Get ready Kamala fans...this is just the beginning

[Frankfooter]

Kamala Harris has no individual electoral success at the national level. Her ascent to Democratic nominee is realistically a default appointment.

Still way more experience than rump had before his run.
As VP you don't get anything better as experience.

 

[squeezer]

Too funny and they want her to be the next president ? The cloud id above us

Too Funny and they want him to be the next President? Hit the body with a very powerful light

 

[squeezer]

This guy looks like he understands politics really well and it would be safe to follow his lead

The question is will Trump stick to all the free lifetime buffets he offered the fella to wear the t-shirt.

 

[WyattEarp]

Why is that a game-changer? Those who don't want to vote for her are still free to refrain.

When Biden was nommed in 2020, did he have any individual success at the national level?.... Not really. He rode Obama's coat tails.

It's very simple. Biden won primaries to get the nomination. We don't have a parliamentary system where the party members decide who will be the party leader.

Whether we use the phrase "game-changer" which you introduced, her expected nomination is unprecedented. I think it's fair for Republicans to point out that she didn't earn the nomination. Kamala can't be cordoned off from such criticism. They should however be careful how hard they push on DEI.

All in all, the Democrats are in a better place with her than Biden.

 

[mandrill]

It's very simple. Biden won primaries to get the nomination. We don't have a parliamentary system where the party members decide who will be the party leader.

Whether we use the phrase "game-changer" which you introduced, her expected nomination is unprecedented. I think it's fair for Republicans to point out that she didn't earn the nomination. Kamala can't be cordoned off from such criticism. They should however be careful how hard they push on DEI.

All in all, the Democrats are in a better place with her than Biden.

If Trump collapses from a stroke or a coronary in early September, won't the same situation propel JD Vance into the presidential nomination?

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

Latest battleground polls have Trump beating Harris in all States except for Michigan

2024 Michigan: Trump vs. Harris | RealClearPolling

2024 Michigan: Trump vs. Harris | RealClearPolling

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2024 Arizona: Trump vs. Harris | RealClearPolling

2024 Arizona: Trump vs. Harris | RealClearPolling

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2024 Nevada: Trump vs. Harris | RealClearPolling

2024 Nevada: Trump vs. Harris | RealClearPolling

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2024 Wisconsin: Trump vs. Harris | RealClearPolling

2024 Wisconsin: Trump vs. Harris | RealClearPolling

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2024 Pennsylvania: Trump vs. Harris | RealClearPolling

2024 Pennsylvania: Trump vs. Harris | RealClearPolling

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2024 North Carolina: Trump vs. Harris | RealClearPolling

2024 North Carolina: Trump vs. Harris | RealClearPolling

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2024 Georgia: Trump vs. Harris | RealClearPolling

2024 Georgia: Trump vs. Harris | RealClearPolling

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Electoral map

No Toss Up States | RealClearPolling

No Toss Up States | RealClearPolling

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[WyattEarp]

If Trump collapses from a stroke or a coronary in early September, won't the same situation propel JD Vance into the presidential nomination?

First, I suspect Vance would be subject to criticism of not being the people's choice. Probably from you in fact.

More importantly, your hypothetical relies on many of us suspending our belief that Biden was cognitively impaired months prior to the June debate. You and others can believe time caught up with Biden in June. Republicans will continuously remind voters of what appeared to be an effort from the Biden team and many Democratic leaders to conceal this decline.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

If Trump collapses from a stroke or a coronary in early September

You're quietly hoping for that, arent you??

 

[WyattEarp]

Latest battleground polls have Trump beating Harris in all States except for Michigan

2024 Arizona: Trump vs. Harris | RealClearPolling

2024 Arizona: Trump vs. Harris | RealClearPolling

www.realclearpolling.com

2024 Nevada: Trump vs. Harris | RealClearPolling

2024 Nevada: Trump vs. Harris | RealClearPolling

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2024 Wisconsin: Trump vs. Harris | RealClearPolling

2024 Wisconsin: Trump vs. Harris | RealClearPolling

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2024 Pennsylvania: Trump vs. Harris | RealClearPolling

2024 Pennsylvania: Trump vs. Harris | RealClearPolling

www.realclearpolling.com

2024 North Carolina: Trump vs. Harris | RealClearPolling

2024 North Carolina: Trump vs. Harris | RealClearPolling

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2024 Georgia: Trump vs. Harris | RealClearPolling

2024 Georgia: Trump vs. Harris | RealClearPolling

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Electoral map

No Toss Up States | RealClearPolling

No Toss Up States | RealClearPolling

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Kamala has so much work to do that I wouldn't give any poll much credence. The Trump campaign also has to find its footing post-Biden. I wouldn't start paying attention until mid-September.

 

[mandrill]

First, I suspect Vance would be subject to criticism of not being the people's choice. Probably from you in fact.

I would support a Vance candidacy with my dying breath. A man that esteemed and accomplished deserves a chance to hump the WH couches.

More importantly, your hypothetical relies on many of us suspending our belief that Biden was cognitively impaired months prior to the June debate. You and others can believe time caught up with Biden in June. Republicans will continuously remind voters of what appeared to be an effort from the Biden team and many Democratic leaders to conceal this decline.

I'm sure Biden was a senile as Methuselah throughout the last year or so of his tenure. And it's not the place of his staffers to act as whistleblowers and Joe himself likely doesn't realize how much he has deteriorated.

