Giving UP

RayFinkel

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Does anyone else have a shit life. Do you find yourself stuck and unable to break of a day by day week where its always the same.
I have no close friends or relationships that matter.
Work and home thats it.
I wish a truck would go overtop the guard-rail on the 401 each moring I travel to work and crush my import fuel economic 4-cylindar piece of shit.

I think about suicide every day.
Ya its that bad and go fuck yourself if you say its not.
 

RayFinkel

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I knew someone would say some sort of easy and lame bullshit about this and dont think ( I didn`t think it would be you SHEIK)I`m being sorry for myself. I just really feel Its the end of the line.

Really guys thanks for trying. I have a real boring lfe that sucks shit. I`m fucked up beyond belief mentally. I cant handle social situations and feel so fucked up.
When doing hardcore drugs I feel great and thats the only time.

Sorry for letting go and voicing my mental state on the web.
I guess its pretty bad that I`ve lowered myself to this forum.
 

JohnDoe

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rayfinkel said:
Does anyone else have a shit life. Do you find yourself stuck and unable to break of a day by day week where its always the same.
I have no close friends or relationships that matter.
Work and home thats it.
I wish a truck would go overtop the guard-rail on the 401 each moring I travel to work and crush my import fuel economic 4-cylindar piece of shit.

I think about suicide every day.
Ya its that bad and go fuck yourself if you say its not.
I'm in the same situation as you are. I've done the therapy thing for 3 years and have given up as well. Try some therapy first for at least a year. Maybe antidepressant drugs can help you, but you have to try them for at least a year or two. If that doesn't work out, then I think you have the right to end your own life.

If you do decide to kill yourself, make sure you do it in a manner that won't injure anyone, and again try therapy for a least a year or two before you decide to kill yourself.
 

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Ray,

If you are feeling "trapped" by your life, yes I have been there. I have no simple answers, but perhaps I can offer you a small ray of hope. Over the last 9 months, my life has been turned upside down, inside out, and changed in ways that I could not have possibly forseen. Whatever my life was when I was feeling "trapped", rest assured that it is something entirely different now. Your life may offer you opportunities when you least expect them. Keep your head up and your eyes open.
 

Big Daddy

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I don't have too many friends or a steady relationship, but I am OK with that. Honestly, I am not sure why should you feel shitty. I am a single guy living in the middle of married guys, and I don't want the misery of the families surrounding me.

I think a good financial status and a good workout makes and keeps me happy. Seems you have a job, so get a workout in a nearest gym. Workout so hard that your brain stops thinking. Eat and go to bed. When the brain does not think the depression goes away naturally. I think my approach is better than doing drugs!
 
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rayfinkel said:

When doing hardcore drugs I feel great and thats the only time.
This, of course, is part of your problem. Depression and hard-core drugs are a lousy mix.

I'm sorry, chum, it sounds like you're having a rough go of it, but to be perfectly frank I've got precious little sympathy - especially if your only problem is "boredom". Stop trying your best to fuck up your own life. Then we'll talk seriously.

I say this as someone who's been down and back on the road you're on - several times. I'm not going to be touchy-feely with you just because you come onto a forum and threaten to kill yourself. I think you'll find this is case with most of us recovering nut-jobs.

I guess its pretty bad that I`ve lowered myself to this forum.
Thanks! We appreciate your support.

Maybe antidepressant drugs can help you, but you have to try them for at least a year or two. If that doesn't work out, then I think you have the right to end your own life.
This may well be the single worst piece of advice ever given on TERB.
 

RayFinkel

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I`m not looking for sympathy im just speaking my mind tonight because zI feel like it.
I dont usually confide in anyone these days I just felt like it was the time to do it so I did it.

I thave read and re-read everyone post and taken it to heart.

Thanks alot I will think about EVERYTHING
 

JohnDoe

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Drunken Master said:

This may well be the single worst piece of advice ever given on TERB.
The right to end one's own life is a fundamental freedom that should not be taken away from anyone. I did recommend he seek therapy so ray can be able rationalize his thoughts more thouroughly. If that doesn't work out, then he should be able to end his own life if he wants to.
 

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No matter how bad it really gets,there is always going to be someone there for you sweety, if you ever and I mean ever need to talk to someone please PM me and I will give you my msn address, there are really alot of great people I know this,and I also know have alot of resources if you are interested let me know I have alot names and numbers.....Take care of yourself sweety and please please pm me ! Ive got tears for you right now cause I have been there,it will get better,(I hated hearing that)but it does so keep the faith..

oxoxox MInx oxoxoxo
 
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JohnDoe said:
The right to end one's own life is a fundamental freedom that should not be taken away from anyone. I did recommend he seek therapy so ray can be able rationalize his thoughts more thouroughly. If that doesn't work out, then he should be able to end his own life if he wants to.
I'm sorry, but this is not a debate on euthanasia. Can you seriously be promoting the "Well, you gave life a try for a year or two, and it didn't work out. Thank God there's another option...." line?
 

