Hermann Goering: The truth

[danmand]

“Why of course the people don’t want war … But after all it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship … Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.”
Hermann Goering

 

[basketcase]

Wow. Quoting Goering?

 

[GPIDEAL]

Not surprising, eh? Even Hitler boasted about duping the people with lies.

 

[onthebottom]

Wow. Quoting Goering?

He's arguing against Roosevelts war of aggression....

 

[Keebler Elf]

Nothing like quoting a heroin addict.

 

[mandrill]

Nothing like quoting a heroin addict.

Who was so grossly incompetent that he lost the Battle of Britain despite outnumbering the RAF.

 

[jcpro]

On the other hand, at Nuremberg, they tested the defendants. Goering had the highest IQ by far of them all.

 

[mandrill]

On the other hand, at Nuremberg, they tested the defendants. Goering had the highest IQ by far of them all.

That's fascinating. While repugnant, the defendants had all achieved high status in their own society and that would presuppose they all had high IQ's. Jodl for instance was a high ranking military officer and Doenitz was the commander of the German Navy and the architect of the U-Boot war in the North Atlantic.

Goering was generally considered a buffoon by the rest of the Luftwaffe, due to his outlandish behaviour, ludicrous uniforms and lack of interest and aptitude for running the Luftwaffe.

 

[jcpro]

That's fascinating. While repugnant, the defendants had all achieved high status in their own society and that would presuppose they all had high IQ's. Jodl for instance was a high ranking military officer and Doenitz was the commander of the German Navy and the architect of the U-Boot war in the North Atlantic.

Goering was generally considered a buffoon by the rest of the Luftwaffe, due to his outlandish behaviour, ludicrous uniforms and lack of interest and aptitude for running the Luftwaffe.

forgot to add, his high IQ was somewhat tempered by his heavy opiates addiction

 

[SkyRider]

That's fascinating. While repugnant, the defendants had all achieved high status in their own society and that would presuppose they all had high IQ's.

The Nazi high command while morally bankrupt were highly intelligent and competent. It took the combined might of Russia, the U.S. and the British Empire to bring down the 3rd Reich. Evil and intelligence are not mutually exclusive.

 

[danmand]

The Nazi high command while morally bankrupt were highly intelligent and competent. It took the combined might of Russia, the U.S. and the British Empire to bring down the 3rd Reich. Evil and intelligence are not mutually exclusive.

Exactly, Goering was an exceptionally intelligent and capable person, and he played a pivotal role in the rise of the National Socialists. He was a war hero (fighter pilot ace) from the first world war.

He would have risen to the top of any society, good or evil.

 

[red]

“Why of course the people don’t want war … But after all it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship … Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.”
Hermann Goering

While this post should also be in the politcal affairs forum and the source is repugnant, the words are true.

These nazi political tricks are used every day

 

[SkyRider]

Exactly, Goering was an exceptionally intelligent and capable person, and he played a pivotal role in the rise of the National Socialists. He was a war hero (fighter pilot ace) from the first world war.

He would have risen to the top of any society, good or evil.

When General Patton took control of Bavaria at the end of WW II he had a bunch of former Nazis run the administration because they were competent. Truth be told, the Germans are extremely intelligent, competent and capable people. They make the best ball bearings in the world.

 

[shack]

Exactly, Goering was an exceptionally intelligent and capable person, and he played a pivotal role in the rise of the National Socialists. He was a war hero (fighter pilot ace) from the first world war.

He would have risen to the top of any society, good or evil.

Good to know a Nazi is a hero of your's. It speaks volumes.

 

[Ceiling Cat]

Goering was generally considered a buffoon by the rest of the Luftwaffe, due to his outlandish behaviour, ludicrous uniforms and lack of interest and aptitude for running the Luftwaffe.

The Nazi high command while morally bankrupt were highly intelligent and competent. It took the combined might of Russia, the U.S. and the British Empire to bring down the 3rd Reich. Evil and intelligence are not mutually exclusive.

My take is that some of these guys at the to were there for the pride and prestige. They wanted to be written into history as the people at the top that brought the superior Arnyan race to the forefront and dominate the lesser races.

Hitler had it all planned out from start to finish, once the war was over and the Aryan race was in control he planned to rule the world from Los Angeles because he liked movies and he wanted to be close to Hollywood. Pre war there was already Germans in L.A. setting up shop for the arrival of the Führer.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murphy_Ranch

 

[Aardvark154]

Göring was the only high ranking Nazi to have been awarded the Pour le Mérite during World War I.

Now of course he was a pilot, hence this was much easier than had he been a regular Army Officer or a Naval Officer. Erwin J. E. Rommel, having been awarded the Pour le Mérite as an Officer in the Alpenkorps, was a far more impressive achievement .

 

[SkyRider]

Erwin J. E. Rommel, having been awarded the Pour le Mérite as an Officer in the Alpenkorps, was a far more impressive achievement .

Wonder what would have been the course of WW II if he had not been wounded (and later murdered) and had disposed of Hitler?

 

[mandrill]

Wonder what would have been the course of WW II if he had not been wounded (and later murdered) and had disposed of Hitler?

Exactly the same. Germany was toast by July 1944.

 

[notthemama]

I am disgusted with this thread.
Promoting the virtues of a group of psychopathic bullies that lacked any empathy or remorse for the 10s of millions that suffered and died as a direct result of their actions is repellant.
Anyone who would say they had any redeeming qualities is just as evil as they were.
Being the child of holocaust survivors (not Jewish) I wish you could have heard the stories of depravity and anguish my parents recounted. All on the orders of your "heros" who were not man enough to do the dirty deeds themselves.
You should suffer for week what these victims went through. Doubtful you would survive.
You are just a thoughtless idiot.
Or worse yet, the evil spawn of those lower level perpetrators who escaped and still believe.
I've met enough of those.

 

[seth gecko]

Interesting reference Danmand.
Do you see any evidence of Herman ze Germans' claim that this tactic would work anywhere,,,even in a democracy?
I've been out of the loop of late, but isn't there an upcoming federal election in Canada?
By any chance, is the gov't claiming Canada is at risk of attack, say, from ISIS, and positioning themselves as the only ones strong enough to counter this "threat"?
Because, as brutal as ISIS are, you've got a better chance of hitting Lottomax and then getting hit by lightning the same day, than you do of being attacked by ISIS in Canada.