Sorry, what do you mean by "looney"
The animal stuff was Göring's. He was an avid hunter.
Hitler speech
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The animal stuff was Göring's. He was an avid hunter.
Now there is an actual educated opinion on the subject.
To be very vague, because I don't have the patience to get into it with some of the people on this board -
Hitler was hardly the Ring Master of everything that went on behind the scenes in WWII and the Holocaust. While it can be argued that he brought Germany out of hard economic times, it wasn't much of a new concept that war = production = money.
If you compare some of Hitler's early writing before The Beer Hall Putch and during his jail time, just before his rise to power, you will find that he wasn't even the eloquent speaker people believe him to be. And when it comes to being a General - I think the above quote says it best. In the end Hitler was ordering around armies that didn't even exist anymore, sending his troops into battle completely unprovided for, and having children (13-17) shoot older officers who turned against him. Hardly the makings of a man who should be held in regard.
If you want to know the minds that people should really fear you should look up some info on the under the scene players.
Joseph Goebbels - Minister of Propaganda - Incharge of Hitler's speeches and propaganda campaigns.
Heinrich Himmler - SS Reichsfuhrer - Overseer of the concentration camps, extermination camps, and Einsatzgruppen.
Herman Goring - Reichsmarschall
Adolf Eichmann - SS-Obersturmbannführer (Lieutenant Colonel) and one of the major organizers of the Holocaust. In my opinion one of the worst.
While Hitler's Holocaust can be compared to many other genocides, the industrialization of murder means and disposal of bodies is pretty unparalleled - to put that argument blunt and short.
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The main problem is that holocaust denial is a crime in many countries, one cannot even investigate or offer an alternative viewpoint. History is written by the victors, and we must accept the Jewish viewpoint. Any alternative is immediately frowned upon, and the revisionists jailed.
Certian Jews do have a knack of blowing thing out of proportion. Speilberg's Shindler's list shows men throwing old Germans off balcony's. No evidence this ever happened, among other things.
In all, Western media is very pro Jewish. And anyone who opposes their interests, such as Iran and Arabs, as shunned.
Personally I find it a debateable point, that chrildren in western highschools are only taught about the holocaust, and must read Anne Frank's diaries; and yet other distasteful events in history, such as the deaths caused by communism, the purges of Stalin, the Armenian genocide, the displacement of the palistenians, are completely avoided.
Are Armenians less important?
“Hitler has only got one ball,
Goring has two but very small,
Himmler has something similar,
But poor old Goebbels has no balls at all.”
Sung to the “Colonel Bogey March”
Hitler was at the right place at the right time, Germany was starving and people will listen to anyone promising them food and a better future.
The first few years of the war, his actual generals did the leading and Hitler was smart enough to listen (enough of the time). Rommel is still idolized by Western military (and in Africa, the Brits likeled him better than their own leadership until Mony). He was constantly undermining his generals decisions and it was mainly through the incompetence of Allied leadership and unpreparedness of Allied politicians early in the war that allowed Germany to succeed.
Giving credit to Hitler for turning around the German economy is also a weak argument since there was no other outcome of his policies other than war and there was no realistic way that they could have won - especially after Hitler's decision to attack Russia.
There is also this version:
Hitler has only got one ball,
The other is on the kitchen wall, [or] (the other is in the Albert Hall), or (in Northern England: The Leeds Town Hall)
His mother, the dirty bugger,
Chopped it off when he was small.
She threw it, into the apple tree
The wind blew it into the deep blue sea
Where the fishes got off their dishes and ate scallops and bollocks for tea
Actually not quite true. What is against the law is to make claims against well established facts. There are many respected historians investigating but there is a difference between a historian finding evidence that only 4 million were murdered and racist trash conspiracy theorists claiming there were no extermination camps. There is an immense amount of documentation about the Holocaust, much of it from Nazi sources and I have a sense that the only ones who try and deny major parts of the Holocaust are those who wish that Hitler completed the job. If that had happened though, they would have to find another group to blame their shortcomings on.
Yet another instance where you don't know what you are talking about. Kids study all sorts of cases of genocide these days but your narrow agenda won't let you see that.
His generals were always against his first moves, from the Rhineland remilitarization in the mid 30's up to France in 1940. He was in constant struggle with the german high command.
Note: his generals were in favour of Barbarossa, as they considered it a preemptive strike. But even then they went against his strategic plans.
The point is, he wasn't an abject failure. Perhaps a madman, but he led his armies to victory in the early years of the war.
