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Let's review the many ways that Groggy and Gryfin have tried to defend Osama Hamdan's Jew hatred, with comments in parentheses on how intelligent adults should view their points.

According to G + G:

-- CNN mistranslated Hamdan's comments (A baseless assertion -- there is no evidence of that).

-- The clip that aired on CNN was doctored (A baseless assertion -- there is no evidence of that. In fact, it is clear the clip has not been altered).

-- CNN took the quote "out of context" (A baseless assertion -- there is no evidence of that).

-- The clip was "edited" to remove sentences before and after the four sentences. According to G + G, those allegedly removed sentences would change the meaning of the blood libel (A baseless assertion -- there is no evidence of that).

-- We don't know what question was asked (Not true, if we are to believe Osama Hamdan. He told Wolf Blitzer he was asked to respond to comments made by Israeli MP Moshe Feiglin).

-- We don't know the precise wording of the question that was asked (Irrelevant. See post #538).

-- We haven't seen the entire Al-Quds TV interview, so we can't understand what Hamdan's comments meant (Idiotic. G + G may think the meaning was unclear. Wolf Blitzer, the New York Times, and pretty much everyone else feel the meaning was quite clear).

-- Given the things that Moshe Feiglin reportedly said, Hamdan's blood libel is entirely understandable (A contradiction of all of the above points, since this one seems to concede that Hamdan probably did state the blood libel).

With no evidence to support any of their assertions, G + G resort to truther-style idiocy. For example, since the clip came from what was likely a longer interview, G + G falsely describe it as "edited," implying it was doctored in some way (it wasn't).

G + G will consider every possibility except the truth -- that Hamas is driven by a pathological hatred of Jews, and that its leaders stir up Jew hatred through statements such as the blood libel made by Osama Hamdan.
 

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Ok, tell you what.
If you agree that moviefan is a racist and that you think Feiglin's plan for annexing Gaza includes concentration camps then we can also agree that the Hamdan quote is fair.
They are all of the same ilk.
Nope. You are LYING. You are a pathological lying sack of shit. CNN did NOT say that Feiglin planned concentration camps, toy are just blatantly lying about that. They DID fact check Hamdan's quote.

Hamdan was not taken out of context the way you are taking MF out of context.

Stop lying
 

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Let's review the many ways that Groggy and Gryfin have tried to defend Osama Hamdan's Jew hatred, with comments in parentheses on how intelligent adults should view their points.

According to G + G:

-- The clip was "edited" to remove sentences before and after the four sentences.
That is the only one of those claims that is close to what we are saying.

The claim is that the clip came from MEMRI, an Israeli outfit that specializes in false translations, misquotes and comments taken out of context. An organization that has been caught fabricating quotes numerous times. The author of the quote, Hamdan, states clearly in the interview that the comments were taken out of context.

On top of that, you continue to try to argue that because you think Hamdan is racist, based on the quote out of context by MEMRI, that therefore all of Hamas is racist. A fallacy of logic at the level of about a 4 year old.

And on top of that, you continue to be more concerned about a possible racist comment then a plan to annex Gaza by force and put its surviving residents in concentration camps by a member of the Israeli government.

In short, you are acting like a racist, trying to foment hate.

These quotes are just as legit, since they are taken in the same form as the MEMRI quote, as your favoured quote out of context.


I'm a racist, I'll be happy to appear and to set the record straight.
Quote Originally Posted by fuji
Blitzer called it concentration camps.
 

groggy

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Nope. You are LYING. You are a pathological lying sack of shit. CNN did NOT say that Feiglin planned concentration camps, toy are just blatantly lying about that. They DID fact check Hamdan's quote.

Hamdan was not taken out of context the way you are taking MF out of context.

Stop lying

Stop whining, if you are going to continue to use quotes out of context you're going to have to live with life in the pig pen.



Quote Originally Posted by fuji
Blitzer called it concentration camps.
 

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You can't brush off the fact that CNN fact checked the quote. It is not out is context, liar. Whenever you accuse someone is "whining" it is because they have pointed out facts you cannot tolerate.
 

