Former Trump administration official Kellyanne Conway registers as lobbyist for Ukrainian billionaire with past ties to Trump

bver_hunter

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The lawsuit was rejected because they admitted it court they rigged it.

The whole point was that small donors put together a class action lawsuit to get their money back on the premise the DNC lied about the fair and open primary. The only way to stop that was to admit in open court that the Democratic party is a private organization not subject to any election rules. That they can at any time change the rules, drop a candidate later, whatever they want to do. That the primary system actually doesn't matter. And the votes don't matter either.

The judge accepted this. But in order to do so they DNC had to admit they rigged it. That is how they stopped having to pay back donations.

So yes it was proven in court.
Where does it say that the DNC admitted it? No nothing was proven in Court as the Judge dismissed the case.
You just make things up as you go along!!
 
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I don't just have two options. That's the point. In the first Doug Ford/Wynne/Horvath election I chose to decline my ballot. Because I didn't like any of them. I went to the station, requested to do that, and it was recorded as that.

In this case by different means I can do the equivalent. What you are saying is undemocratic by Forcing a person to only vote between two parties.
Again, I am NOT asking you to vote! I am asking you of the two who one will take the reigns of power over the next 4 years, which one is the better choice. MY QUESTION does not leave you a 3rd party option but again, you know you can't choose Trump and not look foolish and you cannot choose Kamala and then constantly attack her now that Biden has stepped away. You are so predictable I am surprised your SO hasn't caught your hooker ways. LOL
 

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Again, I am NOT asking you to vote! I am asking you of the two who one will take the reigns of power over the next 4 years, which one is the better choice. MY QUESTION does not leave you a 3rd party option but again, you know you can't choose Trump and not look foolish and you cannot choose Kamala and then constantly attack her now that Biden has stepped away. You are so predictable I am surprised your SO hasn't caught your hooker ways. LOL
Neither. I don't consider one better than the other. What part if that don't you comprehend? I think both parties(and it's really as much about parties when it comes to authorizing policy) will continue to place donors first. It's that simple.

And I take care of my shit at home. That's how. She is quite happy. Happy people aren't suspicious. Right now my computer sits open on a table. There isn't even porn on it.
 
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Once again they did not rig the primaries:

Opinion piece vs court facts. The DNC admitted in court they did. They are playing semantics.

Hillary Clinton paid off the DNC 10 million dollar debt, took over messaging. Joe Biden was told not to run, they put in a few token losers while she lined up the superdelegates before the primary. And despite this Bernie almost beat her.

She did this because she was beaten once by Obama and didn't want to chance it again. And still lost to Trump anyway.

And they haven't run a clean primary since.
 

Valcazar

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And the DNC ADMITTED IT AS WELL. Read the article. They had to to not have to return the donations. THEY HAVE BEEN PROVEN IN FEDERAL COURT. BY ADMISSION OF THE DEMOCRATIC PRTY.
LOL!

Oh man.
It's been how many years and you still don't understand this?

Amazing.

Except they admitted IN FEDERAL COURT THEY DID.

What part of that isn't proof?
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Valcazar

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Dude, Warren didn't get called into court. The DNC DID. And my links I provided several times above show they admitted it.


Here it is....again.
Holy shit HE KEEPS GOING!!

This is fantastic.

Do not see anywhere like you allege that The DNC admitted in Court to those allegations:
Because they didn't.

The lawsuit was rejected because they admitted it court they rigged it.

The whole point was that small donors put together a class action lawsuit to get their money back on the premise the DNC lied about the fair and open primary. The only way to stop that was to admit in open court that the Democratic party is a private organization not subject to any election rules. That they can at any time change the rules, drop a candidate later, whatever they want to do. That the primary system actually doesn't matter. And the votes don't matter either.

The judge accepted this. But in order to do so they DNC had to admit they rigged it. That is how they stopped having to pay back donations.

So yes it was proven in court.
How can you get this so wrong?
It's kind of amazing.

You're first two paragraphs are completely correct.
And then you just make shit up.
 

Valcazar

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Where does it say that the DNC admitted it?
It doesn't.
Butler has been misunderstanding this for 7 years or so now.

Did you read it?
Yes, he did.
That's why he keeps asking you the same question.

