Evasion? We are still waiting for you to answer the two questions that were posed to you regarding the Hamas Charter. Remember how you were forced to concede the multiple references to the racist and supremacist ideology of zionism?
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CNN and the New York Times are not run by MEMRI.
In any event, I say the same thing to you that I said to Gryfin: Try reading Hamas' charter. You won't like what you find, but at least you'll know what it is you're defending.
But MEMRI is the only source in both cases for the MEMRI edited 47 second tape. You can be honest about that, can't you?
When anti Palestinian Israel kills 400 Palestinian children, blackmails gay and sick Palestinians, and fires 60,000 shells into Gaza, then the Hasbara evaporates and the world knows they are the same freedom fighters they would be.What Hamas is actually about is terrorism. Blowing up buses and restaurants, firing rockets at civilians, kidnappings, murders. They are not remotely interested in things like equality, or dignity, or international law -- Hamas are dedicated to the violation of international law and the persecution of Jews.
Once again, you confirm that you don't know what the word "concede" means.Remember how you were forced to concede the multiple references to the racist and supremacist ideology of zionism?
Yes, I acknowledged there were references to "Zionism" (which Hamas defines as world domination by the evil Jews) and to the anti-Semitic hoax, the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.
Here is Article 22 and its description of "Zionist interests":
"For a long time, the enemies have been planning, skillfully and with precision, for the achievement of what they have attained. They took into consideration the causes affecting the current of events. They strived to amass great and substantive material wealth which they devoted to the realisation of their dream. With their money, they took control of the world media, news agencies, the press, publishing houses, broadcasting stations, and others. With their money they stirred revolutions in various parts of the world with the purpose of achieving their interests and reaping the fruit therein. They were behind the French Revolution, the Communist revolution and most of the revolutions we heard and hear about, here and there. With their money they formed secret societies, such as Freemasons, Rotary Clubs, the Lions and others in different parts of the world for the purpose of sabotaging societies and achieving Zionist interests. With their money they were able to control imperialistic countries and instigate them to colonize many countries in order to enable them to exploit their resources and spread corruption there.
You may speak as much as you want about regional and world wars. They were behind World War I, when they were able to destroy the Islamic Caliphate, making financial gains and controlling resources. They obtained the Balfour Declaration, formed the League of Nations through which they could rule the world. They were behind World War II, through which they made huge financial gains by trading in armaments, and paved the way for the establishment of their state. It was they who instigated the replacement of the League of Nations with the United Nations and the Security Council to enable them to rule the world through them. There is no war going on anywhere, without having their finger in it."
http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/hamas.asp
The references to "Zionism" (world domination, according to Hamas) and the Protocols of the Elders of Zion are just part of the repeated references to Hamas' pathological hatred of the Jews for being Jewish, and to Hamas' commitment to kill the Jews.
No, actually, CNN confirmed the translation is accurate.But MEMRI is the only source in both cases for the MEMRI edited 47 second tape. You can be honest about that, can't you?
Furthermore, while it is a clip from a longer interview, your use of the word "edited" is extremely misleading. The clip itself has no jump cuts, no dissolves, no cutaway shots, and the video and audio are in synch. The clip has not been edited or doctored. Hamdan clearly did state the blood libel, and refused to retract it when given the opportunity.
Since you have brought this up again, perhaps it's time for you to answer the question: Do you think Osama Hamdan's assertion that Jews slaughtered Christians in order to use their blood for Passover is antisemitic?
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No, CNN fact checkers are also the source.But MEMRI is the only source in both cases for the MEMRI edited 47 second tape. You can be honest about that, can't you?
The children are dead because of Hamas war crime.When anti Palestinian Israel kills 400 Palestinian children, blackmails gay and sick Palestinians, and fires 60,000 shells into Gaza, then the Hasbara evaporates and the world knows they are the same freedom fighters they would be.
Thank you for conceding that Hamdan was angry over political policy.Once again, you confirm that you don't know what the word "concede" means.
Yes, I acknowledged there were references to "Zionism"
Now, do you think the Bedouin are going to be angry at the ongoing ethnic cleansing from their native homes or are you going to claim that they are also 'racisit'?
