Greenland

[Insidious Von]

Trump has already left the WHO by executive order.

Jr's Earth shattering trip to Greenland started with five words that will be immortalized: take me to your dealer.

 

[danmand]

"The sheep will spend its entire life fearing the wolf, only to be eaten by the shepherd"

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

Part of the reason why Trump is doing this to both Denmark and to Canada is because neither country is coming close to meeting its 2% of GDP expenditure on national defense. Denmark is 1.65% as of 2023 and Canada is a woeful 1.38%. Denmark is also the worst when it comes to % of defense spending on equipment.

https://www.nato.int/nato_static_fl2014/assets/pdf/2023/7/pdf/230707-def-exp-2023-en.pdf

Oooooh what amazing strategy to get them to spend 2%. lmao.
That is the funniest defense of this insanity I have seen in a while.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

If the US invades Greenland, that would probably signal the beginning of the end of close alliances amongst Western nations.
They'd get a dose of what happens when you are friends with the US as many developing nations have found out in the past.

 

[nottyboi]

yes,, but biggest barrier is regulatory. US has less
if the minerals are strategic, then it is worth

in any case, the US wants Greenland for security an power projection, mining is just a cherry on the top

it seems a ballistic missile launched from China will go directly above Greenland
What would Greenland bring to US security & power projection?

Its not for the minerals, its for the northern sea route. Russia plans to develop it and is building a massive fleet of nuclear ice breakers to do so.

 

[JohnLarue]

That is a silly argument.

USA constructed the Thule air base and the QEW installations in 1951, and have had free reign of military installations and placements ever since.

You do not know what military facilities Trump may want to put in Greenland
Has Greenland / Denmark given the greenlight to storing/ deploying Air Force Nuclear capabilities there?
Is there a US submarine base there?
It is a lot closer to Moscow / Russia than any continental US base or Alaska

Putin was bragging 1 -2 years about about some supersonic weapon they have
perhaps the counter needs to be further away from the states to be effective
Just buying Greenland may appear simpler than 2-5 year of negotiating permission for new tech to be installed

Likely not a pleasant consideration for you or the people of Greenland however that is irrelevant to Trump

 

[JohnLarue]

"The sheep will spend its entire life fearing the wolf, only to be eaten by the shepherd"

nature can be cruel
If there were no sheep, the Sheppard would eat wolves, or vegans

 

[JohnLarue]

Trump has already left the WHO by executive order.

Jr's Earth shattering trip to Greenland started with five words that will be immortalized: take me to your dealer.

nope
take me to your dealer is what you say when you get to Vegas
or jane and finch if you looking to fill the crack pipe. (not my cup of tea)

 

[danmand]

Its not for the minerals, its for the northern sea route. Russia plans to develop it and is building a massive fleet of nuclear ice breakers to do so.

USA, since wwII have had permission to put whatever bases and installations into Greenland. The most important ones being the Thule airbase and the QEW radar installations. BTW, there were Thermonuclear bombs at Thule air base.

Denmark is fine with that, as a good ally. And I am sure the Greenlanders are happy also, because it provides employment for them.

That is why USA do not gain any security advantage from taking Greenland. So why piss off one or more of the loyal, actually servile, NATO partners. Denmark is vital to NATO because it monitors the entrance to the Baltic Sea, and operate listening posts in the Baltic. Maybe with all the satellites that has become less important.

While the Danes are not gaining any benefits from Greenland, half off the GDP of Greenland is subsidies from Denmark, they do not like being treated roughly, when they have supported USA loyally in all it's wars and adventures.

 

[Valcazar]

I think (or maybe it is only a hope) that by threatening the Danes this way, their hackles may go up, and they will show some fortitude.

If Trump had been more diplomatic, he could have waited a bit and encouraged Greenland independence and things could have worked out for him. Playing the ugly American may not have been smart.

Anyway, I am only hoping.

So far that seems to have been the effect, but long-term, who knows?
Part of the problem is it is very difficult to know what Trump thinks is important about Greenland.
What he says can't really be trusted and his reasoning doesn't have to be grounded in reality.