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That is the only one of those claims that is close to what we are saying.
Actually, they were all accurate descriptions of what you and Gryfin have been alleging.

Given how ludicrous your points have been, I'm not surprised that you're now trying to back away from almost all of them.

By the way, you still haven't produced any evidence that the quotes were taken out of context. In fact, you don't have any evidence, which makes one wonder why you keep repeating something that is completely baseless.
 

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Actually, they were all accurate descriptions of what you and Gryfin have been alleging.
True, these quotes do show the accuracy of our claims.

I'm a racist, I'll be happy to appear and to set the record straight.
Quote Originally Posted by fuji
Blitzer called it concentration camps.

And of course you are still claiming that context doesn't matter.
 

fuji

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I am glad you finally admit these quotes are not taken out of context.
Those quotes are taken out of context and are examples of your mindless dishonesty and constant blatant lying.

Hamdan was not taken out of context. We know he was accurately quoted because CNN fact checked that quote.
 

groggy

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Those quotes are taken out of context and are examples of your mindless dishonesty and constant blatant lying.

Hamdan was not taken out of context.

Hamdan says he was taken out of context by Israeli propagandists, MEMRI, but fuji calls this fair.
Fuji says he was taken out of context here but calls this unfair.

Pot, here's your kettle:


I'm a racist, I'll be happy to appear and to set the record straight.
Quote Originally Posted by fuji
Blitzer called it concentration camps.
 

Moviefan-2

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Hamdan says he was taken out of context by Israeli propagandists, MEMRI, but fuji calls this fair.
Hamdan told CNN the context was that he was responding to a question about Israeli MP Moshe Feiglin's comments.

More importantly, Hamdan was given more than six minutes of air time on CNN to set the record straight as Wolf Blitzer tried to get Hamdan to reject the blood libel. Hamdan refused.
 

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Why are you wasting your time trying to convince fuji. Wouldn't your time be better s[pent trying to convince CNN or any of the other news gathering agencies or networks to retract or clarify their stories.

You are way too funny. Really quite desperate, silly and pathetic and blinded by your antisemitism, but always a funny clown, good for an afternoon laugh. Keep up the good work.
Have you decided to atone for your championing of Palestinians ethnic cleansing? Isn't that what this weekend was for you?

Actually, it's Israel's Jews that are being the fed the dream of pushing Palestinians into the sea. The fantasy of a Jewish only Israel is the wet dream of Zionism. And they've been trying to do it for more than 50 years.
LOL. Trying? You mean succeeding. You are a funny clown. Always pathetic and increasingly desperate and silly. Keep up the good work.
 

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If Wolf Blitzer ever invites me to appear on the Situation Room to address allegations that I'm a racist, I'll be happy to appear and to set the record straight.

In the meantime, why don't you contact Mr. Blitzer and let him know about your conspiracy theories. Be sure to let us know how it works out.
Alleges? We have you saying it:

Jews slaughtered Christians in order to use their blood for Passover
Why can't you have the courage to acknowledge you said it?
 

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Another evasion.

Hamdan said the context was that he was asked to respond to Israeli MP Moshe Feiglin's comments.

Do you believe Hamdan's account? Yes or no.
Hamdan's account is that it was edited by MEMRI. MEMRI has a long history of editing comments and fabricating quotes. Why do you think that MEMRI won't release the full tape and decided not to show anything before or after the edited clip?
 

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No serious news organization would buy their conspiracy-theory nonsense.

Wolf Blitzer certainly wasn't having any of it.
Since when is an edited tape a conspiracy theory? Everyone watching knows that the tape gives the viewer absolutely no idea what was being asked or said before the edited tape.

You seem to forget that we've got you saying the same thing.
 

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Which proves he is not only a racist but also a liar, since CNN has verified it.

Stop sniveling.
Is CNN claiming this is the whole tape and nothing was said before and no question was asked?
 

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Is CNN claiming this is the whole tape and nothing was said before and no question was asked?
CNN claims the quote is accurate. I trust them to fact check properly and your questioning whether they know how to do that is just pathetic sniveling.
 
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