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/n...i-plans-for-ethnic-cleansing-in-the-west-bank42 NGOs urge world leaders to stop Israeli plans for ethnic cleansing in the West Bank
Are you going to have to go and search MEMRI for some mistranslations from Bedouins now?
Perhaps -- although the fact that Hamdan apparently made his "angry" comments three days before the Israeli MP's statement was posted raises some interesting questions about Hamdan's ability to travel through time.Thank you for conceding that Hamdan was angry over political policy.
It doesn't matter, though.
Whatever the motivation, Hamdan's blood libel confirmed that Hamas is driven by a pathological hatred of the Jews for being Jewish.
Perhaps ....
Whatever the motivation, Hamdan's statement confirmed that Hamas is driven by a pathological hatred of the Jews for being Jewish.
So you concede Hamdan was angry about politics and then go back to your MEMRI claims anyways?
You conceded you lost the argument then pulled a fuji by claiming you didn't?
You're turning into a fuji clown troll.
He conceded no such thing. He agreed that there were references to Zionism ALONG WITH the blatantly racist statements.So you concede Hamdan was angry about politics and then go back to your MEMRI claims anyways?
Thank you for confirming my statement.He conceded no such thing. He agreed that there were references to Zionism
You are an illiterate imbecile. Hamdan's comment was blatant and vile racism. That he also said other things in addition to the blatantly racist stuff is irrelevantThank you for confirming my statement.
I lost the argument?You conceded you lost the argument then pulled a fuji by claiming you didn't?
So you're saying that you think it is a valid political statement to claim that Jews slaughter Christians in order to use their blood for Passover.
(I notice, by the way, that you haven't explained how Mr. Hamdan mastered the art of time travel).
Discussing a member of the Israeli government's plan for concentration camps was 'blatant and vile racisim'?You are an illiterate imbecile. Hamdan's comment was blatant and vile racism. That he also said other things in addition to the blatantly racist stuff is irrelevant
Or are you back trying to use those discredited words of MEMRI again?
Why are so against free speech, democracy and arguments against heinous policies?
You are attacking those who are offended by plans for concentration camps and apartheid.
Why do you argue so strongly to defend those?
Hamdan said:Discussing a member of the Israeli government's plan for concentration camps....
-- The Jews slaughter Christians in order to use their blood for Passover.
-- That it is something his TV audience would "all remember".
-- That it is "a fact".
-- That it has been confirmed in the Jews' own books and by history.
http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2014/...t-history-of-a-dangerous-myth/comment-page-3/
Never mind that Hamdan appears to have made his comments three days before the Israeli MP's comments were posted (a point you refuse to address).
You're saying Hamdan's blood libel meets your definition of "discussing a member of the Israeli government's plan for concentration camps"?
Hamdan said:
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You're saying Hamdan's blood libel meets your definition of "discussing a member of the Israeli government's plan for concentration camps"?
You keep referring to the mistranslation by MEMRI as Hamdan's words.
Hamdan confirmed that they weren't his words and stated he was offended by a member of Israel's government calling for concentration camps.
Why do you only accept what MEMRI claims as the truth and not the words Hamdan clearly states on the interview?
Why do you continue to refuse to accept that he was angry about a call for concentration camps and the annexing of Gaza?
Are you such a colonial racist that you won't accept the words of Palestinians?
Absolutely, you are blatantly lying and doing it in order to incite racial hate. You are vile and subhuman, that is KKK level racism. He never said any such thing. You have repeatedly failed to produce any statement from him, and by your own definition of concentration camp his proposal isn't even remotely close.Discussing a member of the Israeli government's plan for concentration camps was 'blatant and vile racisim'?
The translation and quote were verified by CNN.Or are you back trying to use those discredited words of MEMRI again?
Absolutely, you are blatantly lying and doing it in order to incite racial hate. You are vile and subhuman, that is KKK level racism. He never said any such thing. You have repeatedly failed to produce any statement from him, and by your own definition of concentration camp his proposal isn't even remotely close.
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I'm speaking out about racism, you are trying to continue it.
If you want kkk level racism, this is what you should be offended by:
http://www.haaretz.com/news/national/.premium-1.605234Right-wing demonstrators in Tel Aviv wore neo-Nazi shirts
Not only did the demonstrators beat leftists, they wore 'Good night left side' T-shirts, photographs show.
What part of 'never again' do you not understand?
