Forum Ontario Poll: 47% NDP, 33% PC, 14% Liberals
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I would disagree. In fact I would argue the more government there is the more power becomes concentrated at the top. And the higher the dependence upon government by the populace.
Doug Ford will release his budget before the election ... He will shows how how he will balance the budget.
Interest are going up ... How are you balance budget ... If you keep spending like the liberal & NDP.
NDP couldn't even cost out their election budget correct..lol !! They off by a more then a billion dollar !!! What a joke!!
NDP leader Andrea Horwath admits party made a $1.4 billion costing mistake!!!
http://nationalpost.com/news/ontari...-to-admit-to-annual-1-4-billion-costing-error
Your ignorant fool.. I understand climate change ...
Here are the studies disapproved man made climate change.
More Than 1000 International Scientists Dissent Over Man-Made Global Warming Claims
Challenge UN IPCC
anelMore than 1,000 dissenting scientists (updates previous 700 scientist report) from around the globe have now challenged man-made global warming claims made by the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) and former Vice President Al Gore. This new 2010 321-page Climate Depot Special Report — updated from the 2007 groundbreaking U.S. Senate Report of over 400 scientists who voiced skepticism about the so-called global warming “consensus” — features the skeptical voices of over 1,000 international scientists, including many current and former UN IPCC scientists, who have now turned against the UN IPCC. This updated 2010 report includes a dramatic increase of over 300 additional (and growing) scientists and climate researchers since the last update in March 2009. This report’s release coincides with the 2010 UN global warming summit in being held in Cancun.
The more than 300 additional scientists added to this report since March 2009 (21 months ago), represents an average of nearly four skeptical scientists a week speaking out publicly. The well over 1,000 dissenting scientists are almost 20 times the number of UN scientists (52) who authored the media-hyped IPCC 2007 Summary for Policymakers.
The chorus of skeptical scientific voices grew louder in 2010 as the Climategate scandal — which involved the upper echelon of UN IPCC scientists — detonated upon on the international climate movement. “I view Climategate as science fraud, pure and simple,” said noted Princeton Physicist Dr. Robert Austin shortly after the scandal broke. Climategate prompted UN IPCC scientists to turn on each other. UN IPCC scientist Eduardo Zorita publicly declared that his Climategate colleagues Michael Mann and Phil Jones “should be barred from the IPCC process…They are not credible anymore.”
Zorita also noted how insular the IPCC science had become. “By writing these lines I will just probably achieve that a few of my future studies will, again, not see the light of publication,” Zorita wrote. A UN lead author Richard Tol grew disillusioned with the IPCC and lamented that it had been “captured” and demanded that “the Chair of IPCC and the Chairs of the IPCC Working Groups should be removed.” Tol also publicly called for the “suspension” of IPCC Process in 2010 after being invited by the UN to participate as lead author again in the next IPCC Report. [Note: Zorita and Tol are not included in the count of dissenting scientists in this report.]
Other UN scientists were more blunt. A South African UN scientist declared the UN IPCC a “worthless carcass” and noted IPCC chair Pachauri is in “disgrace”. He also explained that the “fraudulent science continues to be exposed.” Alexander, a former member of the UN Scientific and Technical Committee on Natural Disasters harshly critiqued the UN. “‘I was subjected to vilification tactics at the time. I persisted. Now, at long last, my persistence has been rewarded…There is no believable evidence to support [the IPCC] claims. I rest my case!” See: S. African UN Scientist Calls it! ‘Climate change – RIP: Cause of Death: No scientifically believable evidence…Deliberate manipulation to suit political objectives’ [Also see: New Report: UN Scientists Speak Out On Global Warming -- As Skeptics!] Geologist Dr. Don Easterbrook, a professor of geology at Western Washington University, summed up the scandal on December 3, 2010: “The corruption within the IPCC revealed by the Climategate scandal, the doctoring of data and the refusal to admit mistakes have so severely tainted the IPCC that it is no longer a credible agency.”
Selected Highlights of the Updated 2010 Report featuring over 1,000 international scientists dissenting from man-made climate fears:
“We’re not scientifically there yet. Despite what you may have heard in the media, there is nothing like a consensus of scientific opinion that this is a problem. Because there is natural variability in the weather, you cannot statistically know for another 150 years.”
— UN IPCC’s Tom Tripp, a member of the UN IPCC since 2004 and listed as one of the lead authors and serves as the Director of Technical Services & Development for U.S. Magnesium.
“Any reasonable scientific analysis must conclude the basic theory wrong!!” — NASA Scientist Dr. Leonard Weinstein who worked 35 years at the NASA Langley Research Center and finished his career there as a Senior Research Scientist. Weinstein is presently a Senior Research Fellow at the National Institute of Aerospace.