Opinion piece vs court facts. The DNC admitted in court they did.
You could try linking to the court case where they "admitted it".

After all, it was in a legal filing, so it should be right there for you to point to, instead of a piece by the New York Observer.
(You know, that paper that was owned and published by Jared Kushner and then his brother in law.)
 
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Valcazar

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I believe Butt is a staunch Conservative voter or be he eligible to vote in the US he would send in a mail-in ballot and vote for Trump but tell the folks around him how

" Trump is Trump. More chaos. Usual shit. More division "
Nah, I don't believe that.
He would be voting Ron Paul or write in or some other bit of posturing.

It might depend where he lived.
If he was in a swing state he might actually vote as if his vote mattered.
 
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It doesn't.
Butler has been misunderstanding this for 7 years or so now.



Yes, he did.
That's why he keeps asking you the same question.



You could try linking to the court case where they "admitted it".

After all, it was in a legal filing, so it should be right there for you to point to, instead of a piece by the New York Observer.
(You know, that paper that was owned and published by Jared Kushner and then his brother in law.)
That is the link. Go inform yourself.
 
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Holy shit HE KEEPS GOING!!

This is fantastic.



Because they didn't.



How can you get this so wrong?
It's kind of amazing.

You're first two paragraphs are completely correct.
And then you just make shit up.
Your gaslighting is profound.
 
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Neither. I don't consider one better than the other. What part if that don't you comprehend? I think both parties(and it's really as much about parties when it comes to authorizing policy) will continue to place donors first. It's that simple.

And I take care of my shit at home. That's how. She is quite happy. Happy people aren't suspicious. Right now my computer sits open on a table. There isn't even porn on it.
So if Trump wins you're cool with it and if Kamala wins, you're cool with it as long as you do not commit to one party but your whole life is committed to bashing the Democratic party regardless of who wins, OKAY, gotcha!

Hey, so since your laptop sits open on the table, I am going to assume you do not use it to scroll Terb. So, do you ensure the device be it your phone or your tablet will not fall into your partner's prying eyes? I'm just looking out for you because your SO will not accept your argument as it doesn't matter if you're on Terb, it has no relevance to any pay-for-play scenario. It is about the engaging political forum Honey where I can educate the Johns on how bad the Democratic party is.
 

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That is the link. Go inform yourself.
I have informed myself.
That you still misunderstand this court case after 7 years will never stop being funny.

I also note that claiming the Observer story "is the link" gives the game away.

There is a link to the decision in that story.
You could very easily go into the actual decision and pull up the part where they admit they rigged the primary.
Or - since it is a decision, you could go further and find the actual filings by the DNC and pull that part out for us.

If it was there.

Your gaslighting is profound.
I do like how "contradicting Butler's preferred delusions" is gaslighting now. :D

The fact you can't explain your fake version and just try to deflect it says it all.
I explained it ad nauseum back in the day, if I recall.
It was a motion to dismiss.
They told the judge that if you took everything Wilding claimed at face value, he would still have no case.
That isn't an admission that everything claimed happened.

I'll put it simply, with a made-up example.

Someone sues their neighbour for letting their cat out and it digging up your yard.
The neighbour's lawyer says "Even if we assume that they let the cat out, it wouldn't be illegal and they can' t be sued for that."

Butler goes, "See! They ADMITTED IN COURT they let the cat out!!!!"

People laugh at Butler.
 

Butler1000

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I have informed myself.
That you still misunderstand this court case after 7 years will never stop being funny.

I also note that claiming the Observer story "is the link" gives the game away.

There is a link to the decision in that story.
You could very easily go into the actual decision and pull up the part where they admit they rigged the primary.
Or - since it is a decision, you could go further and find the actual filings by the DNC and pull that part out for us.

If it was there.



I do like how "contradicting Butler's preferred delusions" is gaslighting now. :D



I explained it ad nauseum back in the day, if I recall.
It was a motion to dismiss.
They told the judge that if you took everything Wilding claimed at face value, he would still have no case.
That isn't an admission that everything claimed happened.

I'll put it simply, with a made-up example.

Someone sues their neighbour for letting their cat out and it digging up your yard.
The neighbour's lawyer says "Even if we assume that they let the cat out, it wouldn't be illegal and they can' t be sued for that."

