Get ready Kamala fans...this is just the beginning

[Phil C. McNasty]

 

[Leimonis]

This guy looks like he understands politics really well and it would be safe to follow his lead

 

[mandrill]

That's always been the conundrum. As far as VP's go, Kamala is fine in the job. There's never been a high bar.

I think U.S. politics is all about DEI every which way. Kamala's VP choice is going to be a white dude. Biden was the white dude on Obama's ticket and Pence was the white, Christian dude. It's safe to say Obama earned his trip to the White House.

However, we've never been in this situation. We have had Presidents die and resign. The VP becomes the President and that's that. Vice Presidents have also run for the Presidency and had to earn it through the primary process.

Kamala Harris has no individual electoral success at the national level. Her ascent to Democratic nominee is realistically a default appointment.

Why is that a game-changer? Those who don't want to vote for her are still free to refrain.

When Biden was nommed in 2020, did he have any individual success at the national level?.... Not really. He rode Obama's coat tails.

 

[Frankfooter]

Kamala Harris has no individual electoral success at the national level. Her ascent to Democratic nominee is realistically a default appointment.

Still way more experience than rump had before his run.
As VP you don't get anything better as experience.

 

[squeezer]

Too funny and they want her to be the next president ? The cloud id above us

Too Funny and they want him to be the next President? Hit the body with a very powerful light

 

[squeezer]

This guy looks like he understands politics really well and it would be safe to follow his lead

The question is will Trump stick to all the free lifetime buffets he offered the fella to wear the t-shirt.

 

[WyattEarp]

Why is that a game-changer? Those who don't want to vote for her are still free to refrain.

When Biden was nommed in 2020, did he have any individual success at the national level?.... Not really. He rode Obama's coat tails.

It's very simple. Biden won primaries to get the nomination. We don't have a parliamentary system where the party members decide who will be the party leader.

Whether we use the phrase "game-changer" which you introduced, her expected nomination is unprecedented. I think it's fair for Republicans to point out that she didn't earn the nomination. Kamala can't be cordoned off from such criticism. They should however be careful how hard they push on DEI.

All in all, the Democrats are in a better place with her than Biden.

 

[mandrill]

It's very simple. Biden won primaries to get the nomination. We don't have a parliamentary system where the party members decide who will be the party leader.

Whether we use the phrase "game-changer" which you introduced, her expected nomination is unprecedented. I think it's fair for Republicans to point out that she didn't earn the nomination. Kamala can't be cordoned off from such criticism. They should however be careful how hard they push on DEI.

All in all, the Democrats are in a better place with her than Biden.

If Trump collapses from a stroke or a coronary in early September, won't the same situation propel JD Vance into the presidential nomination?

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

Latest battleground polls have Trump beating Harris in all States except for Michigan

2024 Michigan: Trump vs. Harris | RealClearPolling

2024 Michigan: Trump vs. Harris | RealClearPolling

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2024 Arizona: Trump vs. Harris | RealClearPolling

2024 Arizona: Trump vs. Harris | RealClearPolling

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2024 Nevada: Trump vs. Harris | RealClearPolling

2024 Nevada: Trump vs. Harris | RealClearPolling

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2024 Wisconsin: Trump vs. Harris | RealClearPolling

2024 Wisconsin: Trump vs. Harris | RealClearPolling

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2024 Pennsylvania: Trump vs. Harris | RealClearPolling

2024 Pennsylvania: Trump vs. Harris | RealClearPolling

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2024 North Carolina: Trump vs. Harris | RealClearPolling

2024 North Carolina: Trump vs. Harris | RealClearPolling

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2024 Georgia: Trump vs. Harris | RealClearPolling

2024 Georgia: Trump vs. Harris | RealClearPolling

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2024 Electoral College: No Toss-Up States | RealClearPolling

2024 Electoral College: No Toss-Up States

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[WyattEarp]

If Trump collapses from a stroke or a coronary in early September, won't the same situation propel JD Vance into the presidential nomination?

First, I suspect Vance would be subject to criticism of not being the people's choice. Probably from you in fact.

More importantly, your hypothetical relies on many of us suspending our belief that Biden was cognitively impaired months prior to the June debate. You and others can believe time caught up with Biden in June. Republicans will continuously remind voters of what appeared to be an effort from the Biden team and many Democratic leaders to conceal this decline.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

If Trump collapses from a stroke or a coronary in early September

You're quietly hoping for that, arent you??