“Please remain calm: The Earth will heal itself — Climate is beyond our power to control…Earth doesn’t care about governments or their legislation. You can’t find much actual global warming in present-day weather observations. Climate change is a matter of geologic time, something that the earth routinely does on its own without asking anyone’s permission or explaining itself.”
— Nobel Prize-Winning Stanford University Physicist Dr. Robert B. Laughlin, who won the Nobel Prize for physics in 1998, and was formerly a research scientist at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory.
“In essence, the jig is up. The whole thing is a fraud. And even the fraudsters that fudged data are admitting to temperature history that they used to say didn’t happen…Perhaps what has doomed the Climategate fraudsters the most was their brazenness in fudging the data”
— Dr. Christopher J. Kobus, Associate Professor of Mechanical Engineering at Oakland University, specializes in alternative energy, thermal transport phenomena, two-phase flow and fluid and thermal energy systems.
“The energy mankind generates is so small compared to that overall energy budget that it simply cannot affect the climate…The planet’s climate is doing its own thing, but we cannot pinpoint significant trends in changes to it because it dates back millions of years while the study of it began only recently. We are children of the Sun; we simply lack data to draw the proper conclusions.”
— Russian Scientist Dr. Anatoly Levitin, the head of geomagnetic variations laboratory at the Institute of Terrestrial Magnetism, Ionosphere and Radiowave Propagation of the Russian Academy of Sciences.
“Hundreds of billion dollars have been wasted with the attempt of imposing a Anthropogenic Global Warming (AGW) theory that is not supported by physical world evidences…AGW has been forcefully imposed by means of a barrage of scare stories and indoctrination that begins in the elementary school textbooks.”
— Brazilian Geologist Geraldo Luís Lino, who authored the 2009 book “The Global Warming Fraud: How a Natural Phenomenon Was Converted into a False World Emergency.”
“I am an environmentalist,” but “I must disagree with Mr. Gore” — Chemistry Professor Dr. Mary Mumper, the chair of the Chemistry Department at Frostburg State University in Maryland, during her presentation titled “Anthropogenic Carbon Dioxide and Global Warming, the Skeptic’s View.”
“I am ashamed of what climate science has become today.” The science “community is relying on an inadequate model to blame CO2 and innocent citizens for global warming in order to generate funding and to gain attention. If this is what ‘science’ has become today, I, as a scientist, am ashamed.”
— Research Chemist William C. Gilbert published a study in August 2010 in the journal Energy & Environment titled “The thermodynamic relationship between surface temperature and water vapor concentration in the troposphere” and he published a paper in August 2009 titled “Atmospheric Temperature Distribution in a Gravitational Field.” [Update December 9, 2010]
“The dysfunctional nature of the climate sciences is nothing short of a scandal. Science is too important for our society to be misused in the way it has been done within the Climate Science Community.” The global warming establishment “has actively suppressed research results presented by researchers that do not comply with the dogma of the IPCC.”
— Swedish Climatologist Dr. Hans Jelbring, of the Paleogeophysics & Geodynamics Unit at Stockholm University. [Updated December 9, 2010. Corrects Jelbring's quote.]
“Those who call themselves ‘Green planet advocates’ should be arguing for a CO2- fertilized atmosphere, not a CO2-starved atmosphere…Diversity increases when the planet was warm AND had high CO2 atmospheric content…Al Gore’s personal behavior supports a green planet – his enormous energy use with his 4 homes and his bizjet, does indeed help make the planet greener. Kudos, Al for doing your part to save the planet.”
— Renowned engineer and aviation/space pioneer Burt Rutan, who was named “100 most influential people in the world, 2004″ by Time Magazine and Newsweek called him “the man responsible for more innovations in modern aviation than any living engineer.”
“Global warming is the central tenet of this new belief system in much the same way that the Resurrection is the central tenet of Christianity. Al Gore has taken a role corresponding to that of St Paul in proselytizing the new faith…My skepticism about AGW arises from the fact that as a physicist who has worked in closely related areas, I know how poor the underlying science is. In effect the scientific method has been abandoned in this field.”
— Atmospheric Physicist Dr. John Reid, who worked with Australia’s CSIRO’s (Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organization) Division of Oceanography and worked in surface gravity waves (ocean waves) research.
“We maintain there is no reason whatsoever to worry about man-made climate change, because there is no evidence whatsoever that such a thing is happening.” — Greek Earth scientists Antonis Christofides and Nikos Mamassis of the National Technical University of Athens’ Department of Water Resources and Environmental Engineering.