 

[Valcazar]

Part of the reason why Trump is doing this to both Denmark and to Canada is because neither country is coming close to meeting its 2% of GDP expenditure on national defense. Denmark is 1.65% as of 2023 and Canada is a woeful 1.38%. Denmark is also the worst when it comes to % of defense spending on equipment.

https://www.nato.int/nato_static_fl2014/assets/pdf/2023/7/pdf/230707-def-exp-2023-en.pdf

So anyone who doesn't increase the defense spending should be invaded or threatened with takeover?
That's an interesting message to send to the world.

 

[Valcazar]

The US is gearing up for a potential war with China, they are rebuilding multiple WW2 bases like Guam, Tinian.
The point is, they don't need to add a base or 2 in Greenland, they need to militarize Greenland in a permanent basis, not by invitation, not subject to the whims of Inuit (Greenland) elders accepting the bases

That's one of the more interesting theories I've heard.

 

[Jubee]

Mr. Trump, Fuck Off! lol

'Mister Trump, F--k off': Danish politician says Greenland not for sale

Danish politician Anders Vistisen told US President Donald Trump to "f--k off" and said Greenland "is not for sale" in response to Trump's interest in making...

www.youtube.com

 

[nottyboi]

nature can be cruel
If there were no sheep, the Sheppard would eat wolves, or vegans

Korean Shepards proabably do lol.

 

[Valcazar]

Trump has already left the WHO by executive order.

Initiated the process.
It will take quite some time to actually be out of WHO, if I understand correctly.

 

[JohnLarue]

USA, since wwII have had permission to put whatever bases and installations into Greenland. The most important ones being the Thule airbase and the QEW radar installations. BTW, there were Thermonuclear bombs at Thule air base.

Denmark is fine with that, as a good ally. And I am sure the Greenlanders are happy also, because it provides employment for them.

That is why USA do not gain any security advantage from taking Greenland. So why piss off one or more of the loyal, actually servile, NATO partners. Denmark is vital to NATO because it monitors the entrance to the Baltic Sea, and operate listening posts in the Baltic. Maybe with all the satellites that has become less important.

While the Danes are not gaining any benefits from Greenland, half off the GDP of Greenland is subsidies from Denmark, they do not like being treated roughly, when they have supported USA loyally in all it's wars and adventures.

if you say Trump has the greenlight for nukes at Thule air base., I will believe you
He wants something that Greenland has

let try another guess

Greenland: Mining, Minerals, and Fuel Resources

This article discusses the mining, minerals, and fuel resources of Greenland.

www.azomining.com

Greenland has many rich mineral and natural resources including hydrocarbons, lead, iron ore, zinc, rare earth metals, gold, precious gemstones including diamonds, platinum, and uranium. Geological surveys and studies indicate the possibility of oil and gas fields in the northern and north-eastern parts of the country.

Despite/ in addition to his squeezing of Canada and Mexico, China is his real target
Rare Earth Metals are a problem as China has close to a monopoly on current rare earth productions.
Trump likely does not want to be dependant on China for anything


Trump doubles the US reserves by purchasing Greenland.

Rare earth metals like neodymium, cerium, lanthanum, dysprosium, and praseodymium are commonly used in the production of artificial intelligence chips, primarily due to their magnetic properties which are crucial for components like permanent magnets found in high-performance computing hardware; this high demand for rare earth metals is driven by the growing AI industry.

Canada has some Rare Earth Metals , so if that is what he is after, we have a leverage card to play.
Denmark also has a leverage card to play as there are no European nations on that list.
Don't sell it cheap. assuming the population on Greenland is willing


Does this logic hang together?

 

[Frankfooter]

The amazing thing is that people still take trump seriously.
Doddering idiot

https://twitter.com/x/status/1881710510124699683

 

[oil&gas]

 

[danmand]

There are about 200 American troops in Greenland.

 

[Valcazar]

I didn't realize taking Greenland early was part of the dream of the Technate.

Technate of America

Digitized content from the collections of Cornell University Library

digital.library.cornell.edu

"The government of the United States should take immediate action to acquire these territories and others, such as Greenland and the Galapagos Islands. The acquisition of these territories should be a mandatory part of the program of Continental defense for immediate achievement - either by purchase, negotiation, or the force of arms." (P. 12.)