Hamas are such jokers

[nottyboi]

Honestly how can anyone take these guys seriously. They are fighting an existential battle and show none of the ruthlessness of the Vietcong or even the IRA. They are allowing Israel to slaughter their people with very few consequences. If they were not jokers, they would announce that whenever Israel orders an evacuation in Gaza, hostages will be moved into that area. They don't even have to actually do it, just fuck with Israel. After the bombing announce which hostages were killed. I have to admit they are not very clever or ruthless. Rather clownish in fact. I wonder if they are actually complicit in the genocide.

 

[basketcase]

Honestly how can anyone take these guys seriously. ...

Because they have regularly been killing Jewish civilians since they were founded? But are you seriously complaining about Hamas because they aren't violent enough? Most of the rest of us would rather they do like the IRA (and PKK is talking about) and become a purely political group.

p.s. Because Israel takes security seriously and because Hamas has a hard time rearming, there isn't much they can do other than keep getting Palestinians killed to use as part of their propaganda campaign? That seems like the kind of ruthless you are asking for.

 

[nottyboi]

Because they have regularly been killing Jewish civilians since they were founded? But are you seriously complaining about Hamas because they aren't violent enough? Most of the rest of us would rather they do like the IRA (and PKK is talking about) and become a purely political group.

p.s. Because Israel takes security seriously and because Hamas has a hard time rearming, there isn't much they can do other than keep getting Palestinians killed to use as part of their propaganda campaign? That seems like the kind of ruthless you are asking for.

I am not saying should. They just cannot be taken seriously. Bibi is willing to murder every last Palestinian. If you are gonna use terror to achieve your political goals, objectively BIBI is far more committed then the Hamas clowns

 

[whynot888]

I am not saying should. They just cannot be taken seriously. Bibi is willing to murder every last Palestinian. If you are gonna use terror to achieve your political goals, objectively BIBI is far more committed then the Hamas clowns

Not denying Bibi is a POS, but Hamas itself are also responsible for the destruction and death of Palestinians. They put them frontline, take all the aid and shoots anyone who attempts to take them.

 

[Uwauwa]

Hamas are jihadi scum barbarian mohammedan terrorists.
Inshallah, Israel army finishes them soon.

 

[Kusa]

Many would rather die fighting than live enslaved forever. For anyone born in Gaza in the past 75 years, life itself has been a slow death—so does it even matter anymore?

Who would choose to live like this? I’ve never heard of a single soul.

 

[Frankfooter]

Because they have regularly been killing Jewish civilians since they were founded?

Every accusation is a confession.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1845791640419463312

 

[shack]

Many would rather die fighting than live enslaved forever.

If they accepted Israel's right to exist they wouldn't be occupied to the extent they are now. The proof is that when Israel initially withdrew from Gaza, they had much more freedom. But when, after Israel left, the bombings and terror attacks increased, Israel had no option other than to tighten the reins. And that's both before and after Oct.7. The civilians of Gaza can blame no other than hamas for the duress that they are currently under?

 

[nottyboi]

Hamas are jihadi scum barbarian mohammedan terrorists.
Inshallah, Israel army finishes them soon.

Nah that's not gonna happen either. If they IDF could not finish them 16 months, what has changed?

 

[nottyboi]

If they accepted Israel's right to exist they wouldn't be occupied to the extent they are now. The proof is that when Israel initially withdrew from Gaza, they had much more freedom. But when, after Israel left, the bombings and terror attacks increased, Israel had no option other than to tighten the reins. And that's both before and after Oct.7. The civilians of Gaza can blame no other than hamas for the duress that they are currently under?

Nonsense, the last time a Palestinian leader leader shook the hand of an Israeli President, the President was murdered by another Jew.. and later the Palestinian leader was murdered, also by jews.

 

[Kusa]

If they accepted Israel's right to exist they wouldn't be occupied to the extent they are now. The proof is that when Israel initially withdrew from Gaza, they had much more freedom. But when, after Israel left, the bombings and terror attacks increased, Israel had no option other than to tighten the reins. And that's both before and after Oct.7. The civilians of Gaza can blame no other than hamas for the duress that they are currently under?

To repost what @Frankfooter. Let's flip this...does Israel accept Palestinians right to exist?

 

[The Oracle]

If they accepted Israel's right to exist they wouldn't be occupied to the extent they are now. The proof is that when Israel initially withdrew from Gaza, they had much more freedom. But when, after Israel left, the bombings and terror attacks increased, Israel had no option other than to tighten the reins. And that's both before and after Oct.7. The civilians of Gaza can blame no other than hamas for the duress that they are currently under?

Bill Clinton had this whole mess figured out and the PLO walked away...How'd that work out

Bill Clinton reflects on Oslo's failure and the current Gaza war

During a live interview with comedian Billy Crystal, the former president laments missed opportunities for peace, defends Israel's right to self-defense.

www.jns.org

 

[nottyboi]

Bill Clinton had this whole mess figured out and the PLO walked away...How'd that work out

Bill Clinton reflects on Oslo's failure and the current Gaza war

During a live interview with comedian Billy Crystal, the former president laments missed opportunities for peace, defends Israel's right to self-defense.

www.jns.org

That was a shitty deal.

 

[shack]

Nonsense, the last time a Palestinian leader leader shook the hand of an Israeli President, the President was murdered by another Jew.. and later the Palestinian leader was murdered, also by jews.

None of that refutes my point that Israel's grip on Gaza tightened directly in response to continue fire attacks on Israel coming from Gaza.

 

[shack]

To repost what @Frankfooter. Let's flip this...does Israel accept Palestinians right to exist?

Yes, as long as Israel is guaranteed that they will not be attacked. Can Palestine guarantee that? Can they hold hamas, houthis and hezbolla in line?

 

[shack]

That was a shitty deal.

And the palis are worse off now than if they'd accepted the deal.

And they are waaay worse of than in they' accepted the deal and the land offered to them in 1949. That is 100% on the Arab leaders of that time. The land that they are currently fighting for is the land that was offered in 1949.

 

[Uwauwa]

Nah that's not gonna happen either. If they IDF could not finish them 16 months, what has changed?

Allahuakbar, they got the US blessing this time.

 

[Kusa]

Yes, as long as Israel is guaranteed that they will not be attacked. Can Palestine guarantee that? Can they hold hamas, houthis and hezbolla in line?

Absolutely, their survival hinges on that. You know very well that once the occupation and the land stealing ends life will be better for all. But the religious zealots and the believe in Jewish supremacy by the zionist is the primary source corruption in the land

 

[Frankfooter]

If they accepted Israel's right to exist they wouldn't be occupied to the extent they are now.

Why won't you recognize Palestine's right to exist?
The world and UN have repeatedly done so and ordered the war criminal lead Israeli government to end the illegal occupation of Palestine.

Why won't you accept Palestine's right to exist?

 

[richaceg]

Honestly how can anyone take these guys seriously. They are fighting an existential battle and show none of the ruthlessness of the Vietcong or even the IRA. They are allowing Israel to slaughter their people with very few consequences. If they were not jokers, they would announce that whenever Israel orders an evacuation in Gaza, hostages will be moved into that area. They don't even have to actually do it, just fuck with Israel. After the bombing announce which hostages were killed. I have to admit they are not very clever or ruthless. Rather clownish in fact. I wonder if they are actually complicit in the genocide.

You're basically suggesting Hamas fake putting hostages where Israel will bomb a Hamas outpost? How about just releasing hostages instead and work towards peace?