“There are clear cycles during which both temperature and salinity rise and fall. These cycles are related to solar activity…In my opinion and that of our institute, the problems connected to the current stage of warming are being exaggerated. What we are dealing with is not a global warming of the atmosphere or of the oceans.”
— Biologist Pavel Makarevich of the Biological Institute of the Russian Academy of Sciences.
“Because the greenhouse effect is temporary rather than permanent, predictions of significant global warming in the 21st century by IPCC are not supported by the data.” — Hebrew University Professor Dr. Michael Beenstock an honorary fellow with Institute for Economic Affairs who published a study challenging man-made global warming claims titled “Polynomial Cointegration Tests of the Anthropogenic Theory of Global Warming.”
“The whole idea of anthropogenic global warming is completely unfounded. There appears to have been money gained by Michael Mann, Al Gore and UN IPCC’s Rajendra Pachauri as a consequence of this deception, so it’s fraud.” — South African astrophysicist Hilton Ratcliffe, a member of the Astronomical Society of Southern Africa (ASSA) and the Astronomical Society of the Pacific and a Fellow of the British Institute of Physics.
PS. How you think NDP or liberal going pay for all those spending ( free stuff, free pharmacare, Ontario sanctuary city, free tuition, free dental care, free universal basic income, free more raises for teachers & unions, everthing is fucking free!!) ?
They will get new revenue tools by Cap & Trade ... Aka Carbon Tax!!
^Don’t forget the URL your kooky pseudoscience came from (in 2010):
http://www.climatedepot.com/2010/12/08/special-report-more-than-1000-international-scientists-dissent-over-manmade-global-warming-claims-challenge-un-ipcc-gore-2/
Can this PLEASE not turn into another one of your truther website cut and dump threads? There are plenty of threads for us to “learn” about global warming already on here.
http://www.climatedepot.com/2010/12/08/special-report-more-than-1000-international-scientists-dissent-over-manmade-global-warming-claims-challenge-un-ipcc-gore-2/
Can this PLEASE not turn into another one of your truther website cut and dump threads? There are plenty of threads for us to “learn” about global warming already on here.
I will post whatever I like to post . Can you please STF with your bullshit Manmade climate change!!
More proof about fraudulent man made climate change
https://niclewis.files.wordpress.com/2018/04/lewis_and_curry_jcli-d-17-0667_accepted.pdf
PS If you criticize & call me names....because of political opinion on man made climate change .. I will defend by self by posting rebuttal to your flaw argument in climate change.
I will dump more stuff on man climate change on to this thread if you call me ignorant and criticisms on man climate change.
What is the left's infatuation with ignorance and apathy? And you have the gall to call us deniers. FFS.
Great.
Here’s a link to a credible publication that debunks Nic Lewis’ BS:
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-to-misinterpret-climate-change-research/
More proof on man made climate BULSHIT !
https://www.nationalreview.com/2015/10/climate-change-no-its-not-97-percent-consensus-ian-tuttle/
http://www.pbl.nl/sites/default/fil...ence-survey-questions-and-responses_01731.pdf
PS You need cap & trade to support spending & need new revenue tools!! Man made climate change is nothing but a fucking tax grab!
Ms. Horwath’s party is so beholden to the unions that it blocked a legislated settlement to the strike at York University, which has dragged on for months and blighted the lives of many of the 50,000 students there. The villain in the York strike is one rogue CUPE local that has taken the whole place hostage. Ms. Horwath also won the teachers’ union endorsement by promising to scrap the province’s standardized student-testing system, which is widely popular with parents.
Ms. Horwath points out that unlike Mr. Ford, the NDP’s economic plan is fully costed and adds up. This is true. It adds up to spending vast amounts of money we don’t have on stuff we can’t afford, such as hundreds of thousands of publicly subsidized new child-care spaces. There’s also a plan to convert all student debt into grants. To pay for these schemes, the party plans to run gigantic deficits for years and years, until Tinker Bell arrives with magic bags of money. (Embarrassingly – speaking of math – it turns out that the NDP mistakenly put several billion dollars on the wrong side of the ledger, which means the hole is that much deeper.)
A couple of years from now, I suspect that we’ll be looking back on this election and wondering what was so horrible about Kathleen Wynne’s government after all.
The NDP also wants to turn Ontario into Canada’s first “sanctuary province“ so that it can make local services accessible to all residents, “regardless of their immigration status.” There’s no word on where our future asylum claimants, who are already flooding Toronto’s shelter system, might be housed.
I am actually old enough to remember the last time the NDP was in power in Ontario. It was chaos. Five years of NDP rule led inexorably to Mike Harris, proving that our system has a remarkable ability to achieve homeostasis once you average it all out.