Butler goes, "See! They ADMITTED IN COURT they let the cat out!!!!"

People laugh at Butler.
Oh man are you worried and obsessed people will realize the primaries are a sham.

Keep on gaslighting.
 
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So if Trump wins you're cool with it and if Kamala wins, you're cool with it as long as you do not commit to one party but your whole life is committed to bashing the Democratic party regardless of who wins, OKAY, gotcha!

Hey, so since your laptop sits open on the table, I am going to assume you do not use it to scroll Terb. So, do you ensure the device be it your phone or your tablet will not fall into your partner's prying eyes? I'm just looking out for you because your SO will not accept your argument as it doesn't matter if you're on Terb, it has no relevance to any pay-for-play scenario. It is about the engaging political forum Honey where I can educate the Johns on how bad the Democratic party is.
Lol. I don't have a suspicious SO.

So here is the thing. Who was the president the last 8 years had zero affect on my life. Literally zero. Even the pandemic because the response would have been the same. I continued to lead my life and it got better under Trump, and got better under Biden. Because there is nothing they do that can affect me. It got better because I make choices that make it better, adjusting as necessary

As for who the winner is.......either way I will go to Vegas once a year. Go amusement parking in Florida in 2026(Epic Universe Woohoo!), go to the Caribbean again. My career is unaffected. As is my SO's. Life is pretty damn good. I got nothing but first world problems.

So ya, I get to come on here, laugh at the partisans who don't see the Uniparty concencus policies of the Dems and GOP, taken in by the culture war distractions while they raid raid the coffers for the donors, and laugh. And watch you defend people who don't give a rat's ass about you because you don't give them money, or board positions.

Neither party in its present state is going to make the USA a better place.
 

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Lol. I don't have a suspicious SO.

So here is the thing. Who was the president the last 8 years had zero affect on my life. Literally zero. Even the pandemic because the response would have been the same. I continued to lead my life and it got better under Trump, and got better under Biden. Because there is nothing they do that can affect me. It got better because I make choices that make it better, adjusting as necessary

As for who the winner is.......either way I will go to Vegas once a year. Go amusement parking in Florida in 2026(Epic Universe Woohoo!), go to the Caribbean again. My career is unaffected. As is my SO's. Life is pretty damn good. I got nothing but first world problems.
Fair enough, I've had the same life minus the SO. Financially, I've done well regardless of party and I'll even go further back to Bush, Harper, etc...


So ya, I get to come on here, laugh at the partisans who don't see the Uniparty concencus policies of the Dems and GOP, taken in by the culture war distractions while they raid raid the coffers for the donors, and laugh. And watch you defend people who don't give a rat's ass about you because you don't give them money, or board positions.

Neither party in its present state is going to make the USA a better place.
Here is where I call you out as being FOS! You only attack one side, that is it. Sure, you say Trump is bad but that is where it stays. You only challenge folks on the left but never take on the righties when they spout off nonsense and bullshit but instead will challenge the poster challenging them. It's so obvious you are a right winger but pretend to be something else. At least admit it and state who and what you are except to your SO. I wouldn't want you hurt in your sleep, I do have a heart you know.
 
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Fair enough, I've had the same life minus the SO. Financially, I've done well regardless of party and I'll even go further back to Bush, Harper, etc...




Here is where I call you out as being FOS! You only attack one side, that is it. Sure, you say Trump is bad but that is where it stays. You only challenge folks on the left but never take on the righties when they spout off nonsense and bullshit but instead will challenge the poster challenging them. It's so obvious you are a right winger but pretend to be something else. At least admit it and state who and what you are except to your SO. I wouldn't want you hurt in your sleep, I do have a heart you know.
Because the GOP 1. Are so bad the idiocy is obvious, and 2. There are more then enough people going after Trump I don't need to be in that chorus.

But the Dems try to pass themselves off as the the bastions of progressives when they just are not. They are just as beholden to the donors. Rich, corporate donors, weapons manufacturing, silicon valley oligarchs, bankers, Wall St, you name it. Donors don't pay for ideology, they pay for access.

I just point that out, and show how little light there is between them.
 
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