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Glenn Beck in trouble over Norway-Hitler Youth jibe

GLENDA KWEK

Firebrand US talk show host Glenn Beck has sparked controversy over his comments about Norway's massacre victims.

In a monologue on the syndicated radio show The Glenn Beck Program, the conservative commentator said: "There was a shooting at a political camp, which sounds a little like, you know, the Hitler Youth or whatever. I mean, who does a camp for kids that's all about politics? Disturbing."

The Hitler Youth - Hitler Jugend - was an organisation set up by Adolf Hitler in the 1920s to indoctrinate young Germans in Nazi ideology.

Sixty-eight people died after self-confessed Norwegian "crusader" Anders Behring Breivik opened fire at the ruling Labour Party youth camp on Utoya island, which was attended by 600 people, on Friday.

Eight people died after the bombing of Norway's government headquarters in Oslo on the same day. The Labour Party is seen as left-leaning.

A former press secretary to Norwegian Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg slammed Beck's statements as a "new low", saying they were "ignorant" and "extremely hurtful".

"Young political activists have gathered at Utoya for over 60 years to learn about and be part of democracy, the very opposite of what the Hitler Youth was about," Torbjorn Eriksen told London's Daily Telegraph.

"Glenn Beck's comments are ignorant, incorrect and extremely hurtful."

Another Labour member and political scientist, Frank Aarebrot, told Norwegian newspaper Dagbladet it was "just frightening that there are people who are doing such terrible ... stories like this".

The worst thing is that some would see Beck's comments as objective reporting, he said, labelling Beck a "vulgar propagandist".

Tea Party supporters in the United States have hosted their own political youth camps, the Telegraph reported.
 

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Glenn Beck said: "There was a shooting at a political camp, which sounds a little like, you know, the Hitler Youth or whatever. I mean, who does a camp for kids that's all about politics? Disturbing."
He touched the third rail "the Hitler/Nazi" analogy.

That said this is in significant measure a Continental European - North American thing. From a North American perspective the idea of a political party youth camp is strange.
 

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He touched the third rail "the Hitler/Nazi" analogy.

That said this is in significant measure a Continental European - North American thing. From a North American perspective the idea of a political party youth camp is strange.
I expected you to approve of Glen Beck's ravings.

Calling the young people killed by a nazi sympathiser for "hitlerjugend" has to be the height of despicability. But, as I said, I expected you to endorse it. You have no shame whatsoever.
 

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Beck is a despicable sleazebag even too much for Fox which is saying something.
 

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are you serious?.. this raving lunatic is really the "Voice" of the conservative right?...it's a disgusting comparision ..those who support this guy are all in the same boat...dispicable
 

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Indeed it was "touching the third rail".
So you're saying he just, whoops, misstepped and touched the third rail? He knew exactly what he was saying.
 

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So you're saying he just, whoops, misstepped and touched the third rail? He knew exactly what he was saying.
Maybe he did, maybe he didn't, I'm not clairvoyant.

What I do believe is fairly certain is had he said "Komsomol" rather than "Hitler Youth" this would have been a non-issue.
 

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Maybe he did, maybe he didn't, I'm not clairvoyant.

What I do believe is fairly certain is had he said "Komsomol" rather than "Hitler Youth" this would have been a non-issue.
Perhaps, and most people would have to look it up as did I, but he didn't say that. Perhaps some day he'll trip and fall on the third rail.
 
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It seems the shooter targeted the camp because it was a political youth camp for the children of the Labour Party. As such he wanted to kill those kids as some sort of sick payback for the "treason" of their leftist-leaning political parents.

I think what Beck probably meant was that it wasn't a boy scout convention that was targeted because the shooter wanted to kill kids in general, but rather was a political-themed camp linked to the government which was the reason he picked it to make what he claims is a political statement after bombing a government building. The two attacks were linked in the shooter's desire to attack the Labour Party. So, since political-themed camps are not a popular North American thing, Beck was voicing his displeasure at the idea of a political-themed camp with the Hitler Youth comparison. If you as a North American were in a conversation with someone and they said "political youth camp for boys" what image would come to your mind? I think Hitler Youth would come to mind as it is the image most associate with such.

Of course this came out wrong in Beck's case and made it look like he was implying the victims were in a Hitler Youth camp, when they were not. Certainly if someone told me there is an island in northern Europe where blond youths meet for political camp linked to the government, Hitler Youth is what would first come to mind, though taking the time to research it would prove otherwise.
 

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Agreed, it was an idiotic and hurtful statement. I can only imagine a parent of one of those kids hearing that statement. Beck needs to apologize.
 

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Looks like Beck popped one OxyContin too many!....:rolleyes:
 

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Another reason as to why Glen Beck is the biggest douchebag in the universe.
 

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Another reason as to why Glen Beck is the biggest douchebag in the universe.
Followed closely by Aardie and alexmst who are condoning his ravings.
 

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He touched the third rail "the Hitler/Nazi" analogy.
Although I’m sure the comparison is overblown, I have to admit that the Hitler Youth similarity entered by mind shortly after I heard about this. I would have thought Norway would have been even more sensitive to it given its occupation.

That said this is in significant measure a Continental European - North American thing. From a North American perspective the idea of a political party youth camp is strange.
I think you’re right about it being a North American – European thing. Here, I think any political party would get very bad publicity if it tried recruiting 14 year olds. However, I suppose it is really no different from religions recruiting young people which is acceptable in both places. In both cases, there is an incentive to recruit followers well they are still impressionable. However, I'm guessing Beck would never argue against the second. It brings up an interesting question of why different societies come to different conclusions on when it is acceptable to recruit children/young people to different causes.
 

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Although I’m sure the comparison is overblown, I have to admit that the Hitler Youth similarity entered by mind shortly after I heard about this. I would have thought Norway would have been even more sensitive to it given its occupation.
What??? You too?? I had not expected this from you. These kids were killed by a nazi sympathiser!!!

I think you’re right about it being a North American – European thing. Here, I think any political party would get very bad publicity if it tried recruiting 14 year olds. However, I suppose it is really no different from religions recruiting young people which is acceptable in both places. In both cases, there is an incentive to recruit followers well they are still impressionable. However, I'm guessing Beck would never argue against the second. It brings up an interesting question of why different societies come to different conclusions on when it is acceptable to recruit children/young people to different causes.
I remember you having posted about the sad state of democracy, i.e. that many people have no idea of what they are voting for etc. etc. The democracy is alive and well in Norway, with voter turnout at 78% instead of the 59% for Canada. Most high school students are involved in politics, and I can assure you that these youth organizations are NOT indoctrination events.

By the way, political parties in Canada, except the conservatives who dissolved the Progressive Conservative youth organization, have youth organizations.
 
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