Asian Sexy Babe

Guantanamo Khadr interrogations

danmand

Well-known member
Nov 28, 2003
46,970
5,601
113
LancsLad said:
I pay for it, my rules.

I stay and start the fixing.


.
The reason I tell you to go back to England, is that you will be of more
use there. In Canada we have a principle of only one class of citizen. Either
you are a canadian or you are not. Every canadian must be treated the same.

The UK, on the other hand, has a tradition of having several classes of citizenship,
and it may still be possible to create a sub class of muslim citizens. You jhave to
be fast though, I believe the prognosis is that the UK will be prodominantly muslim
in 15 or 20 years. Then it will be too late to get a law like that through.
 

danmand

Well-known member
Nov 28, 2003
46,970
5,601
113
onthebottom said:
Did they kill solders with a grenade?

He's in the position he's in because of what he's done, it's just he never should have been put in that position by his parents to begin with.

OTB
Are you a judge? have you the knowledge to convict him?

Civilized people do not convict suspected criminals without a trial.
 

onthebottom

Never Been Justly Banned
Jan 10, 2002
40,881
197
63
Hooterville
www.scubadiving.com
danmand said:
Are you a judge? have you the knowledge to convict him?

Civilized people do not convict suspected criminals without a trial.
Have I convicted him of anything?

OTB
 

danmand

Well-known member
Nov 28, 2003
46,970
5,601
113
onthebottom said:
Have I convicted him of anything?

OTB

Cute response. Try again.

onthebottom said:
Did they kill solders with a grenade?

He's in the position he's in because of what he's done, it's just he never should have been put in that position by his parents to begin with.

OTB
 

shmeis007

Banned
Jul 22, 2007
318
0
0
danmand said:
Are you a judge? have you the knowledge to convict him?

Civilized people do not convict suspected criminals without a trial.

Unless there is new evidence other then what 397 news agency's have reported...then yes. Knowledge is there.
 

onthebottom

Never Been Justly Banned
Jan 10, 2002
40,881
197
63
Hooterville
www.scubadiving.com
danmand said:
Cute response. Try again.
What do you think we should do with him.....

OTB
 

Malibook

New member
Nov 16, 2001
4,612
2
0
Paradise
www.yourtraveltickets.com
Khadr was on the other side of the fight and they could have just left him there to die.
They could have just put him out of his misery then and there but they did not.
They saved his life and now he is getting free health care and room & board.
Much of the Canadian public does not sympathize with Khadr, including me.

Some say this could happen to anybody.
It could happen to anybody who goes to Afghanistan to fight with the Taliban.
He was not abducted off of the street in Canada.:rolleyes:
 

danmand

Well-known member
Nov 28, 2003
46,970
5,601
113
Malibook said:
Khadr was on the other side of the fight and they could have just left him there to die.
They could have just put him out of his misery then and there but they did not.
They saved his life and now he is getting free health care and room & board.
Much of the Canadian public does not sympathize with Khadr, including me.

Some say this could happen to anybody.
It could happen to anybody who goes to Afghanistan to fight with the Taliban.
He was not abducted off of the street in Canada.:rolleyes:

Do you have any boy children? Even if not, you should know that a boy of 15
is not allowed to drivie a car or have a handgun. There is a good reason for that: they are too immature.

Khadr was a child 15 years of age. We should not punish him for the sins of his parents.
 

danmand

Well-known member
Nov 28, 2003
46,970
5,601
113
onthebottom said:
What do you think we should do with him.....

OTB
You people should send him back to Canada.
 

shmeis007

Banned
Jul 22, 2007
318
0
0
onthebottom said:
What do you think we should do with him.....

OTB
Forget about him and let him rot in jail. He did use a grenade.
 

danmand

Well-known member
Nov 28, 2003
46,970
5,601
113
shmeis007 said:
Forget about him and let him rot in jail. He did use a grenade.
Were you there?


Khadr was the 'grenade man,' U.S. soldier maintains
Last Updated: Wednesday, February 6, 2008 | 3:44 PM ET
CBC News
A U.S. soldier said he was shocked to hear a new witness account that Canadian Omar Khadr wasn't the only one who could've lobbed a grenade that killed his military colleague, but maintains there is evidence it was him.

Sgt. Layne Morris, shown in a file photo, maintains that Omar Khadr threw the grenade that killed his colleague.
(CBC)
"That was a surprise. I talked to almost everybody who was in that compound or there that day and none of them mentioned that there was actually two guys alive in there," Sgt. Layne Morris told CBC Radio's The Current on Wednesday.

A classified document accidentally released earlier in the week said a second fighter was found alive in the suspected al-Qaeda compound when U.S. soldiers entered.

The account casts doubt on the official version of what happened in the firefight that saw U.S. medic Sgt. First Class Christopher J. Speer killed by a grenade.

Pentagon officials said Khadr, 15 at the time, ambushed American soldiers with a hand grenade after a four-hour fight at the compound in Afghanistan.

Officials later revealed nobody witnessed Khadr throw the grenade, but said that wasn't necessary because Khadr was the only al-Qaeda fighter left alive, and therefore the only person who could've tossed the weapon.

But the classified document, quoting an unidentified soldier, states that the soldier entered the back of the compound and killed the first fighter, who had an AK-47 rifle close to him.

The soldier then spotted Khadr, who was sitting up and facing away from him, and for unexplained reasons shot him twice in the back, the document says.

But Morris argues that the soldier's account still supports the Pentagon's position that Khadr threw the grenade.

"Omar wasn't the rifle man, Omar was the grenade man," said Morris, pointing to the account that the rifle was found by the first fighter.

"To me, [the document] doesn't change anything other than add a little more light on what was actually going on after the bombing raid had ceased," said Morris.