JohnDoe

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Drunken Master said:
I'm sorry, but this is not a debate on euthanasia. Can you seriously be promoting the "Well, you gave life a try for a year or two, and it didn't work out. Thank God there's another option...." line?
If you've sought all the help you possibly can medically, and you still want to kill yourself, then I think it is reasonable to take your own life so long as no one is injured in the process. Life is not for everyone - contrary to what "prevention" pamphlets say.

Why should someone continue years of pain and suffering even after going through years of treatment just because society says suicide is wrong.
 

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Ray -- speaking from someone who has come back from a suicide attempt, please consider seeking help from trained professionals. They saved my life, and for me, it's very much worth living for again. And (they is key), don't be afraid to walk away from them if you don't feel it's a good mix, or that you can't seem to "mesh" with them. It's more than just getting advice and medication, you have to "click" with them they same you would with someone you feel comfortable with upon first meeting. Good luck, and don't ever hesitate to PM me if I can be of help...
 
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JohnDoe said:
If you've sought all the help you possibly can medically, and you still want to kill yourself, then I think it is reasonable to take your own life so long as no one is injured in the process. Life is not for everyone - contrary to what "prevention" pamphlets say.

Why should someone continue years of pain and suffering even after going through years of treatment just because society says suicide is wrong.
Look, you want to argue the justness of a cancer patient killing themselves , you'll get no qaurrel from me. Mental illness is simply a different kettle of fish. Most forms of mental illness are treatable. Aside from that, ray seems to be suffering from nothing more serious than Shitty Life Syndrome (with maybe a little Social Anxiety thrown in), which most of us have endured. A year or two? Hell, haven't we all had crappy years? I'd rather stick hot knives in my brain that live through most of my twenties again - no money, no job, no girlfriend, borderline alcoholism and raging depression and anxiety. Surprise, surprise, I'm still around. And life has improved. If you had told me things we going to get better during my darkest hours, I would have told you to get your happy self outside and to proceed to fuck that happy self.

You see, depression also interfered with my ability to be eloquent.

I'm not debating anyone's "right" to commit suicide. I'm also not saying whether or not things will get better for ray - I'm not Kresgin. I'm saying that you are being way too quick to pull the trigger on this "last resort" - crappy pun intended. Hell, by your logic, why even wait a couple of years? Why not test the effectiveness of the suicide barrier on Danforth bridge after a few depressing months?
 

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Good luck, rayfinkel, I hope you heed the advise to get some professional help.
You say that you 'don't usually confide in anyone these days'.....but thats exactly what you need to do!
there are many good people around you who are only too willing to help you, if you will reach out and contact them! Contact Minx for more info....or in Toronto you can call a distress centre at 416-408-4357. Don't keep this problem bottled up inside, Ray, but reach out to someone who can help you.
Life is a bitch sometimes, but there are solutions!.... you have already taken the first step of admitting the problem. Now please talk to someone who can help you further.
 

JohnDoe

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Drunken Master said:
Look, you want to argue the justness of a cancer patient killing themselves , you'll get no qaurrel from me. Mental illness is simply a different kettle of fish. Most forms of mental illness are treatable. Aside from that, ray seems to be suffering from nothing more serious than Shitty Life Syndrome (with maybe a little Social Anxiety thrown in), which most of us have endured. A year or two? Hell, haven't we all had crappy years? I'd rather stick hot knives in my brain that live through most of my twenties again - no money, no job, no girlfriend, borderline alcoholism and raging depression and anxiety. Surprise, surprise, I'm still around. And life has improved. If you had told me things we going to get better during my darkest hours, I would have told you to get your happy self outside and to proceed to fuck that happy self.

You see, depression also interfered with my ability to be eloquent.

I'm not debating anyone's "right" to commit suicide. I'm also not saying whether or not things will get better for ray - I'm not Kresgin. I'm saying that you are being way too quick to pull the trigger on this "last resort" - crappy pun intended. Hell, by your logic, why even wait a couple of years? Why not test the effectiveness of the suicide barrier on Danforth bridge after a few depressing months?
The reason I said a couple of years instead of a few months is because it takes a few weeks for antidepressants to work if at all, and there might be the switching of antidepressants along the way if a given drug does not work. Living through a single day of mental torture is unbearable enough, nevermind years worth of the same.
 

RayFinkel

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] to all you guys and gals you say you`ve gone through this. Im not sure you have, not sure its the same bullshit crap im going through right now. No one out there can help me or try to comprehend my predicament that is LIFE.

Life is SHIT LIFE SUCKS AND LIFE IS NOT WORTH LIVING.

END.
 

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JohnDoe said:
The right to end one's own life is a fundamental freedom that should not be taken away from anyone. I did recommend he seek therapy so ray can be able rationalize his thoughts more thouroughly. If that doesn't work out, then he should be able to end his own life if he wants to.
But if he kills himself, he's broken the law and may have to go to jail. Just think how bad he'll feel then.
 

Big Daddy

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rayfinkel said:

Life is SHIT LIFE SUCKS AND LIFE IS NOT WORTH LIVING.

END.
What makes you so sure that after life is not shit? It is kicking ass in shitty life that makes it worth living.
 

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The doctor is in
Ray,

Please.... pick up the phone and call your local distress center. I used to volunteer on a crisis line, and I know of many who have been helped by just having someone there to listen. Do it now.
 
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