 

[WyattEarp]

Latest battleground polls have Trump beating Harris in all States except for Michigan

2024 Arizona: Trump vs. Harris | RealClearPolling

2024 Arizona: Trump vs. Harris | RealClearPolling

www.realclearpolling.com

2024 Nevada: Trump vs. Harris | RealClearPolling

2024 Nevada: Trump vs. Harris | RealClearPolling

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2024 Wisconsin: Trump vs. Harris | RealClearPolling

2024 Wisconsin: Trump vs. Harris | RealClearPolling

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2024 Pennsylvania: Trump vs. Harris | RealClearPolling

2024 Pennsylvania: Trump vs. Harris | RealClearPolling

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2024 North Carolina: Trump vs. Harris | RealClearPolling

2024 North Carolina: Trump vs. Harris | RealClearPolling

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2024 Georgia: Trump vs. Harris | RealClearPolling

2024 Georgia: Trump vs. Harris | RealClearPolling

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Electoral map

2024 Electoral College: No Toss-Up States | RealClearPolling

2024 Electoral College: No Toss-Up States

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Kamala has so much work to do that I wouldn't give any poll much credence. The Trump campaign also has to find its footing post-Biden. I wouldn't start paying attention until mid-September.

 

[mitchell76]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1820532190792630625

 

[mandrill]

First, I suspect Vance would be subject to criticism of not being the people's choice. Probably from you in fact.

I would support a Vance candidacy with my dying breath. A man that esteemed and accomplished deserves a chance to hump the WH couches.

More importantly, your hypothetical relies on many of us suspending our belief that Biden was cognitively impaired months prior to the June debate. You and others can believe time caught up with Biden in June. Republicans will continuously remind voters of what appeared to be an effort from the Biden team and many Democratic leaders to conceal this decline.

I'm sure Biden was a senile as Methuselah throughout the last year or so of his tenure. And it's not the place of his staffers to act as whistleblowers and Joe himself likely doesn't realize how much he has deteriorated.

Trump's senile too.

So you're 0 for 2, Earp.

 

[mitchell76]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1820470385495695443

 

[mitchell76]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1820510708926177681

 

[mitchell76]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1820474990036504784

Of course there is a massive market downturn. Kamala is even worse than Crooked Joe. Markets will NEVER accept the Radical Left Lunatic that DESTROYED San Francisco and California, as a whole. Next move, THE GREAT DEPRESSION OF 2024! You can’t play games with MARKETS. KAMALA CRASH!!! Donald Trump Truth Social 09:45 AM EST 08/05/24

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

Kamala has so much work to do that I wouldn't give any poll much credence. The Trump campaign also has to find its footing post-Biden. I wouldn't start paying attention until mid-September

Agreed, but @squeezer seems to think Kamaltoe has this election already wrapped, so I have to bring him back down to reality

 

[WyattEarp]

I would support a Vance candidacy with my dying breath. A man that esteemed and accomplished deserves a chance to hump the WH couches.

I'm sure Biden was a senile as Methuselah throughout the last year or so of his tenure. And it's not the place of his staffers to act as whistleblowers and Joe himself likely doesn't realize how much he has deteriorated.

Trump's senile too.

So you're 0 for 2, Earp.

I think you're lost somewhere in this conversation. I'm just explaining to you how some will perceive the nomination of Kamala Harris and how it's fair to raise this point. Your hypothetical is a reasonable point, but Kamala's "coronation" is the reality.

Are you keeping a lifetime scoring tab between us? In fairness, could you let me know when the conversation turns to competitive scoring? Thanks.

 

[mandrill]

I think you're lost somewhere in this conversation. I'm just explaining to you how some will perceive the nomination of Kamala Harris and how it's fair to raise this point. Your hypothetical is a reasonable point, but Kamala's "coronation" is the reality.

Are you keeping a lifetime scoring tab between us? In fairness, could you let me know when the conversation turns to competitive scoring? Thanks.

No. But you made 2 off base assumptions as to how I perceived the issues around the nomination of Harris and Biden dropping out and I corrected them.

Let me toss something out there. It's a Republican "thing" to constantly cast aspersion at the Dems. That said, who do you think should have "blown the whistle" on Biden's cognitive decline before his disastrous debate?.... One of his junior or mid level staffers?... How far do you think that would have gone?..... Probably nowhere, right? It would simply have cost the staffer his / her career.

Someone more senior?..... Wouldn't the same issues of loyalty and "teamplay" be raised?... Again the complaint would have gone nowhere and the complainant's career would have been destroyed.

You think anyone with a still-viable career in the GOP is going to whistle-blow that Trump's as senile as a 20 year old blind and deaf mutt-bitch lying on the rug by the door?... They're not going to do that either for the same reason.

So spare me the finger-pointing.