GO JUSTIN GOOOOOOO

[Anbarandy]

We all return it because it just goes back to them in carbon tax anyway.

Question for you: When did you start liking getting bribed with your own money?

There's a whole thread and more where you are caught in the act, red handed, leaving smoking gun evidence by peppering said thread with post after post after post "liking getting bribed with your money" as you stated and defending your dear leader The Thug for doing so.

 

[Anbarandy]

It needs to be pointed out, Ford's money is actually a rebate based off performance. Justin's money is a desperate attempt to distract you from his cabinets corruption and other blunders.

Really?

Ur not serious now r u?

Utter nonsense.

Borrowing $3.4billion for an unlegislated, unnecessary, unneeded and unwanted more than1 year earlier than required election to desperately get ahead of the upcoming bombshell RCMP Greenbelt investigation in addition to piling on over $120billion in added debt onto the backs of taxpayers in addition to producing a plus $6billiob budgetary deficit while squandering billions up billions of scarce resources in furtherance of private sector interests does NOT:

EQUAL "ACTUALLY A REBATE BASED OFF PERFORMANCE"

Now, I've smelled utter bullshit before, but your's and his reek, stink and stank the worst.

 

[bazokajoe]

So to get back on track, will provinces be reimbursed for the loss of provincial sales tax if the HST is removed for the proposed 2 months?

 

[Insidious Von]

Mama come si pizzica!

This guy doesn't mince words. Popularized by Bono, a billionaire rock musician who harangued world leaders to support Africa, while putting in $0.00 to the cause himself.

Due to the joys of nepotism his daughter has a career as an actor.

 

[Frankfooter]

There are 8 billion people on the planet. One could make the argument that anyone's individual efforts wouldn't make a difference so why bother.

Now if the argument is that there are some big emitters who won't do shit no matter what we do so there is no point, then you got something. No point trying if the Americans, Chinese and Indians et al are going to burn bitch burn. However this we are 1.5% therefore we can do whatever the fuck we want but larger countries are expected to act, then can't you see the issue there?

We hit 1.5ºC this year and have a 50% chance that the AMOC will shut down in the next 25 years.
You're a moron if you don't think that's important.

 

[Frankfooter]

This mouth breather understands the concepts of inflation and recessions he holds a degree in Economics. Here are the past 'official' inflation figures since 2020
2020: 0.72%
2021: 3.40%
2022: 6.80%
2023: 3.88%
Total: 14.8%
I cannot find conclusive stats on average income growth but I'd conservatively guess its been 2.5% per year. Which would leave the average family behind by about 5%. Not great but that wouldn't necessitate government handouts. Or maybe, just maybe, the inflation rates are not accurate, which I have maintained all along for years. Even before Covid19.
Marked increases in unemployment rates are a leading indicator of pending recessions. Q2 growth was pacing to 2%. Q3 only 1%. I wouldn't be shocked if Q4 came in at zero or negative.

And inflation is down to 2% right now.
So that means Trudeau and the libs beat inflation, doing as well or better than the rest of the G7.

 

[Frankfooter]

So to get back on track, will provinces be reimbursed for the loss of provincial sales tax if the HST is removed for the proposed 2 months?

This only applies to the federal portion.
The provinces will still be taxing you.

 

[Skoob]

Ah, well yeah, this was the reason for the rebate, you know , to offset the cost but for the poor who do not have a car, or own property actually is a benefit but hey, that doesn't fit into Skoob facts.

Question, is Dougie bribing you with your own money? Question, will you send Doug's check back and tell him to shove it up his fat ass as you will be doing with the cheque Justin sends you. Of course, you will be returning Justin's as well asking him to shove it up his skinny ass no??

So you do like being bribed with your own money, thanks for clarifying.

You think the carbon tax only affects someone who drives a car???? hahahaha that's funny!

btw seeing as Trudeau is terrified and now copying Conservative strategies, when do you think he's going to get rid of the carbon tax?

 

[Skoob]

Have you ever heard me complain about Dougy's bribe??

