occupied Palestinian Territory from 7 October to 31 December 2023: https://ohchr.org/sites/default/files/documents/hrbodies/hrcouncil/sessions-regular/session56/a-hrc-56-crp-4.pdf
Oxfam, Water War Crimes report, July 2024: https://oxfam.org/en/press-releases/israel-using-water-weapon-war-gaza-supply-plummets-94-creating-deadly-health Omer Bartov, 13 August: https://theguardian.com/world/article/2024/aug/13/israel-gaza-historian-omer-bartov
Haaretz, “The Numbers Show: Gaza War Is One of the Bloodiest in the 21st Century”,
14 August: https://haaretz.com/middle-east-news/palestinians/2024-08-14/ty-article-magazine/.premium/the-death-toll-in-gaza-is-bad-even-compared-to-the-wars-in-ukraine-iraq-and-myanmar/00000191-50c6-d6a2-a7dd-d1decf340000
Maryam Jamshidi, On Genocidal Intent, August: https://opiniojuris.org/2024/08/02/reflecting-on-genocidal-intent-in-the-icj-case/
Forensic Architecture: cartographic analysis of the genocide in support of South Africa’s case in the ICJ: https://forensic-architecture.org/investigation/a-cartography-of-genocide… AOAV analysis that shows that vast majority of killed in Gaza are civilians: https://aoav.org.uk/2024/casualties-in-gaza-israels-claims-of-50-combatant-deaths-dont-add-up-at-least-74-of-the-dead-are-civilians/ 10 October 2024: UN Commission of Inquiry: Israel’s destruction of the health system in Gaza https://ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/10/un-commission-finds-war-crimes-and-crimes-against-humanity-israeli-attacks 8 November 2024: UN Commission of Inquiry: 70 percent of verified victims (October - 30 April) were children and women: https://ohchr.org/en/documents/reports/six-month-update-report-human-rights-situation-gaza-1-november-2023-30-april-2024 12 November 2024: 8 aid organisations of the systematic violation ICJ orders on humanitarian assistance, thereby establishing genocidal intent: https://oxfam.org/en/press-releases/joint-release-israel-receives-failing-grade-us-demands-gaza 14 November 2024: UN Special Committee Report https://ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/11/un-special-committee-finds-israels-warfare-methods-gaza-consistent-genocide North Gaza: 9 October 2024: 18 Aid organisations warn of dramatic escalation of humanitarian catastrophe in northern Gaza: https://oxfam.org.uk/media/press-releases/aid-organisations-warn-of-dramatic-escalation-of-humanitarian-catastrophe-following-further-mass-forced-displacement-of-civilians-in-northern-gaza/ 15 October: 38 organisations: “Northern Gaza is being wiped off the map”: https://oxfam.org/en/press-releases/urgent-joint-statement-northern-gaza-being-erased-global-leaders-must-act-now-end 1 November: statement by 15 UN and humanitarian organisations: http://bit.ly/40pLGqx

 

[NotADcotor]

South Africa dropped of what, 4,500 pages of evidence at the ICJ.
That argument is pathetic.

Israel is committing genocide on Palestinians, only Israel has been charged at the ICC and ICJ of genocide and extermination.

Except as usual you didn't actually address what I said. Which is standard for you.

I've already established that it isn't. Even had a link but it seems defending Israel from hate mongers is against the rules on Terb so why even bother trying.

There is 0 evidence that Israel is trying to exterminate Palestinians and in fact doing everything reasonable to avoid civilian deaths in a harsh environment of fighting in a built up area against an enemy [Hamas] who is doing everything they can to counter their efforts.

Apparently pointing this out gets your sig deleted on terb.

But please tell some more lies about me and those Jews you hate so much. You are protected obviously, the rules don't apply to you.

Also I seem to recall that at least one of those groups which you have posted about based on the information you provided only put out a non binding opinion piece.

As for South Africa. I'll let them get back to me when they stop literally raping little kids to cure their AIDS and get a functioning electrical system.

Virgin cleansing myth - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

South African energy crisis - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

When you have to resort to South Africa... and to the UN who put Iran in a group for Woman's rights, you really have no leg to stand on.