Khadr, 21, is the only Canadian imprisoned at the U.S. detention centre in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, where he has been held for nearly six years.

Khadr's military lawyer Lt.-Cmdr. Bill Kuebler has suggested that the U.S. military may have been involved in a coverup after discovering they had a "15-year-old Canadian on its hands with two gaping bullet holes in his back."

He hopes the unidentified soldier's account brings enough reasonable doubt that the charges against Khadr will be dismissed.
 

danmand

Well-known member
Nov 28, 2003
46,970
5,601
113
It does not appear to be a watertight case against Khadr.


http://www.thestar.com/News/World/article/346020


Evidence doctored to implicate Khadr: Lawyer

RENE JOHNSTON/TORONTO STAR FILE PHOTO
Soldiers wait at the gate of a Guantanamo Bay prison where Omar Khadr is held. Email story
Print
Choose text size
Report typo or correction
License this article


Emissary defends Gitmo trip Report released on Khadr treatment Supreme Court decision Dallaire blasts handling of Khadr case $500,000 paid for Khadr capture U.S. denies Khadr probe halted prematurely Khadr probe covered up: Lawyer Khadr interrogator convicted in prisoner's torture death U.S. denies Khadr ill-treated The view from Guantanamo Case draws Amnesty's attention Editorial: Ottawa's silence A saga too strange for fiction Documents
Visit report April 2008 (.pdf) Visit report March 2008 (.pdf) Detention policy (.pdf) Child soldier ruling (.pdf) Khadr affidavit (.pdf) U.S. Department of Defense referred charges on Omar Khadr Amnesty Internation Report on Military Commissions Multimedia
Star Video: Guantanamo Bay Guantanamo Bay photo gallery Can't deny terrorist's bid for a passport, judge rules
A Federal Court judge has dealt another blow to Canada's anti-terrorism legal framework by striking down rules allowing Ottawa to reject passport applications for reasons of national security.Mar 14, 2008 04:30 AM
Isabel Teotonio
STAFF REPORTER

GUANTANAMO BAY, Cuba–The U.S. government "manufactured" evidence against Omar Khadr when it changed a document two months after his arrest and blamed him for throwing a grenade during a firefight that killed a soldier, his lawyer said yesterday.

The defence made public two documents in a U.S. military war crimes court showing that the on-scene commander altered official documents recounting the events of July 27, 2002, when Khadr was arrested in Afghanistan following a firefight with U.S. forces.

Those documents were received from the prosecution as part of the discovery process.

The information casts further doubt on the culpability of the 21-year-old Toronto man, who was arrested at an Al Qaeda compound at the age of 15.
 

shmeis007

Banned
Jul 22, 2007
318
0
0
danmand said:
Were you there?
No. But I didnt need to be there either to know that lots of people were killed in Darfur. I didnt need to be there to know that lots of Jews were killed in the Holocaust. I didnt need to be there to know that the space shuttle exploded. I also didnt need to be there to know that Federer lost to Nadal at Wimbledon. There are enough different accounts to know what happened.
 

shmeis007

Banned
Jul 22, 2007
318
0
0
I didn't need to be there to know that Lewisnsky blew Clinton. I didnt need to be there to know that Paul Bernardo was a bad man.

Shall i go on?
 

mmmburritos

New member
Jun 17, 2005
195
0
0
Ok Danmand...

Since you started this thread why don't you come out and give us your thoughts on this issue.

All I have seen from you so far is a lot of sniping against other people's posts and some quoted news articles... It's kind of like you're fishing for someone to post something inflammatory so you can cut them apart and take some sort of moral high ground.

What would you do with this Boy/Man? Should we send him home to Canada? Back to his family so they can continue his education. Or was he an unlawful enemy combatant and should be convicted of a war crime?

Are you willing to face the same kind of scrutiny you seem to easily dole out?
 

WoodPeckr

Protuberant Member
May 29, 2002
47,063
6,189
113
North America
thewoodpecker.net
mmmburritos said:
What would you do with this Boy/Man? Should we send him home to Canada? Back to his family so they can continue his education. Or was he an unlawful enemy combatant and should be convicted of a war crime?
How about doing what most 'real' Democracies do and give him a fair trial. Isn't he due yet? I mean the delays in this regard smacks of what goes on in fascist, commie and nations run by dictators, no? Every case is different and a real trial should sort it out. I mean Dubya claims to be 'spreading freedom & democracy' so what's the hold up here.....:rolleyes:
 

mmmburritos

New member
Jun 17, 2005
195
0
0
WoodPeckr said:
How about doing what most 'real' Democracies do and give him a fair trial.

I agree he should be put on trial. What I don't get is why I should be appalled that he was interrogated, as the local media suggests I should be....
 

WoodPeckr

Protuberant Member
May 29, 2002
47,063
6,189
113
North America
thewoodpecker.net
mmmburritos said:
I agree he should be put on trial. What I don't get is why I should be appalled that he was interrogated, as the local media suggests I should be....
Perhaps they wonder was it interrogation or torture.
Team 'w' sees little difference between them.
 

gryfin

New member
Aug 30, 2001
9,632
0
0
onthebottom said:
Did they kill solders with a grenade?

He's in the position he's in because of what he's done, it's just he never should have been put in that position by his parents to begin with.

OTB
So far, there's scant evidence that he did. There is hard evidence that he was shot in the back while unarmed. And now he's in the midst of a kangaroo court administered by a kangaroo military justice system.

It's a travesty of justice that will be retold many times.
 

WoodPeckr

Protuberant Member
May 29, 2002
47,063
6,189
113
North America
thewoodpecker.net
gryfin said:
It's a travesty of justice that will retold many times.
Travesty is of no concern to bottie......he's a Dubya apologist!.....:rolleyes:
 
Toronto Escorts