Ford passed the legislation for ripping up the bike lanes TODAY!!

[mandrill]

And every latte-sipping, pronoun-shaming leftie city pol and "consultant" is on Twitter being very, very angry right now.

And they realize that they can do absolutely fucking nothing to stop it. The tantrums and ranting are insane. I have already been blocked out of 10 or 12 Twitter accounts for laughing at them.

They're suggesting that they have a mass "Bike-In for Gaza" event and bring the city to a standstill to protest their own provincial government......

LONG LIVE THE AUTOMOBILE!!!!

 

[NotADcotor]

We got them in our small town. They are pretty much never ever used. Even on moderate temp non rainy days. Even worse, small town, you can go from edge to edge easily by bike.

I was in downtown Montreal, traffic blocked up real bad, rather warm but not excessively. Bike lanes also pretty much empty.

It was a retarded idea in the first place.

 

[Frankfooter]

And every latte-sipping, pronoun-shaming leftie city pol and "consultant" is on Twitter being very, very angry right now.

And they realize that they can do absolutely fucking nothing to stop it. The tantrums and ranting are insane. I have already been blocked out of 10 or 12 Twitter accounts for laughing at them.

They're suggesting that they have a mass "Bike-In for Gaza" event and bring the city to a standstill to protest their own provincial government......

LONG LIVE THE AUTOMOBILE!!!!

Fucking idiotic.

Ford is ripping up bike lanes for his drive from home to Queen's Park.
that's the only reason.

He wants to kill 37% of all traffic and force more people into cars.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1851950778136633372

 

[Anbarandy]

Don't worry, there all sorts of traffic calming measures that can be taken to make are roads safer for everyone, pedestrians, toddlers, infants, pets, cyclists, grandmamas and papas and yes even single vehicle occupancy humans.

Speed bumps, roundabouts, bump outs, stop signs, traffic lights, automated camera enforcement attached to streetcars, buses, intersections, poles, buildings, cyclist and especially e-bikes/scooters/ et al using a drive lane instead of being squeezed into a 6 inch slot between a vehicle and curb ......

 

[opieshuffle]

Yet crickets about the crosstown and Metrolinx. But yes... sure... bike lanes are the problem!

I'm ONLY in favour of this IF there is a $1000+ fine for people who will use the re-claimed lane to stop /pick up fares / "just run in quick" / deliver food and all other traffic snarling bullshit. Because ANYONE who's lived in this city long enough knows that the curb lanes on Bloor / Yonge / University were nothing more than glorified parking and delivery spaces.

 

[Anbarandy]

Yet crickets about the crosstown and Metrolinx. But yes... sure... bike lanes are the problem!

I'm ONLY in favour of this IF there is a $1000+ fine for people who will use the re-claimed lane to stop /pick up fares / "just run in quick" / deliver food and all other traffic snarling bullshit. Because ANYONE who's lived in this city long enough knows that the curb lanes on Bloor / Yonge / University were nothing more than glorified parking and delivery spaces.

Exactly.

Rampant with abuse, no stopping and parking signs are irrelevant to those who do this.

 

[shack]

They're suggesting that they have a mass "Bike-In for Gaza" event and bring the city to a standstill

That's a triple losing suggestion.

People hate:

Terrorism
Bike lanes
Being stuck in traffic.

 

[Dutch Oven]

Don't worry, there all sorts of traffic calming measures that can be taken to make are roads safer for everyone, pedestrians, toddlers, infants, pets, cyclists, grandmamas and papas and yes even single vehicle occupancy humans.

Speed bumps, roundabouts, bump outs, stop signs, traffic lights, automated camera enforcement attached to streetcars, buses, intersections, poles, buildings, cyclist and especially e-bikes/scooters/ et al using a drive lane instead of being squeezed into a 6 inch slot between a vehicle and curb ......

Cyclists were a bigger threat to pedestrians than drivers ever were. At least most drivers follow the rules most of the time.

Hopefully we will now look for measures to get rid of bikes off designated major roads altogether.

 

[mandrill]

Yet crickets about the crosstown and Metrolinx. But yes... sure... bike lanes are the problem!

I'm ONLY in favour of this IF there is a $1000+ fine for people who will use the re-claimed lane to stop /pick up fares / "just run in quick" / deliver food and all other traffic snarling bullshit. Because ANYONE who's lived in this city long enough knows that the curb lanes on Bloor / Yonge / University were nothing more than glorified parking and delivery spaces.

Part of city life.

My sister visited last Xmas and tried to drop off my 98 year old mother at a medical appointment on Eglinton east of Yonge. Impossible to do that because of the bike lane and she had to bring my mom home. My mom is mobility assisted and cannot get around by herself.

The bike lanes make it far more difficult for the aged to get around.

 

[Dutch Oven]

Exactly.

Rampant with abuse, no stopping and parking signs are irrelevant to those who do this.

Agreed. The city needs to clamp down on all the causes of traffic snarling, not just bike lanes.

 

[mandrill]

Yet crickets about the crosstown and Metrolinx. But yes... sure... bike lanes are the problem!

I'm ONLY in favour of this IF there is a $1000+ fine for people who will use the re-claimed lane to stop /pick up fares / "just run in quick" / deliver food and all other traffic snarling bullshit. Because ANYONE who's lived in this city long enough knows that the curb lanes on Bloor / Yonge / University were nothing more than glorified parking and delivery spaces.

The logical flaw is that failure on 1 transportation issue is failure on all of them. We all think the crosstown is a fuck-up - although much of the fuckedness likely pre dates Ford. But that doesn't mean that the bike lanes aren't an awful fuck-up as well.

Hopefully they both get fixed.

