Google Has Officially Changed The 'Gulf of Mexico' on Google Maps To The 'Gulf of America'

[Butler1000]

Look you idiot, I said they have access to it. They can opt for a high deductible plan. It’s not my fault they are a cashier. Also, you dont pay 400 a month you fucking moron. It varies by company and provider.

Go shove your high taxes up your ass you fool. Advocating for murder too huh. Is this what they teach in Canada after they steal your money to provide you with shit services. Use your socialized medicine to see a psychiatrist while you’re at it.

I know I'm right the minute you go to "access".

That is code for, only if you can afford it, and we are happy to overcharge you.

When you factor in the cost of healthcare premiums, along with wage depression, you actually pay more than we do, both because we have lower costs due to price schedules for procedures, and no profit margin/middleman insurance/shareholders. It's basic math.

Section 1: Cost of Health Insurance - 10480 | KFF

The average annual health insurance premiums in 2024 are $8,951 for single coverage and $25,572 for family coverage. The average single coverage premium increased 6% in 2024 while the average family premium increased 7%. The average family premium has increased 24% since 2019 and 52% since 2014...

www.kff.org

Average cost is almost $9000 for an individual and $25000 for a family of four. We pay less.

 

[PeterParker1000]

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Wait until you get older. I have many friends in USA who worked for IBM and other high tech companies. When old age sets in, they have health insurance, bet co-payments and prescription drugs cost more every year than they spend on housing. How many bankruptcies are caused by medical expenses in USA.

More importantly, universal health care is not just "fine" for the less advantaged. It is a basic human right to have access to health care. All civilized countries, even many poor countries recognize that.

I know many people from IBM from Armonk. I also have a dad in in that age group. They’re doing fine.

 

[Butler1000]

I’m not being lied to if a live it and it’s fine. Don’t speak for me you got it? You don’t even live here old man. Your system would fall apart if you had the population we didz

No it wouldn't. You already have Medicare. Loss the profit margin, but in universal price schedules, get rid of insurance companies who's entire business is to DENY COVERAGE and it would be fine.

You even get rid of most of malpractice insurance as well

 

[danmand]

Average cost is almost $9000 for an individual and $25000 for a family of four. We pay less.

The kicker is that we get better outcomes. Use any statistics, we get better outcomes.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

Advocating for murder too huh.

Cancelling plans when someone is diagnosed with a serious disease, and the entire principle of "delay, deny, defend" is murder.
It was a matter of time before someone was going to take matters in their own hands.
The majority both on the right and the left, don't care for the CEO.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

The kicker is that we get better outcomes. Use any statistics, we get better outcomes.

We live longer on an average too.
And we may have high wait times but when needed the system actually works pretty fast.

 

[danmand]

Medical bills are the leading cause of bankruptcy in the United States, affecting millions of Americans each year.

Why medical bills cause bankruptcy:

• High medical costs: The cost of healthcare is rising, and Americans pay more per person than other wealthy countries.
  
  
• Unexpected costs: Many Americans deplete their savings due to unexpected healthcare costs.
  
  
• High deductibles: Even those with health insurance may have high deductibles, making them underinsured.
  
  
• Surprise billing: Patients may be surprised by unexpected medical bills.

Effects of medical bankruptcy

• Medical bankruptcies can devastate families.
• They can lead to loss of homes, assets, and financial security.

And the bankruptcies are in middle class families. Add to that the poor people who are DENIED health care.

 

[richaceg]

You have no evidence of whether these programs are necessary or not necessary.
You are going by what Elon is telling you on twitter.
And based on screenshots posted there.
A program can be oversimplified and presented as sesame street in Iraq or whatever, but the details are never presented.
He needs to present details on why these programs are wasteful and do this via established protocols and not on a whim.
The Iraq sesame street or training for SL journalists to use pronouns may very well turn out to be needed programs.
You don't know what you don't know until you dive into the details of it.
Also don't forget that this is all a cover.
He will show you some of these programs and make them appear stupid on social media, while he is really going after agencies such as the CFPB and FEMA, that protects consumers or provides disaster relief.

But it was also confirmed by some democrat congressmen...they are just defending that it's still a good expense...
you on the other hand have zero evidence elon is doing what you're claiming...DOGE reports to the POTUS...they don't make decisions...

 

[PeterParker1000]

No it wouldn't. You already have Medicare. Loss the profit margin, but in universal price schedules, get rid of insurance companies who's entire business is to DENY COVERAGE and it would be fine.

You even get rid of most of malpractice insurance as well

I am not defending pharma or insurance companies. I’m not even talking about universal vs privatized healthcare.

Healthcare has been great for me and my family members, even at the worst of it. It’s a good system and you receive good service. You hijacked it and started talking about the lower class and how they don’t have it. Of course your universal system is going to be better for lower class.

 

[richaceg]

It won't happen. The GOP won't let in Puerto Rico or DC. Why would they want to add us?

Canada >>> PUerto Rico or DC...we have reserves that are quite lucrative for them...they just don't want to admit it...they might even adopt some of our systems (health care) and regulations...

 

[PeterParker1000]

Cancelling plans when someone is diagnosed with a serious disease, and the entire principle of "delay, deny, defend" is murder.
It was a matter of time before someone was going to take matters in their own hands.
The majority both on the right and the left, don't care for the CEO.

You advocate killing? You care about these lower class so much that you advocate this? Our insurance, PBM’s, and pharma companies are seriously flawed and profit driven but you don’t kill a person over it. It doesn’t equate. The patients died because their body failed them, not because of healthcare coverage.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

But it was also confirmed by some democrat congressmen...they are just defending that it's still a good expense...
you on the other hand have zero evidence elon is doing what you're claiming...DOGE reports to the POTUS...they don't make decisions...

