"I Am a Palestinian in Gaza and Hamas must Cede Control"

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Gazans are turning on Hamas but they cheered them they bought hostages back and they voted them in. Now they love the Israelis

God Take Revenge on You, Sinwar': Gazans Voice Rage and Despair, Blaming Hamas for Their Suffering


A powerful new documentary by News 12 sheds unprecedented light on the voices of Gaza’s residents, revealing a profound, unfiltered condemnation of Hamas from within the refugee camp of Jabalia. As they endure unimaginable suffering, these residents expose Hamas as the root of their turmoil, calling for a future free from its oppressive rule. This film offers a raw perspective rarely seen, giving the world an honest look at the hardship and hope of people longing for liberation from a life trapped in conflict.

Since the events of October 7, the world has been focused on Gaza, yet few have been able to see beyond the filtered reports controlled by factions within the area. Western and Israeli media alike have often struggled to portray the true sentiments of Gaza’s people, but this documentary, filmed by journalists embedded on the ground, aims to change that.

The documentary presents firsthand accounts of suffering, frustration, and anger from ordinary Gazans who feel abandoned and betrayed by Hamas. For the first time, viewers can hear direct testimonies of people living in Jabalia, a camp historically associated with Hamas. Those interviewed openly condemn Hamas, blaming the group for the violence, hunger, and isolation that have become a part of their daily lives.

One resident shared, “Hamas has destroyed our lives, our homes, and the future of our children. We want nothing to do with them; we want peace and stability.” Another, with a mix of hope and desperation, expressed a surprising sentiment, wishing for Israeli governance to replace what they see as Hamas’s oppressive rule.

The film’s footage also captures the humanitarian efforts of Israeli soldiers providing water, food, and medical aid to displaced residents, underscoring the vast divide between Hamas’s treatment of its own people and Israel’s humanitarian response amid a volatile situation.

 
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Gazans are turning on Hamas but they cheered them they bought hostages back and they voted them in. Now they love the Israelis

God Take Revenge on You, Sinwar': Gazans Voice Rage and Despair, Blaming Hamas for Their Suffering


A powerful new documentary by News 12 sheds unprecedented light on the voices of Gaza’s residents, revealing a profound, unfiltered condemnation of Hamas from within the refugee camp of Jabalia. As they endure unimaginable suffering, these residents expose Hamas as the root of their turmoil, calling for a future free from its oppressive rule. This film offers a raw perspective rarely seen, giving the world an honest look at the hardship and hope of people longing for liberation from a life trapped in conflict.

Since the events of October 7, the world has been focused on Gaza, yet few have been able to see beyond the filtered reports controlled by factions within the area. Western and Israeli media alike have often struggled to portray the true sentiments of Gaza’s people, but this documentary, filmed by journalists embedded on the ground, aims to change that.

The documentary presents firsthand accounts of suffering, frustration, and anger from ordinary Gazans who feel abandoned and betrayed by Hamas. For the first time, viewers can hear direct testimonies of people living in Jabalia, a camp historically associated with Hamas. Those interviewed openly condemn Hamas, blaming the group for the violence, hunger, and isolation that have become a part of their daily lives.

One resident shared, “Hamas has destroyed our lives, our homes, and the future of our children. We want nothing to do with them; we want peace and stability.” Another, with a mix of hope and desperation, expressed a surprising sentiment, wishing for Israeli governance to replace what they see as Hamas’s oppressive rule.

The film’s footage also captures the humanitarian efforts of Israeli soldiers providing water, food, and medical aid to displaced residents, underscoring the vast divide between Hamas’s treatment of its own people and Israel’s humanitarian response amid a volatile situation.

Alot of Palestinians don't like Hamas, but they are too scared to voice their opinions.
 