 

[Leimonis]

Brocken clock is right twice a day

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[shack]

No, Shazi.

CBC is reporting that it was zionists who instigated the violence in the Netherlands now.
The truth is coming out.

The violence in Holland is completely off topic in this thread.

You cannot refute anything in that letter by the Palestinian in Gaza. He's lived it and he knows that all of their suffering is because of Hamas. Are you saying that he is lying?

You had no retort because you know that he is right. You agree with him.

 

[shack]

You put the board at risk, Shazi.
You've been here promoting genocide for a year.

You are the very definition of a disseminator of hate speech. You spew lie after lie in an attempt to demonize Israel. From the Gov't of Canada:

Categories of Harmful Content
The Online Harms Act would specifically target seven categories of harmful content:

• Content that sexually victimizes a child or revictimizes a survivor;
• Intimate content communicated without consent;
• Content that foments hatred;
• Content that incites violent extremism or terrorism;
• Content that incites violence;
• Content used to bully a child; and
• Content that induces a child to harm themselves.

I've repeatedly said that all you do is foment hatred, here. You don't belong here.
You are the one endangering TERB.

 

[Klatuu]

Maybe if everyone started reporting Frankfooter every time he breaks the rules, the mods will get sick of it and get rid of him... or the rest of us. Either way problem solved.
Seems he has some sort of protection, or perhaps the rules on hate speech, insults etc don't apply when the hate is directed towards Jews and the insults are in the name of killing them off.

 

[Klatuu]

It will take time but eventually hamas will be rejected by the Palestinians...all they have brought is suffering.

Cult fiction

 

[Klatuu]

There is no evidence of any intent to destroy in whole or part of any identifiable group unless you mean Hamas, in which case by trying to destroy the confederate army, the Union army was guilty of genocide. By trying to destroy the German army and the Nazi party the allies were guilty of genocide.
That is not what any normal person means by genocide.

Exterminating the Jews from RIver to Sea does fit that description.

Self deception is a core component of Ziontology

 

[Klatuu]

You are the very definition of a disseminator of hate speech. You spew lie after lie in an attempt to demonize Israel. From the Gov't of Canada:

Categories of Harmful Content
The Online Harms Act would specifically target seven categories of harmful content:

• Content that sexually victimizes a child or revictimizes a survivor;
• Intimate content communicated without consent;
• Content that foments hatred;
• Content that incites violent extremism or terrorism;
• Content that incites violence;
• Content used to bully a child; and
• Content that induces a child to harm themselves.

I've repeatedly said that all you do is foment hatred, here. You don't belong here.
You are the one endangering TERB.

Every accusation by a Ziontologist is a confession

 

[Frankfooter]

Except as usual you didn't actually address what I said. Which is standard for you.

All you said is that you personally deny all reports, news reports, direct evidence or ongoing trials showing Israel is committing genocide based on your feelings.

I've already established that it isn't. Even had a link but it seems defending Israel from hate mongers is against the rules on Terb so why even bother trying.

You have established nothing, you post your feelings as if they matter.

There is 0 evidence that Israel is trying to exterminate Palestinians and in fact doing everything reasonable to avoid civilian deaths in a harsh environment of fighting in a built up area against an enemy [Hamas] who is doing everything they can to counter their efforts.

Those are your feelings.
I've posted the reports, the charges, the news reports, direct videos and testimony.
You just deny them based on your feelings.

Apparently pointing this out gets your sig deleted on terb.

Promoting genocide isn't popular.
Get used to it.

But please tell some more lies about me and those Jews you hate so much. You are protected obviously, the rules don't apply to you.

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That's an antisemitic post.
Stop arguing that all Jews are genocidal zionists, that's the same as arguing that all Palestinians are genocidal, which of course you also argue.
Not all Jews are zionists and not all zionists are Jews. In North America most zionists are born again christian types hoping for the end of the world.

As for South Africa. I'll let them get back to me when they stop literally raping little kids to cure their AIDS and get a functioning electrical system.