 

[mandrill]

Don't worry, there all sorts of traffic calming measures that can be taken to make are roads safer for everyone, pedestrians, toddlers, infants, pets, cyclists, grandmamas and papas and yes even single vehicle occupancy humans.

Speed bumps, roundabouts, bump outs, stop signs, traffic lights, automated camera enforcement attached to streetcars, buses, intersections, poles, buildings, cyclist and especially e-bikes/scooters/ et al using a drive lane instead of being squeezed into a 6 inch slot between a vehicle and curb ......

Except cyclists used to have a metre or so between the cars and the curb and got around just fine.

Are the exclusive, grandiose, pyloned-off bike lanes a better solution for cyclists?.... Sure.

But they subtract a car lane.

If the city made the bike lanes narrow, it would be something. But every bike lane I have seen is wide enough to accommodate 3 cyclists riding side by side. The city didn't have to make them so big and so elaborate and that might have been a decent compromise solution.

We all know what's really happening. Every leftie city pol and "cycling advocate" also talks about "banning cars from cities" and "making all downtown streets into pedestrian malls and greenspaces". One of the accounts that I got fed by the algorithm had some city pol ranting about how part of downtown Madrid was made into a greenspace by leftie city pols without proper planning permission and how evil it was that a judge nullified the greenspace ordinance as being improper.

This is a handful of entitled elitists who live and work downtown conniving against ordinary working people who have jobs or family appointments out in the burbs and need cars.

 

[Leimonis]

Don't worry, there all sorts of traffic calming measures that can be taken to make are roads safer for everyone, pedestrians, toddlers, infants, pets, cyclists, grandmamas and papas and yes even single vehicle occupancy humans.

Speed bumps, roundabouts, bump outs, stop signs, traffic lights, automated camera enforcement attached to streetcars, buses, intersections, poles, buildings, cyclist and especially e-bikes/scooters/ et al using a drive lane instead of being squeezed into a 6 inch slot between a vehicle and curb ......

Traffic calming? I’d like to see traffic disturbing then. Whatever makes traffic go faster really

 

[Anbarandy]

Cyclists were a bigger threat to pedestrians than drivers ever were. At least most drivers follow the rules most of the time.

Hopefully we will now look for measures to get rid of bikes off designated major roads altogether.

Bullshit as usual.

List cyclist caused death, dismemberment, maiming, injuring of pedestrians.

 

[Anbarandy]

Part of city life.

My sister visited last Xmas and tried to drop off my 98 year old mother at a medical appointment on Eglinton east of Yonge. Impossible to do that because of the bike lane and she had to bring my mom home. My mom is mobility assisted and cannot get around by herself.

The bike lanes make it far more difficult for the aged to get around.

Bullshit as usual again.

 

[superstar_88]

But every bike lane I have seen is wide enough to accommodate 3 cyclists riding side by side.

More bullcrap. Most bike lanes are either single file or wide enough for 2 and to pass would need to venture onto the oncoming bike lane. Bike lanes are also used by joggers and mopeds.

 

[Anbarandy]

The logical flaw is that failure on 1 transportation issue is failure on all of them. We all think the crosstown is a fuck-up - although much of the fuckedness likely pre dates Ford. But that doesn't mean that the bike lanes aren't an awful fuck-up as well.

Hopefully they both get fixed.

This:



Leads to this:





And no amount of this bullshit "faux war on the car" culture will ever solve the problem.

 

[ramblin]

But every bike lane I have seen is wide enough to accommodate 3 cyclists riding side by side. The city didn't have to make them so big and so elaborate and that might have been a decent compromise solution.

That's false. I challenge you to pass two cyclists riding abreast in a bike lane without exiting the bike lane, or crashing out. Often it's hard to pass one cyclist until there's a break in the cycle lane barrier. I know, as I've put 2,800kms on my bike and 300kms on Toronto Bike Share bikes this year.

 

[Anbarandy]

Except cyclists used to have a metre or so between the cars and the curb and got around just fine.

Are the exclusive, grandiose, pyloned-off bike lanes a better solution for cyclists?.... Sure.

But they subtract a car lane.

If the city made the bike lanes narrow, it would be something. But every bike lane I have seen is wide enough to accommodate 3 cyclists riding side by side. The city didn't have to make them so big and so elaborate and that might have been a decent compromise solution.

We all know what's really happening. Every leftie city pol and "cycling advocate" also talks about "banning cars from cities" and "making all downtown streets into pedestrian malls and greenspaces". One of the accounts that I got fed by the algorithm had some city pol ranting about how part of downtown Madrid was made into a greenspace by leftie city pols without proper planning permission and how evil it was that a judge nullified the greenspace ordinance as being improper.

This is a handful of entitled elitists who live and work downtown conniving against ordinary working people who have jobs or family appointments out in the burbs and need cars.

No, they fuckin didn't "used to have a meter or so". You don't cycle, I fuckin do. You battle other fuckin vehicles for every single square centimeter of paved fuckin tar, not cyclists.

It's not fuckin handful of elitists. Every fuckin council vote regarding traffic calming and safer streets, some of which include cycling lanes has been 22 in favor with just 3 against. Left, center and right pols. And most of the cycling lanes you see now were voted in by right-wing and center rightwing mayor and right-wing council majorities.

 

[Leimonis]

honestly what would help more than bike lanes would simply be an app that would give you a route via small streets. I'd rather be cycling on a small street, especially riding against traffic, than in a narrow lane sharing with delivery mopeds, dumbasses who cant ride etc.
I do use google maps for that but it doesn't have an option of avoiding big roads.

With an app like that the need for bike lanes would practically disappear IMHO.