Ford passed the legislation for ripping up the bike lanes TODAY!!

[Anbarandy]

honestly what would help more than bike lanes would be an app that would give you a route via small streets. I'd rather be cycling on a small street, especially riding against traffic, than in a narrow lane sharing with delivery mopeds, dumbasses who cant ride etc.
I do use google maps for that but it doesn't have an option of avoiding big roads.

You could bike in lane on a main road if you choose to.

These main roads are shared use and not exclusive to motorized vehicles.

If push comes to shove the above will happen as routine with dedicated cyclists plus it's lawful too.

I fuckin hog a whole lane when dealing with dickhead drivers and this happens a lot.

 

[JuanGoodman]

to all pinko lefty women on this board that have testicles, save them and walk

do not ride bicycles, you will get testicle cancer from riding bikes

love Ford, finally we have an adult in the room

get rid of bike lanes with extreme prejudice

going to celebrate once the bike lanes are gone and drive my car up and down Bloor st all by myself

 

[JuanGoodman]

You could bike in lane on a main road if you choose to.

These main roads are shared use and not exclusive to motorized vehicles.

If push comes to shove the above will happen as routine with dedicated cyclists plus it's lawful too.

I fuckin hog a whole lane when dealing with dickhead drivers and this happens a lot.

hey Albundy soon you will need a bike license and insurance to ride your stupid bike on a street

Ford is working on that next

 

[shack]

Cyclists were a bigger threat to pedestrians than drivers ever were.

That statement is false and it's not even close. Fatalities from a bike are an extreme rarity.

BTW, I am against bike lanes.

 

[shack]

Yet crickets about the crosstown and Metrolinx. But yes... sure... bike lanes are the problem!

I'm ONLY in favour of this IF there is a $1000+ fine for people who will use the re-claimed lane to stop /pick up fares / "just run in quick" / deliver food and all other traffic snarling bullshit. Because ANYONE who's lived in this city long enough knows that the curb lanes on Bloor / Yonge / University were nothing more than glorified parking and delivery spaces.

All they need to do is install cameras.

 

[mandrill]

This:

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Leads to this:

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And no amount of this bullshit "faux war on the car" culture will ever solve the problem.

Except the "bottleneck" argument only occurs where bike lanes have removed a lane for cars - like College West of Bathurst.

The cars are not going away because there is no other realistic way to access to and from the burbs and exurbs. You never respond when I raise this.

 

[mandrill]

No, they fuckin didn't "used to have a meter or so". You don't cycle, I fuckin do. You battle other fuckin vehicles for every single square centimeter of paved fuckin tar, not cyclists.

It's not fuckin handful of elitists. Every fuckin council vote regarding traffic calming and safer streets, some of which include cycling lanes has been 22 in favor with just 3 against. Left, center and right pols. And most of the cycling lanes you see now were voted in by right-wing and center rightwing mayor and right-wing council majorities.

It's elitist.

You favour young, able people who both live and work downtown at the expense of everyone else.

 

[mandrill]

That's false. I challenge you to pass two cyclists riding abreast in a bike lane without exiting the bike lane, or crashing out. Often it's hard to pass one cyclist until there's a break in the cycle lane barrier. I know, as I've put 2,800kms on my bike and 300kms on Toronto Bike Share bikes this year.

Seriously, a lot of those bike lanes are FAT. The College St bike lane. The University Ave bike lane....

 

[mandrill]

More bullcrap. Most bike lanes are either single file or wide enough for 2 and to pass would need to venture onto the oncoming bike lane. Bike lanes are also used by joggers and mopeds.

Why do they even have to be 2 cyclists wide?

 

[mandrill]

Bullshit as usual.

List cyclist caused death, dismemberment, maiming, injuring of pedestrians.

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Those aren't even in Toronto.

 

[superstar_88]

How much space does a car/suv/van take up on the road compared to a bike.
Add that to most cars on the road I see are single occupancy.
Before they hired traffic directors on downtown corners plenty of cars were blocking the intersections, not bikes.

 

[JuanGoodman]

How much space does a car/suv/van take up on the road compared to a bike.
Add that to most cars on the road I see are single occupancy.
Before they hired traffic directors on downtown corners plenty of cars were blocking the intersections, not bikes.

car drivers pay for these roads through gas tax

bike riders pay nothing and yet they want to use the roads somebody else payed for

typical commie left

 

[Anbarandy]

It's elitist.

You favour young, able people who both live and work downtown at the expense of everyone else.

Hogwash.

I am well north of 60, live further west than you and commute to work by car in southwestern Etobicoke very close to the Mississauga border.

Many ages and demographic sectors cycle.

The difference between you and I apparently is that your cohorts are the crybaby elitists.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

honestly what would help more than bike lanes would simply be an app that would give you a route via small streets. I'd rather be cycling on a small street, especially riding against traffic, than in a narrow lane sharing with delivery mopeds, dumbasses who cant ride etc.
I do use google maps for that but it doesn't have an option of avoiding big roads.

With an app like that the need for bike lanes would practically disappear IMHO.

Waze is your friend.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

Good.
Out of control bike lanes in Toronto that are hardly used.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

These main roads are shared use and not exclusive to motorized vehicles.

Main roads are predominantly for automobiles.
Not bicycles.
Bicycles can use the smaller streets.

 

[JuanGoodman]

I am well north of 60, live further west than you and commute to work by car

I thought that you ride a bicycle to work

 

[Dutch Oven]

That statement is false and it's not even close. Fatalities from a bike are an extreme rarity.

BTW, I am against bike lanes.

There are more threats than just those that kill you. I visited Amsterdam for 10 days earlier this year. Amsterdam has extensive bicyclying lanes. In that short time I personally witnessed 3 pedestrians injured by bikes in 3 separate incidents, one requiring an ambulance. I saw no pedestrians injured by a car. In Toronto, where I have a much larger sample size of observation, the same has been true. Most cyclists don't follow the rules of the road (or sidewalk) and are not considerate of pedestrians. Anyone with the opportunity to observe cyclists in this city knows this is true.

 

[JuanGoodman]

There are more threats than just those that kill you. I visited Amsterdam for 10 days earlier this year. Amsterdam has extensive bicyclying lanes. In that short time I personally witnessed 3 pedestrians injured by bikes in 3 separate incidents, one requiring an ambulance. I saw no pedestrians injured by a car. In Toronto, where I have a much larger sample size of observation, the same has been true. Most cyclists don't follow the rules of the road (or sidewalk) and are not considerate of pedestrians. Anyone with the opportunity to observe cyclists in this city knows this is true.

cyclists do not know how to ride on the road because they do not have a drivers license

and they simply do not know the rules

 

[Dutch Oven]

Bullshit as usual.

List cyclist caused death, dismemberment, maiming, injuring of pedestrians.

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From your gallery, it looks like cyclists can be seriously harmed on the road if a cyclist or a motorist fails or refuses to follow the rules. More reason, not less, to keep bikes off major roads.

You know what else wouldn't be safe? Skateboarding down the DVP! However, the solution to that threat is to prevent skateboarding on roads, not to halve the capacity of roads to make them skateboarding friendly! Your thinking on this issue is backwards!