Trump's senile too.

So you're 0 for 2, Earp.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

Kamala has so much work to do that I wouldn't give any poll much credence. The Trump campaign also has to find its footing post-Biden. I wouldn't start paying attention until mid-September

Agreed, but @squeezer seems to think Kamaltoe has this election already wrapped, so I have to bring him back down to reality

 

[WyattEarp]

I would support a Vance candidacy with my dying breath. A man that esteemed and accomplished deserves a chance to hump the WH couches.

I'm sure Biden was a senile as Methuselah throughout the last year or so of his tenure. And it's not the place of his staffers to act as whistleblowers and Joe himself likely doesn't realize how much he has deteriorated.

Trump's senile too.

So you're 0 for 2, Earp.

I think you're lost somewhere in this conversation. I'm just explaining to you how some will perceive the nomination of Kamala Harris and how it's fair to raise this point. Your hypothetical is a reasonable point, but Kamala's "coronation" is the reality.

Are you keeping a lifetime scoring tab between us? In fairness, could you let me know when the conversation turns to competitive scoring? Thanks.

 

[mandrill]

I think you're lost somewhere in this conversation. I'm just explaining to you how some will perceive the nomination of Kamala Harris and how it's fair to raise this point. Your hypothetical is a reasonable point, but Kamala's "coronation" is the reality.

Are you keeping a lifetime scoring tab between us? In fairness, could you let me know when the conversation turns to competitive scoring? Thanks.

No. But you made 2 off base assumptions as to how I perceived the issues around the nomination of Harris and Biden dropping out and I corrected them.

Let me toss something out there. It's a Republican "thing" to constantly cast aspersion at the Dems. That said, who do you think should have "blown the whistle" on Biden's cognitive decline before his disastrous debate?.... One of his junior or mid level staffers?... How far do you think that would have gone?..... Probably nowhere, right? It would simply have cost the staffer his / her career.

Someone more senior?..... Wouldn't the same issues of loyalty and "teamplay" be raised?... Again the complaint would have gone nowhere and the complainant's career would have been destroyed.

You think anyone with a still-viable career in the GOP is going to whistle-blow that Trump's as senile as a 20 year old blind and deaf mutt-bitch lying on the rug by the door?... They're not going to do that either for the same reason.

So spare me the finger-pointing.

 

[WyattEarp]

Agreed, but @squeezer seems to think Kamaltoe has this election already wrapped, so I have to bring him back down to reality

Of course, I see this taking a daily pulse on the polls as a bit extraneous. We spent several months listening to people tell us how Biden has his shit together and he's going to beat Trump. Then BAM! It's Kamala and she's the second coming of Elvis.

All I can see is she got the race back to where it was several months ago. If I was a liberal, I would be wary of polls telling us it's neck and neck. I still think Trump under polls. I don't see 2024 be any different.

As far as squeeze, as long as he wears underpants I just kind of accept that he is going to don a cheerleader outfit.

 

[WyattEarp]

No. But you made 2 off base assumptions as to how I perceived the issues around the nomination of Harris and Biden dropping out and I corrected them.

I think you are alluding to something you have in your mind that doesn't show up in your posts here. Please explain. The score is 2 to 0 mandrill. Please let me know what game we are playing?

Let me toss something out there. It's a Republican "thing" to constantly cast aspersion at the Dems.

This is a uniquely progressive mindset. Politics is so confrontational. Why can't conservatives play nice? I'm sorry it's not reasonable to expect them to refrain from questioning Kamala's coronation. When you are sleeping in the barn, don't complain about the smell.

That said, who do you think should have "blown the whistle" on Biden's cognitive decline before his disastrous debate?.... One of his junior or mid level staffers?... How far do you think that would have gone?..... Probably nowhere, right? It would simply have cost the staffer his / her career.

Someone more senior?..... Wouldn't the same issues of loyalty and "teamplay" be raised?... Again the complaint would have gone nowhere and the complainant's career would have been destroyed.

Did you really think this through? Groupthink is not an excuse. It's a plight. Perhaps I can have some empathy for junior and mid-level staffers. However, the Obamas, Pelosi, Clooney and other big donors with access couldn't call this into question? Really? Once one person who is impervious to backlash makes the case the dike breaks sort of speak.

You think anyone with a still-viable career in the GOP is going to whistle-blow that Trump's as senile as a 20 year old blind and deaf mutt-bitch lying on the rug by the door?... They're not going to do that either for the same reason.

Yes, I believe Nikki Haley and others have. The problem is if one is merely criticizing 2024 Trump because he sounds like 2016 Trump that doesn't really establish senility. It simply establishes competition or enmity. Which in itself is fair, but an entirely different thing.

By the way, glad you are a compassionate supporter of the blind and deaf. It's touching.

 

[WyattEarp]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1820543130682499572

You certainly post a lot, but this is a very strange clip. How does this clip go over in Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania?

California makes a progressive Democrat's political muscles atrophy.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1820543130682499572

Who's the blonde on the right??

 

[squeezer]

Agreed, but @squeezer seems to think Kamaltoe has this election already wrapped, so I have to bring him back down to reality

Wrapped with a big pink bowtie!

 

[Frankfooter]

I can't help posting a lot. Kamala is such an awful presidential candidate!!

and yet

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1820443930145550608

 

[WyattEarp]

Who's the blonde on the right??