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Gazans are turning on Hamas but they cheered them they bought hostages back and they voted them in. Now they love the Israelis

God Take Revenge on You, Sinwar': Gazans Voice Rage and Despair, Blaming Hamas for Their Suffering


A powerful new documentary by News 12 sheds unprecedented light on the voices of Gaza’s residents, revealing a profound, unfiltered condemnation of Hamas from within the refugee camp of Jabalia. As they endure unimaginable suffering, these residents expose Hamas as the root of their turmoil, calling for a future free from its oppressive rule. This film offers a raw perspective rarely seen, giving the world an honest look at the hardship and hope of people longing for liberation from a life trapped in conflict.

Since the events of October 7, the world has been focused on Gaza, yet few have been able to see beyond the filtered reports controlled by factions within the area. Western and Israeli media alike have often struggled to portray the true sentiments of Gaza’s people, but this documentary, filmed by journalists embedded on the ground, aims to change that.

The documentary presents firsthand accounts of suffering, frustration, and anger from ordinary Gazans who feel abandoned and betrayed by Hamas. For the first time, viewers can hear direct testimonies of people living in Jabalia, a camp historically associated with Hamas. Those interviewed openly condemn Hamas, blaming the group for the violence, hunger, and isolation that have become a part of their daily lives.

One resident shared, “Hamas has destroyed our lives, our homes, and the future of our children. We want nothing to do with them; we want peace and stability.” Another, with a mix of hope and desperation, expressed a surprising sentiment, wishing for Israeli governance to replace what they see as Hamas’s oppressive rule.

The film’s footage also captures the humanitarian efforts of Israeli soldiers providing water, food, and medical aid to displaced residents, underscoring the vast divide between Hamas’s treatment of its own people and Israel’s humanitarian response amid a volatile situation.

When some Palestinians exhibit weakness, Resistance fighters gently correct their behaviour
 
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SchlongConery

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You really are a hate filled fool.

Your personal views, the views of a racial supremacist on an anonymous board, are worth less than a day's shit. Your posts are ignorant and hate filled rants all designed to justify killing a people based on their race so you can steal their land and give it away to foreigners.

You owe me an apology.
Sorry that it has come to saying this but your attitude, name calling and posting dead and mutilated baby porn is disgusting. And you are doing your cause a disservice.

I agree with much of what you say and am disgusted by the harm that Palestinians are suffering. Unlike you and your fantasies of Israel just giving land back and hoping Hamas and Hezbollah are going to play nice, I don't have the solution. But your vile words and especially accusing everyone who doesn't support your personal opinion 100% of being a supporter of genocide hurts your cause and your personal reputation. Klattuu? Who gives a fuck about him. He's just another (among hundreds of others) loser who has been banned and reincarneted himself under another nom de guerre. But you? You used to be a normal, level headed guy. Seems you've become a fanatic since.. oh.. October 6-7 or so.

Anyways, I hope you take your hate filled insults and serious accusations of saying peopel support genocide elsewhere. If you said to my face that I supported genocide, you wouldn't make that mistake again.

I hope the Mods have had enough of your blatant, hate mongering conduct breaking almost every forum rule.. and invite you to join another community.
 

Shaquille Oatmeal

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posting dead and mutilated baby porn is disgusting.
2 new rules would be good to add to the forum list of rules.
1. No posting twitter links.
2. No posting explicit pics depicting dead mutilated bodies of humans or animals.
I believe it will make the forums a better place.
However, Mitchell76 and Frankfooter will be largely out of business. :)
 

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Sorry that it has come to saying this but your attitude, name calling and posting dead and mutilated baby porn is disgusting. And you are doing your cause a disservice.

I agree with much of what you say and am disgusted by the harm that Palestinians are suffering. Unlike you and your fantasies of Israel just giving land back and hoping Hamas and Hezbollah are going to play nice, I don't have the solution. But your vile words and especially accusing everyone who doesn't support your personal opinion 100% of being a supporter of genocide hurts your cause and your personal reputation. Klattuu? Who gives a fuck about him. He's just another (among hundreds of others) loser who has been banned and reincarneted himself under another nom de guerre. But you? You used to be a normal, level headed guy. Seems you've become a fanatic since.. oh.. October 6-7 or so.

