Ford passed the legislation for ripping up the bike lanes TODAY!!

Leimonis

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I was out running errands throughout the downtown core both yesterday and today. I drove my car, as cycling wasn't practical and many of the roads I took had bike lanes. Since this thread has been on my mind, I was paying attention to the number of cyclists riding around. It was cool, above freezing and also dry both days.

What I noticed was just how few people were out cycling. On top of that, the vast majority of them were food delivery bikes. I would imagine the number of cyclists will continue to decline over the winter months, until things start to warm back up in the spring.

The good news is, just about every bikeshare station was completely full. Which confirms my observation, of just how few were cycling the past couple days.
Well, activists have been cycling
 
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shack

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I read your post, you argued that lack of transit is the problem.
I responded to that argument.
I was not that vague. I said that our Mickey Mouse subway system, in particular, is the problem. We need more subways to get as much stuff as possible (in whatever form, including bikes) off the streets.

Any major alternative to what we have now has to be comfortable and convenient to be effective, otherwise not enough people will buy in. Bicycles do not fit the bill.
 

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I was not that vague. I said that our Mickey Mouse subway system, in particular, is the problem. We need more subways to get as much stuff as possible (in whatever form, including bikes) off the streets.

Any major alternative to what we have now has to be comfortable and convenient to be effective, otherwise not enough people will buy in. Bicycles do not fit the bill.
Just because you're old and need a walker doesn't mean that biking isn't comfortable and convenient for others.
Its not for everyone, just people who can still use their bodies.
Otherwise its way more convenient than driving downtown, door to door, parking is easier, traffic is less of a pain, no waiting and you get in shape.
 

shack

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Just because you're old and need a walker doesn't mean that biking isn't comfortable and convenient for others.
Its not for everyone, just people who can still use their bodies.
Otherwise its way more convenient than driving downtown, door to door, parking is easier, traffic is less of a pain, no waiting and you get in shape.
You are out of touch with reality.

Have you noticed that in Toronto from November to March people do not want to be exposed to the elements? Unlike you, some people have to look respectable for work. Who wants to be dressed in a suit that they've sweated through after a 4 km. commute. Of course, who gives a shit about a mother dealing with an infant or toddler. Who is going to carry 4 bags of groceries (one week's worth for a family of 3, possibly) while biking, people who commute and on and on and on. Bike lanes benefit maybe 2% of the population of the GTA.

As well, you did not address the effectiveness of massively expanding our subway system. It is indisputable that removing as much detritus (in terms of traffic) from the surface roads to underground is the best solution. Costs should be a non-issue as the gridlock in the economic hub of the entire country ends out costing Canada, as a whole, way more than subways would in the long run. Hamas has done a better job of digging than Toronto has.

And thanks for showing that you have no respect for older people. You are an ageist. FYI, that's not an admirable quality. Do you have any?
 

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You are out of touch with reality.

Have you noticed that in Toronto from November to March people do not want to be exposed to the elements? Unlike you, some people have to look respectable for work. Who wants to be dressed in a suit that they've sweated through after a 4 km. commute. Of course, who gives a shit about a mother dealing with an infant or toddler. Who is going to carry 4 bags of groceries (one week's worth for a family of 3, possibly) while biking, people who commute and on and on and on. Bike lanes benefit maybe 2% of the population of the GTA.

As well, you did not address the effectiveness of massively expanding our subway system. It is indisputable that removing as much detritus (in terms of traffic) from the surface roads to underground is the best solution. Costs should be a non-issue as the gridlock in the economic hub of the entire country ends out costing Canada, as a whole, way more than subways would in the long run. Hamas has done a better job of digging than Toronto has.

And thanks for showing that you have no respect for older people. You are an ageist. FYI, that's not an admirable quality. Do you have any?
Lots of people take a change of clothes in paniers, its no big deal and you see them everywhere. Or you would if you went outside.
Same with bike seats, trailers, baskets, ebikes and other options for groceries. No big deal.

This isn't about forcing mothers with toddlers to bike, though lots do, this is about giving people a safe option to choose to bike.
Why do you want to force people to stop biking and start driving?

Its nothing new and its going on all over the world.

 

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Good one.