Virgin cleansing myth - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

South African energy crisis - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

When you have to resort to South Africa... and to the UN who put Iran in a group for Woman's rights, you really have no leg to stand on.

Great, now you're expanding your racism to include South Africa. That really is a strong argument that all you post is racism.

 

[Frankfooter]

The violence in Holland is completely off topic in this thread.

You cannot refute anything in that letter by the Palestinian in Gaza. He's lived it and he knows that all of their suffering is because of Hamas. Are you saying that he is lying?

You had no retort because you know that he is right. You agree with him.

You cannot refute anything that the holocaust survivor I posted said either.
You have no reply to that argument because it shows how idiotic your claims are, arguing that if you find one person with a dissident view it justifies anything.

If you think single people's views are all it takes, here's another.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1857560952243093665

 

[Frankfooter]

You are the very definition of a disseminator of hate speech. You spew lie after lie in an attempt to demonize Israel. From the Gov't of Canada:

Categories of Harmful Content
The Online Harms Act would specifically target seven categories of harmful content:

• Content that sexually victimizes a child or revictimizes a survivor;
• Intimate content communicated without consent;
• Content that foments hatred;
• Content that incites violent extremism or terrorism;
• Content that incites violence;
• Content used to bully a child; and
• Content that induces a child to harm themselves.

I've repeatedly said that all you do is foment hatred, here. You don't belong here.
You are the one endangering TERB.

Promoting genocide is as harmful as humans can get, Shazi.
Call in the mods and ask them who should be banned if you want.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

you're here defending genocide.

He literally said he does not support genocide.
Your response is to turn around and accuse him of defending genocide.
Whats wrong with you?

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

You are vile for promoting what is clearly genocide.

There is no evidence of any intent to destroy in whole or part of any identifiable group

This is still TBD by the ICJ.
We dont yet know if it is genocide.
In all likelihood though my personal opinion is that Israel will be found not guilty of genocide.
But guilty of some war crimes.
Genocide is hard to prove because you need to prove intent.
A couple of Israeli politicians making inflammatory comments is not sufficient to prove intent. IMHO.

 

[mandrill]

This is still TBD by the ICJ.
We dont yet know if it is genocide.
In all likelihood though my personal opinion is that Israel will be found not guilty of genocide.
But guilty of some war crimes.
Genocide is hard to prove because you need to prove intent.
A couple of Israeli politicians making inflammatory comments is not sufficient to prove intent. IMHO.

A couple of the cabinet members are clearly genocidal assholes.

But you would have to prove that their assinine comments were put into effect by the IDF - and there's no proof of anything approaching that.

 

[Frankfooter]

He literally said he does not support genocide.
Your response is to turn around and accuse him of defending genocide.
Whats wrong with you?

I'm sure you'd also argue that any nazi that claimed the holocaust never happened is also against genocide.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

I'm sure you'd also argue that any nazi that claimed the holocaust never happened is also against genocide.

The holocaust had evidence to be called genocide.
Intent was clearly proven.
Not in Gaza. Not yet.

 

[Frankfooter]

This is still TBD by the ICJ.
We dont yet know if it is genocide.
In all likelihood though my personal opinion is that Israel will be found not guilty of genocide.
But guilty of some war crimes.
Genocide is hard to prove because you need to prove intent.
A couple of Israeli politicians making inflammatory comments is not sufficient to prove intent. IMHO.

Your personal opinion is just your own opinion.
The reports are clear, the evidence is massive and continuing and even South Africa had to limit the amount of evidence they provided from the mountains available.

As the UN Rapporteur and countless others have stated, this is the most documented genocide in human history, from political statements to government policy to human rights reports, video, photos and witness testimony.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1851079831070687263

 

[Frankfooter]

The holocaust had evidence to be called genocide.
Intent was clearly proven.
Not in Gaza. Not yet.

There is so much evidence of intent available that this makes me question your own views.

 

[Frankfooter]

A couple of the cabinet members are clearly genocidal assholes.

But you would have to prove that their assinine comments were put into effect by the IDF - and there's no proof of anything approaching that.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1856704868511367312