Hassan Nasrallah, Hezbollah leader, killed in Beirut in Israeli strike

richaceg

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Do Palestinians have the right to resist the illegal occupation of Palestine with force?

Does israel have the right to defend itself from aggression from neighboring countries? Who's fault is it arabs were displaced from their lands? There was no illegal occupation of Palestine...there was no Palestine....and there still isn't...but keep dreaming.
 

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Israel is not democratic. Democracies don’t rule millions of people without their consent for 75 years. Democracies don’t ethnically cleanse close to a million people because they are the wrong religion in order to create an ethno state. Democracies are by definition states for all their citizens - Israel has legislated that it is only a state for Jewish people. Israel has a series of laws that afford additional rights to Jews.
Some of this is true. However, you and a few others are waging an asymmetric propaganda war on social media.

Isn't it true those living under Hamas live under harsh civil and moral codes while propagating intolerance of many groups? Most of us do not see this melding with Western values. We don't necessarily favor all of Israel's actions the past fifty years, but we deem it to be a place that freedoms are more likely to flourish. So Israel is the "ethno state" we all should abhor? Cultural relativism has been dying in Western thought for some time now.

You have defined some of your argument around religion. I don't look at the religion. I look at the civility and the tolerance of a population. The Arab population in Israel makes up over 20% of the population. That is a sizeable minority that can bear influence on elections. (Oh yeah, elections. That inconvenient matter that the West clutches so fondly.)

I snatched this quote from a NY Post editorial: The Palestinian people are the prime victims of that propaganda, weaponized and infantilized by it, deceived into thinking that Israel’s success is the cause of all their problems. I think it aptly describes the ever-ending violence that Palestinians are trapped in.

In order for you to make better arguments on behalf of Palestinians, you need to be able to discuss the failings in their culture and leadership instead of your laser focus on Israel.
 
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richaceg

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Some of this is true. However, you and a few others are waging an asymmetric propaganda war on social media.

Isn't it true those living under Hamas enforces harsh civil and moral codes while propagating intolerance of many groups? Most of us do not see this melding with Western values. We don't necessarily favor all of Israel's actions the past fifty years, but we deem it to be a place that freedoms are more likely to flourish. So Israel is the "ethno state" we all should abhor? Cultural relativism has been dying in Western thought for some time now.

You have defined some of your argument around religion. I don't look at the religion. I look at the civility and the tolerance of a population. The Arab population in Israel makes up over 20% of the population. That is a sizeable minority that can bear influence on elections. (Oh yeah, elections. That inconvenient matter that the West clutches so fondly.)

I snatched this quote from a NY Post editorial: The Palestinian people are the prime victims of that propaganda, weaponized and infantilized by it, deceived into thinking that Israel’s success is the cause of all their problems. I think it aptly describes the ever-ending violence that Palestinians are trapped in.

In order for you to make better arguments on behalf of Palestinians, you need to be able to discuss the failings in their culture and leadership instead of your laser focus on Israel.
These idiots are trapped at "Israel has inforced "illegal occupation" in Palestine. they can't seem to blame anybody else on the displacement of palestinian arabs in the area other than Israel....the displacement caused by war, war Israel didn't start. If their leaders (Hamas) with all the funding they get from UN focused on making Gaza and West bank better instead of building tunnels and focus on attacking Israel...we won't even be here..
 
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I've watched you turn into a full on nazi now for a year.
First it was backing apartheid and the illegal occupation, then the genocide.
Now you back Israel attacking brown people all over the world and backing nuclear war.

You can't even see what you've become.
You are too funny Geno. Look at all of those laughable claims. 6 of them in such a short post and each more stupid than the last.

BTW, you left out claiming that I also eat babies.

You are unhinged and your posts are becoming more and more ridiculous.

Speaking of more, it seems that every day more people are calling you out for your lying and radical rhetoric. As a result you have to spend more time in front of the screen making more and more posts with the only result being you are becoming more ridiculed, have less credibility than ever and turning people against your cause. You are accomplishing absolutely nothing.

How does it feel to become more marginalized and less relevant. Keep up the good work, you clown.
 

shack

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You defend genocide because you think, like bucksnort, that Muslims and Arabs are genocidal maniacs?
Why not start from the basics.
Why not back international law instead of violence based on racism and tribalism.
This has all been discussed before. All of it.

You are simply trying to divert because you are getting totally hammered from all sides. More and more respectable TERB members with good morals are attacking your support of anti-Semitism and terrorism.

Keep wasting more and more of your time in front of the keyboard and accomplishing nothing.
 

shack

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Do Palestinians have the right to resist the illegal occupation of Palestine with force?
Keep diverting.

How many posts do you have so far today and it's not even noon? How much time are you wasting accomplishing nothing. How many different posters do you have to debate at once?

It reminds me of the last scene of Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid. You are totally overmatched. (Not sure if you ever have time for movies.)
 

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Does israel have the right to defend itself from aggression from neighboring countries? Who's fault is it arabs were displaced from their lands? There was no illegal occupation of Palestine...there was no Palestine....and there still isn't...but keep dreaming.
You refuse to state that Palestinians have the same rights as all other humans.
You are confirming you consider them to be sub human and not deserving human rights, the application of international law or any kind of equality.

By refusing to make a clear statement that Palestinians deserve basic human rights you've made yourself sound like bucksnot and the other racial supremacists.

Human Beings Are Not Insects, Vermin, Parasites, or Garbage
On the 80th anniversary of WW II, have we kept the promise to never forget?


 

Frankfooter

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Keep diverting.

How many posts do you have so far today and it's not even noon? How much time are you wasting accomplishing nothing. How many different posters do you have to debate at once?

It reminds me of the last scene of Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid. You are totally overmatched. (Not sure if you ever have time for movies.)
You also refuse to admit Palestinians and Muslims in general have basic human rights, you refuse to accept that international law applies and continue to support terrorist attacks.

How do you see this ending well?

 
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