I never complain about tax money coming back and I like this because it goes to the average shmo.

The "Dougy bribe" didn't come from first getting hit with a stupid cash-grab tax.
So the average shmo makes $150k per year? Cool.

 

[Skoob]

There's a whole thread and more where you are caught in the act, red handed, leaving smoking gun evidence by peppering said thread with post after post after post "liking getting bribed with your money" as you stated and defending your dear leader The Thug for doing so.

Difference is Ford didn't first hit us with a stupid tax ponzi scheme before giving back some money.

Maybe one day when you graduate kindergarten you'll figure out the difference.

 

[squeezer]

The "Dougy bribe" didn't come from first getting hit with a stupid cash-grab tax.
So the average shmo makes $150k per year? Cool.

At least it's means-tested, unlike Dougies!

Which is fine, I prefer Dougies because at least I get a little taste of tax money coming back.

Will you be thanking Justin or giving it back?

 

[squeezer]

So you do like being bribed with your own money, thanks for clarifying.

You think the carbon tax only affects someone who drives a car???? hahahaha that's funny!

btw seeing as Trudeau is terrified and now copying Conservative strategies, when do you think he's going to get rid of the carbon tax?

Actually it was an NDP idea but hey, never let facts get in the way of your good story.

 

[Skoob]

At least it's means-tested, unlike Dougies!

Which is fine, I prefer Dougies because at least I get a little taste of tax money coming back.

Will you be thanking Justin or giving it back?

Tested? wtf do you mean?

Like I said, I'm giving it back. Which part of that didn't you understand?

Mind you, you think the carbon tax only affects gas prices and makes people richer through a rebate cheque so why do I bother educating someone who's brainwashed?

 

[Skoob]

Actually it was an NDP idea but hey, never let facts get in the way of your good story.

You mean the New Democrat Liberal Party of Canada? Are you suggesting there's a difference? Does it really matter either way?

The NDP know that if the Liberals get obliterated in the next election, they will get obliterated as well.

So can we call them Co-Thieves now?

 

[NotADcotor]

Question from a mouth breather. When have those other taxes been lowered in Canada? Income tax, property tax, etc.?

I never said they were lowered, nor that other taxes were raised, never implied it. I am talking about ideal tax policy.
But to quote Ice T from Body Count. Shit ain't like that, it's real fucked up.

 

[NotADcotor]

This mouth breather understands the concepts of inflation and recessions he holds a degree in Economics. Here are the past 'official' inflation figures since 2020
2020: 0.72%
2021: 3.40%
2022: 6.80%
2023: 3.88%
Total: 14.8%
I cannot find conclusive stats on average income growth but I'd conservatively guess its been 2.5% per year. Which would leave the average family behind by about 5%. Not great but that wouldn't necessitate government handouts. Or maybe, just maybe, the inflation rates are not accurate, which I have maintained all along for years. Even before Covid19.
Marked increases in unemployment rates are a leading indicator of pending recessions. Q2 growth was pacing to 2%. Q3 only 1%. I wouldn't be shocked if Q4 came in at zero or negative.

You said sarcastically this
"Wait I thought inflation was under control tracking at only 2% And they say we're not in recession despite our unemployment rate increasing from 5% in January 2023 to 6.5% in October 2024. So why would people need more government handouts and tax relief?"

Also in that particular moment, I wasn't even thinking of you as the mouth breather believe it or not. Not a fan of democracy and the average voter. I was attacking TrueDooh.
Actually we are basically in agreement. People see high prices and assume they will continue even though inflation is back down to normal levels. Even if 5% was correct, AND it was something that necessitated the government borrowing money to fix, the mounts suggested, a temp GST cut on a few items would do nothing.

That I was slagging TrueDooh and the typical voter view is hinted at not very subtlety here.
"But the reason people need more handouts and reliefs is because that is a great way to buy votes. Sure it causes problems down the road, but that is future government's problem to deal with."