But I said that we need to dig and skyscrapers go in the opposite direction. They're "upfastructure".
My point was the only projects you see getting built now are condos. And they build them as close to the sidewalk as possible leaving no room to expand the roadways to add a bike path or should they build a LRT then the car lanes would have to be removed. They don't plan ahead.
 

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My point was the only projects you see getting built now are condos. And they build them as close to the sidewalk as possible leaving no room to expand the roadways to add a bike path or should they build a LRT then the car lanes would have to be removed. They don't plan ahead.
Not only that but the city is allowing construction projects to bloat into the street and take over lanes and sidewalks, making traffic much worse.
 
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Anbarandy

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We're talking about bike lanes in particular as it relates to traffic in Toronto. I'm talking about traffic in Toronto as a whole and I addressed bike lanes by saying they will not help the problem because Torontonians will only accept, en mass, a solution that is comfortable and convenient, and bikes are neither.

Chill out dude. Take a valium.
You're the voice of Toronto now?

When did this delusion of yours first manifest itself?
 

Anbarandy

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What this shows is you don't know Toronto and don't know the difference bike lanes make for driving speed.
You don't live here and don't know.

Why should your views count?
Of course he doesn't know Toronto as he is constantly getting stuck in motor vehicle caused congestion and gridlock every time he leaves the comfort of Carburbia and crosses the border into big, bad Toronto.

His views stop at the border.
 

Anbarandy

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I was not that vague. I said that our Mickey Mouse subway system, in particular, is the problem. We need more subways to get as much stuff as possible (in whatever form, including bikes) off the streets.

Any major alternative to what we have now has to be comfortable and convenient to be effective, otherwise not enough people will buy in. Bicycles do not fit the bill.
The voice of Toronto manifests itself again.
 

Frankfooter

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You make my point that bikes are not as comfortable or convenient as subways, let alone cars. The surface roads need less users. Bikes are not the solution.
You want fewer people on the roads?
Then argue for a congestion charge, elimination of parking and higher driving fees.
 

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You want fewer people on the roads?
Then argue for a congestion charge, elimination of parking and higher driving fees.
riding a bike is very dangerous for men

it puts too much pressure on your prostate

there is a warning that is you are going to do your PSA test you should avoid riding a bicycle because it will increase the PSA number

" Conclusions. According to the results of our study, cycling caused an average 9.5% increase in PSA, in healthy male cyclists over 50 years old, when measured within 5 minutes post cycling. This change is statistically and clinically significant. "

walk do not ride a bicycle !!!
 
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"What interferes with PSA test?


Many things can affect PSA levels including ejaculation, riding a bike, certain medical procedures involving the prostate and certain medicines or herbs. Your doctor will give you instructions for how to prepare for your PSA test. Certain drugs can lower PSA levels and affect your results."
 
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Of course he doesn't know Toronto as he is constantly getting stuck in motor vehicle caused congestion and gridlock every time he leaves the comfort of Carburbia and crosses the border into big, bad Toronto.

His views stop at the border.
Dude, I live at Dundas and Ossington and I usually walk or TTC to my court appearances. FFS!
 
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Anbarandy

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Dude, I live at Dundas and Ossington and I usually walk or TTC to my court appearances. FFS!
Dudette, I was referencing that bloke "I put use that my shit car on for everything', Dirk from Carburbia, in my post that has gotten your never seen a bike seat, panties all in a knot.

Well fiddle-de-deed Scarlett, you do declare.
 
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Frankfooter

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Dude, I live at Dundas and Ossington and I usually walk or TTC to my court appearances. FFS!
Then you really should know that bike lanes make no difference in the travel time between Dundas or College.
Dundas' lack of a bike lane does not make it any faster.
 

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riding a bike is very dangerous for men

it puts too much pressure on your prostate

there is a warning that is you are going to do your PSA test you should avoid riding a bicycle because it will increase the PSA number

" Conclusions. According to the results of our study, cycling caused an average 9.5% increase in PSA, in healthy male cyclists over 50 years old, when measured within 5 minutes post cycling. This change is statistically and clinically significant. "

walk do not ride a bicycle !!!
I don't think FF has to worry about that :ROFLMAO:
 
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