Anyways, I hope you take your hate filled insults and serious accusations of saying peopel support genocide elsewhere. If you said to my face that I supported genocide, you wouldn't make that mistake again.

I hope the Mods have had enough of your blatant, hate mongering conduct breaking almost every forum rule.. and invite you to join another community.
Every accusation by a Ziontologist is a confession
 
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It will take time but eventually hamas will be rejected by the Palestinians...all they have brought is suffering.
 

NotADcotor

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Maybe if everyone started reporting Frankfooter every time he breaks the rules, the mods will get sick of it and get rid of him... or the rest of us. Either way problem solved.
Seems he has some sort of protection, or perhaps the rules on hate speech, insults etc don't apply when the hate is directed towards Jews and the insults are in the name of killing them off.
 

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Maybe if everyone started reporting Frankfooter every time he breaks the rules, the mods will get sick of it and get rid of him... or the rest of us. Either way problem solved.
Seems he has some sort of protection, or perhaps the rules on hate speech, insults etc don't apply when the hate is directed towards Jews and the insults are in the name of killing them off.
I've been saying for a while that he brings nothing of value to the forum. All he does is foment ill will on TERB. All of his time is spent exclusively in the Politics forum initiating arguments. He does not belong here.
 

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Sorry that it has come to saying this but your attitude, name calling and posting dead and mutilated baby porn is disgusting. And you are doing your cause a disservice.

I agree with much of what you say and am disgusted by the harm that Palestinians are suffering. Unlike you and your fantasies of Israel just giving land back and hoping Hamas and Hezbollah are going to play nice, I don't have the solution. But your vile words and especially accusing everyone who doesn't support your personal opinion 100% of being a supporter of genocide hurts your cause and your personal reputation. Klattuu? Who gives a fuck about him. He's just another (among hundreds of others) loser who has been banned and reincarneted himself under another nom de guerre. But you? You used to be a normal, level headed guy. Seems you've become a fanatic since.. oh.. October 6-7 or so.

Anyways, I hope you take your hate filled insults and serious accusations of saying peopel support genocide elsewhere. If you said to my face that I supported genocide, you wouldn't make that mistake again.

I hope the Mods have had enough of your blatant, hate mongering conduct breaking almost every forum rule.. and invite you to join another community.
Here's the thing, Schlong.
I'm still the normal and level headed one here and you're here defending genocide.

Even after AIPAC and Israel worked to put trump in office, where he'll end support for Ukraine, you're still backing them.
The dead baby crap is because Israel has likely killed between 100,000 and 150,000 kids, using the numbers posted in the Lancet.

Notadoctor posted pretty vile crap and you took offence only with my more moderate reply.
That doesn't look normal, Schlong.

All I'm calling for is the end of the illegal occupation, the end of apartheid and the end of genocide.
Hold both sides to the law.
Why do you think that's vile?

Why do you think its vile to be pissed about people calling for genocide?

 

NotADcotor

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Notadoctor posted pretty vile crap and you took offence only with my more moderate reply.
That doesn't look normal, Schlong.
You have been spewing hate and misinformation and lies for ages and nothing is done about it.
TO be called vile by someone who wants to exterminate an entire race while accusing the people he wants exterminated of genocide when they are doing everything they can to avoid killing civilians in a built up area is a complement not an insult.

You lie about what your sources say
You lie about other users telling vile untruths about them.
you lie about Israel

you promote and praise terrorism and hate
Every statement I've backed up
Oh noes, you called me vile.

Also accusing someone speaking out against hate and river to sea genocide of things like promoting genocide and hate is as far as I am concerned much more vile than anything I've said to you or about you.
You have a track record of making groundless insults on other users. At least when I say something about you, I construct a bulletpoof case with links and evidence.