As for the second point
I said.
"Granted increases in unemployment rates come with recessions, and an increase in unemployment rate can be a warning that a recession is going to happen."
Which is another way of saying what you said
Marked increases in unemployment rates are a leading indicator of pending recessions.

So we cool?

Also point of order
Guess what degree AOC holds. Cough Cough. Just sayin. I wonder if I should return my econ degree. It's embarrassing to be in such company.

 

[NotADcotor]

We hit 1.5ºC this year and have a 50% chance that the AMOC will shut down in the next 25 years.
You're a moron if you don't think that's important.

I never not once said it wasn't important.

This is what I said.
"
There are 8 billion people on the planet. One could make the argument that anyone's individual efforts wouldn't make a difference so why bother.

Now if the argument is that there are some big emitters who won't do shit no matter what we do so there is no point, then you got something. No point trying if the Americans, Chinese and Indians et al are going to burn bitch burn. However this we are 1.5% therefore we can do whatever the fuck we want but larger countries are expected to act, then can't you see the issue there? "

Obvious my first sentence was in reference to the argument that is we are 1.5 percent of the problem why do anything, I was applying it to it's reasonable end point to show that it isn't a valid agreement.
The wording of my second point sets up where I was going in the first.
My last sentence literally attacks the idea as non valid
My second point also in no way says it isn't important. It is a truth that we are all in this together and if the big emitters won't do shit we are fucked anyway.


In my previous point two steps above I said
"Just to be clear, climate change is a real thing, it's serious" and lamented that people say a lot of nice things but complain when actually asked to do something meaningful.

You seem to have a very limited ability to understand what you are reading shown over and over. That or you are so desperate to "get me" that you Trumpian style will post any shit, misrepresenting and lying hoping it will stick not figuring out that you keep faceplanting. At least with Trump he has his cultists who cum over every word, you only have Klatuu.

Not a good look.

 

[NotADcotor]

You mean the New Democrat Liberal Party of Canada? Are you suggesting there's a difference? Does it really matter either way?

The NDP know that if the Liberals get obliterated in the next election, they will get obliterated as well.

So can we call them Co-Thieves now?

According to every poll, Liberal numbers are crashing but the NDP is pretty much in their usual range. So literally not true.

 

[NotADcotor]

This only applies to the federal portion.
The provinces will still be taxing you.

Even in provinces with Harmonized sales tax. Buddy did say HST.

 

[Frankfooter]

I never not once said it wasn't important.

This is what I said.
"
There are 8 billion people on the planet. One could make the argument that anyone's individual efforts wouldn't make a difference so why bother.

Now if the argument is that there are some big emitters who won't do shit no matter what we do so there is no point, then you got something. No point trying if the Americans, Chinese and Indians et al are going to burn bitch burn. However this we are 1.5% therefore we can do whatever the fuck we want but larger countries are expected to act, then can't you see the issue there? "

Obvious my first sentence was in reference to the argument that is we are 1.5 percent of the problem why do anything, I was applying it to it's reasonable end point to show that it isn't a valid agreement.
The wording of my second point sets up where I was going in the first.
My last sentence literally attacks the idea as non valid
My second point also in no way says it isn't important. It is a truth that we are all in this together and if the big emitters won't do shit we are fucked anyway.


In my previous point two steps above I said
"Just to be clear, climate change is a real thing, it's serious" and lamented that people say a lot of nice things but complain when actually asked to do something meaningful.

You seem to have a very limited ability to understand what you are reading shown over and over. That or you are so desperate to "get me" that you Trumpian style will post any shit, misrepresenting and lying hoping it will stick not figuring out that you keep faceplanting. At least with Trump he has his cultists who cum over every word, you only have Klatuu.

Not a good look.

Change has to be systematic, sure. Its like all the oil$gas posts on this board, the industry is greenwashing and trying to blame people with plastic straws or not recycling enough while they rake in the cash killing public transit and renewables.

What you argued for is an attempt to justify doing nothing because you're just one puny person in one small population.

We need to start with some bigger moves, ban all private jets would be a good start.