Ms. Horwath points out that unlike Mr. Ford, the NDP’s economic plan is fully costed and adds up. This is true. It adds up to spending vast amounts of money we don’t have on stuff we can’t afford, such as hundreds of thousands of publicly subsidized new child-care spaces. There’s also a plan to convert all student debt into grants. To pay for these schemes, the party plans to run gigantic deficits for years and years, until Tinker Bell arrives with magic bags of money. (Embarrassingly – speaking of math – it turns out that the NDP mistakenly put several billion dollars on the wrong side of the ledger, which means the hole is that much deeper.)
A couple of years from now, I suspect that we’ll be looking back on this election and wondering what was so horrible about Kathleen Wynne’s government after all.
The NDP also wants to turn Ontario into Canada’s first “sanctuary province“ so that it can make local services accessible to all residents, “regardless of their immigration status.” There’s no word on where our future asylum claimants, who are already flooding Toronto’s shelter system, might be housed.
I am actually old enough to remember the last time the NDP was in power in Ontario. It was chaos. Five years of NDP rule led inexorably to Mike Harris, proving that our system has a remarkable ability to achieve homeostasis once you average it all out.
Homeostasis? If Harris's lurchings were anything like a "… self-regulating process by which biological systems tend to maintain stability while adjusting to conditions that are optimal for survival.", then his party wouldn't have been booted into the wilderness where it's wandered ever since. If ever Ontario was led by a pugnacious zealot determined to reverse history and upset overall stability to serve his personal ideology, it was the Duffer.
Or were you trying to say he was just the corrective to Rae's socialism, and once those two zealots were averaged out, the Liberals were the comfy, stable homeostasis that's optimal for everyone's survival?
Re: Harris. People forget that he was basically the default winner after the Miller/Grossman debacles and when the PC’s were reduced to third party status. Andy Brandt was interim leader after Grossman resigned Harris became House leader (only 19 MPP’s) and the leadership race was reduced to a pathetic gathering. Harris was a lightweight and had a reputation as being dumber than a sack of hammers. But he won, latched onto a genius political slogan and the rest is history. Btw, the reputation of Harris was well earned.
His son is running in this election, so we might have another Mike Harris (Jr) in office. Of course, this assumes his candidacy doesn’t blow up. He lost the nomination in Waterloo (where he lives) so was appointed by surprise by Doug Ford to run in Kitchener-Conastoga. And in a bizarre twist to the story that can only belong to the OPC, Mike Harris (jr) is replacing the former candidate, Mike Harris, who had to resign because of inappropriate text messages. Maybe Ford thought they could save money by re-using all the election signs and campaign literature??
His son is running in this election, so we might have another Mike Harris (Jr) in office. Of course, this assumes his candidacy doesn’t blow up. He lost the nomination in Waterloo (where he lives) so was appointed by surprise by Doug Ford to run in Kitchener-Conastoga. And in a bizarre twist to the story that can only belong to the OPC, Mike Harris (jr) is replacing the former candidate, Mike Harris, who had to resign because of inappropriate text messages. Maybe Ford thought they could save money by re-using all the election signs and campaign literature??
You certainly throw around the words dumb, dimwitted, idiot, uneducated, etc. to characterize others. I guess you must be another Einstein. Oh wait, you probably think he was stupid too.
“throw around”?? On the contrary, my use is usually pretty specific. Do you want to debate Harris’ intellect? He was successful as a politician who benefited from political circumstance. But he WAS dumber than a sack of hammers. Maybe that was his appeal? It does seem to sell really well to the dimwitted who pass themselves off as “Conservatives” these days. Oops, did I offend you, again?
Dicky, wtf??!!
At least, Essguy has some credible insider knowledge of these events and personalities, which you can either accept or reject.
Your own posts are simply picking fights with whoever you dislike at any particular time and generalizing about whatever with no proof or evidence. If you don't think Harris was an idiot, discuss the issue and provide some evidence. People can then think about it and discuss it.
Doesn't offend me when I consider the source. And by the way aren't you a member of the Conservative party? According to you that makes you dimwitted as well.
Dickie: You need to think of a Venn diagram. One circle is Conservative members, another circle is “Dimwits”. There is an overlap and this overlap has grown in the past decade. In fact, I’m guessing it really expanded around the time you started calling yourself a “Conservative”.
Pretty clearly that principled, evidence-driven debate I requested from you never quite materialized, did it?
Uh-oh..... Time for Dicky to be rude to us again.
You got hit pretty good, Dicky. Essguy is a funny dude.
At least have the grace to acknowledge it and tell him that he's funny.