Don't play the fucking innocent with me. I am sick and tired of your bullshit and I am sick and tired of you getting a free pass. Not Hamas, not the Palestinians, I hate you as any moral and decent person should
 
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You have been spewing hate and misinformation and lies for ages and nothing is done about it.
TO be called vile by someone who wants to exterminate an entire race while accusing the people he wants exterminated of genocide when they are doing everything they can to avoid killing civilians in a built up area is a complement not an insult.

You lie about what your sources say
You lie about other users
you lie about Israel
you promote and praise terrorism and hate

Oh noes, you called me vile.

Also accusing someone speaking out against hate and river to sea genocide of things like promoting genocide and hate is as far as I am concerned much more vile than anything I've said to you or about you.

But I get a warning and nothing happens to you, I guess that thing in the rules about hate speech being banned does not apply to certain hate speech.
Bullshit.

I post legit sources describing Israeli genocide and you call those reports 'hate' and 'misinformation'.
That's on you, not me.

You say promoting genocide is vile. I agree. You are vile for promoting what is clearly genocide.

CBC reporting on a UN report.
UN count of Gaza war finds 70% of known victims are women, children
Israel rejects report, though UN used more rigorous sourcing than tolls reported from within Gaza


CBC reporting that the ICJ has ruled that Israel's occupation of Palestine is illegal and must be ended within a year.
ICJ says Israel's occupation of Palestinian territories is illegal

CNN reporting that the UN has found Israel to committing genocide and using starvation as a method of genocide.

Israel’s war conduct in Gaza ‘consistent with the characteristics of genocide,’ UN Special Committee finds
 

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There is no evidence of any intent to destroy in whole or part of any identifiable group unless you mean Hamas, in which case by trying to destroy the confederate army, the Union army was guilty of genocide. By trying to destroy the German army and the Nazi party the allies were guilty of genocide.
That is not what any normal person means by genocide.

Exterminating the Jews from RIver to Sea does fit that description.
South Africa dropped of what, 4,500 pages of evidence at the ICJ.
That argument is pathetic.

Israel is committing genocide on Palestinians, only Israel has been charged at the ICC and ICJ of genocide and extermination.

A partial list.