I have no evidence?
My evidence is Trump and Elon going after FEMA and CFPB.
That is out there in the public sphere.
And as far as the expenses go they are presenting screenshots from usaspending.gov.
It is a cover on top of not adhering to protocols and operating without oversight and acting on a whim.

 

[mark moo]

Interesting how a simple update about Google Maps led to a deep discussion on urban planning and privacy concerns, classic internet I guess

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

You advocate killing? You care about these lower class so much that you advocate this? Our insurance, PBM’s, and pharma companies are seriously flawed and profit driven but you don’t kill a person over it. It doesn’t equate. The patients died because their body failed them, not because of healthcare coverage.

I don't advocate it.
But I refuse to feel any empathy for gunned down psychopaths who would cancel a woman's insurance after she is diagnosed with breast cancer and she submits a claim, on the pretext that she failed to report acne as a pre-existing condition, claiming insurance fraud.
The patients died because their failing bodies could not get medical help because the insurance company wouldn't pay for their care.
These people can rot in hell.

 

[danmand]

I am not defending pharma or insurance companies. I’m not even talking about universal vs privatized healthcare.

Healthcare has been great for me and my family members, even at the worst of it. It’s a good system and you receive good service. You hijacked it and started talking about the lower class and how they don’t have it. Of course your universal system is going to be better for lower class.

But, Mr.Parker, the Canadian Universal system has been great for me and my family members. In general, we get prompt service, and in the cases, where I would have had to wait, I simply go to US and use the private system.
We have both, a universal system and access to private health care in USA.

By, the way, companies in Canada generally provide coverage for prescription drugs, vision care and dental care.

 

[PeterParker1000]

But, Mr.Parker, the Canadian Universal system has been great for me and my family members. In general, we get prompt service, and in the cases, where I would have had to wait, I simply go to US and use the private system.
We have both, a universal system and access to private health care in USA.

By, the way, companies in Canada generally provide coverage for prescription drugs, vision care and dental care.

That’s great that you have access to both. The biggest complaint I hear are prompt access to providers. If that’s not true, then I take your word on it rather than what I read, because you have actual experience using it.

 

[Butler1000]

I am not defending pharma or insurance companies. I’m not even talking about universal vs privatized healthcare.

Healthcare has been great for me and my family members, even at the worst of it. It’s a good system and you receive good service. You hijacked it and started talking about the lower class and how they don’t have it. Of course your universal system is going to be better for lower class.

So lesser people deserve worse coverage?

Money for shareholders is more important than helping out your fellow Americans?

It's not "hijacking" it's examining the core values behind your privatization system vs the our universal one. The basic premise is we believe that healthcare is a right all human beings should have. That on a human being's worst day they should be treated with compassion, and not have the added worry they will bankrupt themselves or their family. Or have to spend hours on the phone justifying doctor diagnosed treatment to an uncaring insurance approval system.

That if a kid get leukemia, we don't give a shit what the parents do for a living, we just want to save the kid. If a kid get hit by a car, we will heal them. If a father gets Cancer, we will heal them, so they can go back to their family. So an expectant mother can get pre and post natal care, or if it's a preemie we will make sure that kid gets the help it needs. Because it's the right thing to do.

And you just said you don't give a shit about that. Only you matter. Not your fellow Americans.

No thanks.

 

[Butler1000]

You advocate killing? You care about these lower class so much that you advocate this? Our insurance, PBM’s, and pharma companies are seriously flawed and profit driven but you don’t kill a person over it. It doesn’t equate. The patients died because their body failed them, not because of healthcare coverage.

When you have the means to cure someone, but make it too expensive to do it, that is killing them.

High insulin costs are killing Americans - Right Care Alliance

rightcarealliance.org

Here is a simple case where making insulin too expensive(we charge far less, for a drug btw developed by a Canadian and given free to the world) kills people. Solely for profit margin.

They died, with the means to not die, Solely due to profit.

 

[PeterParker1000]

So lesser people deserve worse coverage?

Money for shareholders is more important than helping out your fellow Americans?

It's not "hijacking" it's examining the core values behind your privatization system vs the our universal one. The basic premise is we believe that healthcare is a right all human beings should have. That on a human being's worst day they should be treated with compassion, and not have the added worry they will bankrupt themselves or their family. Or have to spend hours on the phone justifying doctor diagnosed treatment to an uncaring insurance approval system.

That if a kid get leukemia, we don't give a shit what the parents do for a living, we just want to save the kid. If a kid get hit by a car, we will heal them. If a father gets Cancer, we will heal them, so they can go back to their family. So an expectant mother can get pre and post natal care, or if it's a preemie we will make sure that kid gets the help it needs. Because it's the right thing to do.

And you just said you don't give a shit about that. Only you matter. Not your fellow Americans.

No thanks.

What a not well thought out, emotionally charged response. You present a false dichotomy - suggesting that the only choices are either universal healthcare or a system that is cruel, profit-driven, and indifferent to human suffering. The reality is far more complex.

Healthcare is not just a “right”. It is far more complex than that. You can’t just turn on universal healthcare without massive trade offs. We are 40b in debt. We can’t add another 70b and plunge everyone into economic chaos in order to save some dad dying of cancer. I will always take the 80/20 principle on implementing policies.

You are a tiny country by population and don’t have the same burdens as the US. You can implement things like this contingent your economy doesn’t fail.

 

[JeanGary Diablo]

Google France enters the chat and fucks with the Yanks.