13 October 2023, Raz Segal, https://jewishcurrents.org/a-textbook-case-of-genocide
15 October 2023: Public Statement: Over 800 Scholars Warn of Potential Genocide in Gaza https://twailr.com/public-statement-scholars-warn-of-potential-genocide-in-gaza/
2 November: UN experts call to prevent genocide: https://un.org/unispal/document/gaza-is-running-out-of-time-un-experts-warn-demanding-a-ceasefire-to-prevent-genocide/
16 November: UN experts call to prevent genocide: https://ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2023/11/gaza-un-experts-call-international-community-prevent-genocide-against
16 November, William Schabas: https://ccrjustice.org/sites/default/files/attach/2023/11/Declaration%20Expert%20William%20Schabas_w.pdf
16 November: Holocaust and genocide scholars John Cox, Victoria Sanford, and Barry Trachtenberg declaration, https://ccrjustice.org/sites/default/files/attach/2023/11/Historians%20Declaration_w.pdf
29 December, South Africa submission to ICJ: https://icj-cij.org/sites/default/files/case-related/192/192-20231228-app-01-00-en.pdf
29 May, South Africa's dossier of evidence of Israel's genocidal intent, the UN Security Council: **************************************/nb6ua4a5 Martin Shaw, https://x.com/martinshawx/status/1820389008880361676
UN Expert Francesca Albanese, first report on the Genocide (March 2024): https://ohchr.org/sites/default/files/documents/hrbodies/hrcouncil/sessions-regular/session55/advance-versions/a-hrc-55-73-auv.pdf
UN Expert Francesca Albanese, second report on the Genocide (October 2024): https://documents.un.org/doc/undoc/gen/n24/279/68/pdf/n2427968.pdf… John Quigley, “Legal Standard for Genocide Intent: An Uphill Climb for Israel in Gaza Suit”, 14 March, EJIL: https://ejiltalk.org/legal-standard-for-genocide-intent-an-uphill-climb-for-israel-in-gaza-suit/
UK Judges’ and Lawyers’ Open Letter Concerning Gaza, 3 April 2024: https://lawyersletter.uk
Jinan Bastaki, Gaza, Forced Displacement, and Genocide”, EJIL, April 2024, https://ejiltalk.org/gaza-forced-displacement-and-genocide/
Nimer Sultany, “A Threshold Crossed: On Genocidal Intent and the Duty to Prevent Genocide in Palestine”, May 2024: https://tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/14623528.2024.2351261 University Network for Human Rights report, May 2024: https://humanrightsnetwork.org/publications/genocide-in-gaza
Aryeh Neier, NYRB, 6 June 2024: https://nybooks.com/articles/2024/06/06/is-israel-committing-genocide-aryeh-neier/?srsltid=AfmBOopOf1xbf1Ucx3Bvo11nN7VEEL-J7IA6jCNd9mhgWGeSUcLgQ9Y7
UN Commission of Inquiry, 10 June: Detailed findings on the military operations and attacks carried out in the Occupied Palestinian Territory from 7 October to 31 December 2023: https://ohchr.org/sites/default/files/documents/hrbodies/hrcouncil/sessions-regular/session56/a-hrc-56-crp-4.pdf
Oxfam, Water War Crimes report, July 2024: https://oxfam.org/en/press-releases/israel-using-water-weapon-war-gaza-supply-plummets-94-creating-deadly-health Omer Bartov, 13 August: https://theguardian.com/world/article/2024/aug/13/israel-gaza-historian-omer-bartov
Haaretz, “The Numbers Show: Gaza War Is One of the Bloodiest in the 21st Century”,
14 August: https://haaretz.com/middle-east-news/palestinians/2024-08-14/ty-article-magazine/.premium/the-death-toll-in-gaza-is-bad-even-compared-to-the-wars-in-ukraine-iraq-and-myanmar/00000191-50c6-d6a2-a7dd-d1decf340000
Maryam Jamshidi, On Genocidal Intent, August: https://opiniojuris.org/2024/08/02/reflecting-on-genocidal-intent-in-the-icj-case/
Forensic Architecture: cartographic analysis of the genocide in support of South Africa’s case in the ICJ: https://forensic-architecture.org/investigation/a-cartography-of-genocide… AOAV analysis that shows that vast majority of killed in Gaza are civilians: https://aoav.org.uk/2024/casualties-in-gaza-israels-claims-of-50-combatant-deaths-dont-add-up-at-least-74-of-the-dead-are-civilians/ 10 October 2024: UN Commission of Inquiry: Israel’s destruction of the health system in Gaza https://ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/10/un-commission-finds-war-crimes-and-crimes-against-humanity-israeli-attacks 8 November 2024: UN Commission of Inquiry: 70 percent of verified victims (October - 30 April) were children and women: https://ohchr.org/en/documents/reports/six-month-update-report-human-rights-situation-gaza-1-november-2023-30-april-2024 12 November 2024: 8 aid organisations of the systematic violation ICJ orders on humanitarian assistance, thereby establishing genocidal intent: https://oxfam.org/en/press-releases/joint-release-israel-receives-failing-grade-us-demands-gaza 14 November 2024: UN Special Committee Report https://ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/11/un-special-committee-finds-israels-warfare-methods-gaza-consistent-genocide North Gaza: 9 October 2024: 18 Aid organisations warn of dramatic escalation of humanitarian catastrophe in northern Gaza: https://oxfam.org.uk/media/press-releases/aid-organisations-warn-of-dramatic-escalation-of-humanitarian-catastrophe-following-further-mass-forced-displacement-of-civilians-in-northern-gaza/ 15 October: 38 organisations: “Northern Gaza is being wiped off the map”: https://oxfam.org/en/press-releases/urgent-joint-statement-northern-gaza-being-erased-global-leaders-must-act-now-end 1 November: statement by 15 UN and humanitarian organisations: http://bit.ly/40pLGqx
 
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